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Impacts of Our 2017 Draft on Our 53-man Roster

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  • @gumby73 said:

    Awesome..Football talk nutz & botz is back^^

    What in the actual fuck does that even mean?

    Some of you need to get the idea of Danny being let go out of your head. Regardless of what your preconceived ideas of 34/43 should be, he will fill the classic 0/1 tech role under coach Williams in a similar manner

    that he has previously. Only now he'll be 1-gapping 90% of the time. He may lose another 5lbs or so so he can check in around 325-330, but he's a probowl caliber interior run defender. In the AFCN when the elements

    can turn on you starting in November, that type of presence to slow a teams running game becomes that much more important. You still need someone to hold their ground against double teams in this defense the same as before.

    That man is Danny Shelton.

    Don't believe me? Please refer to Snacks Harrison for the Gmen as your dose of truth.

    gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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    @tiamat63 said:

    What in the actual fuck does that even mean?

    Lighten up Brutus Ninja with a half Buckeye Shell 😉 It's a compliment that a poster can actually determine a position players technique to a T. Glad your here.maybe I'll try back in 3 more years..Your stuff got Adoree Jackson gone by round 1... EDIT---Tour all I got on our OL for now is the answer to--Ca Ka meal Erving---If this new Magic Card Dealer OL Coach can't deal a Joker on this Guy...it's 😡

  • @cainedesoulis said:

    Actually sorry i am wrong he only keeps 8-9 DL and 6 LB

    Feels more typical... but still a little high for the 53... especially for a 4-man DL. Somewhere you'd like to double up who a backup is backing up. and get by with 7. LBs get the advantage of being needed on S/Ts.

    @mld-woody said:

    And now one of those 5s is a hybrid that might allow us to do more 4-3 stuff without subs. Like how he was used in College

    Downside? If he's injured, then he requires two backups. Or if there's an injury to one of his position-mates, his utilization can be restricted.

    @wargograw said:

    What's Danny's value if we just got picks for him?

    Good question... coming off a coming out season including a pro bowl? Maybe a 2nd and change with one or both "conditional"?

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    @tour2ma said:

    Feels more typical... but still a little high for the 53... especially for a 4-man DL. Somewhere you'd like to double up who a backup is backing up. and get by with 7. LBs get the advantage of being needed on S/Ts.

    Downside? If he's injured, then he requires two backups. Or if there's an injury to one of his position-mates, his utilization can be restricted.

    Good question... coming off a coming out season including a pro bowl? Maybe a 2nd and change with one or both "conditional"?

    That's pretty crazy for a guy who was picked 10th and is young.

  • Moving on to our next log jam... The OL...

    We now have 15 OL on our roster (plus a UDFA or two now). At most we keep 9 on the 53. Starters look to be:

    Thomas - Bito - Tretter - Zeitler - Coleman

    "Safe" backups look to be:

    • OT - Johnson
    • OG/C - Greco & Fabs(?)
    • Swing - Drango (w/ Greco on deck)

    PS eligible (less than three accrued seasons & six active games) candidates include:

    Fabs (1&4), Reiter (1&1), Sterup (1&0), UDFAs (0&0)...

    Too much tape on Fabs; roll the dice on Rieter?; Sterup looks like a safe stash as should be a UDFA or two

    Not PS eligible:

    Ikard (3&6), Erving, Martin, McCants ... buh-bye?

    That's 15... pot's right... deal.

    W wargograw wrote on last edited by
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    @tour2ma said:

    Moving on to our next log jam... The OL...

    We now have 15 OL on our roster (plus a UDFA or two now). At most we keep 9 on the 53. Starters look to be:

    Thomas - Bito - Tretter - Zeitler - Coleman

    "Safe" backups look to be:

    • OT - Johnson
    • OG/C - Greco & Fabs(?)
    • Swing - Drango (w/ Greco on deck)

    PS eligible (less than three accrued seasons & six active games) candidates include:

    Fabs (1&4), Reiter (1&1), Sterup (1&0), UDFAs (0&0)...

    Too much tape on Fabs; roll the dice on Rieter?; Sterup looks like a safe stash as should be a UDFA or two

    Not PS eligible:

    Ikard (3&6), Erving, Martin, McCants ... buh-bye?

    That's 15... pot's right... deal.

    I wonder if Greco can beat out Tretter. That's a pretty good player to have riding pine.

    As for the numbers here, I'd say it's your starting 5, Johnson, Greco, Drango, Reiter.

  • @gumby73 said:

    Awesome..Football talk nutz & botz is back^^

    What in the actual fuck does that even mean?

    Some of you need to get the idea of Danny being let go out of your head. Regardless of what your preconceived ideas of 34/43 should be, he will fill the classic 0/1 tech role under coach Williams in a similar manner

    that he has previously. Only now he'll be 1-gapping 90% of the time. He may lose another 5lbs or so so he can check in around 325-330, but he's a probowl caliber interior run defender. In the AFCN when the elements

    can turn on you starting in November, that type of presence to slow a teams running game becomes that much more important. You still need someone to hold their ground against double teams in this defense the same as before.

    That man is Danny Shelton.

    Don't believe me? Please refer to Snacks Harrison for the Gmen as your dose of truth.

    W wargograw wrote on last edited by
    #30

    @tiamat63 said:

    What in the actual fuck does that even mean?

    Football nuts and bolts talk is back. As in actual football talk rather than just draft talk.

    Yes, I polished my Gumby decoder this morning. We have a poster on my A&M board who types just as poorly but is a football savant, so I'm used to it.

  • @gumby73 said:

    Awesome..Football talk nutz & botz is back^^

    What in the actual fuck does that even mean?

    Some of you need to get the idea of Danny being let go out of your head. Regardless of what your preconceived ideas of 34/43 should be, he will fill the classic 0/1 tech role under coach Williams in a similar manner

    that he has previously. Only now he'll be 1-gapping 90% of the time. He may lose another 5lbs or so so he can check in around 325-330, but he's a probowl caliber interior run defender. In the AFCN when the elements

    can turn on you starting in November, that type of presence to slow a teams running game becomes that much more important. You still need someone to hold their ground against double teams in this defense the same as before.

    That man is Danny Shelton.

    Don't believe me? Please refer to Snacks Harrison for the Gmen as your dose of truth.

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    @tiamat63 said:

    What in the actual fuck does that even mean?

    YIKES! He was giving you props for talking football........ Tough room.

  • @tour2ma said:

    Moving on to our next log jam... The OL...

    We now have 15 OL on our roster (plus a UDFA or two now). At most we keep 9 on the 53. Starters look to be:

    Thomas - Bito - Tretter - Zeitler - Coleman

    "Safe" backups look to be:

    • OT - Johnson
    • OG/C - Greco & Fabs(?)
    • Swing - Drango (w/ Greco on deck)

    PS eligible (less than three accrued seasons & six active games) candidates include:

    Fabs (1&4), Reiter (1&1), Sterup (1&0), UDFAs (0&0)...

    Too much tape on Fabs; roll the dice on Rieter?; Sterup looks like a safe stash as should be a UDFA or two

    Not PS eligible:

    Ikard (3&6), Erving, Martin, McCants ... buh-bye?

    That's 15... pot's right... deal.

    I wonder if Greco can beat out Tretter. That's a pretty good player to have riding pine.

    As for the numbers here, I'd say it's your starting 5, Johnson, Greco, Drango, Reiter.

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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    @wargograw said:

    I wonder if Greco can beat out Tretter. That's a pretty good player to have riding pine.

    As for the numbers here, I'd say it's your starting 5, Johnson, Greco, Drango, Reiter.

    Can't see John winning a starting role from where we are. TBH can't even be sure he makes the team given his Lizzie. But if he recovers well enough to regain 90% of his form, then his dual backup capability should keep him around. Of course, if he's not recovered and goes PUP... that ain't bad either.

    Fabs vs. Reiter... interesting problem. I only went Fabs because he has more tape on him making it easier for a claim off our PS.

    @wargograw said:

    Football nuts and bolts talk is back. As in actual football talk rather than just draft talk.

    Yes, I polished my Gumby decoder this morning. We have a poster on my A&M board who types just as poorly but is a football savant, so I'm used to it.

    And it is worth polishing... there be gems in them thar jumbles...

    Plus when mine fails, which it occasionally does, I just furrow my brow, scratch my nutz and boltz, and chuckle...

  • @tiamat63 said:

    What in the actual fuck does that even mean?

    Lighten up Brutus Ninja with a half Buckeye Shell 😉 It's a compliment that a poster can actually determine a position players technique to a T. Glad your here.maybe I'll try back in 3 more years..Your stuff got Adoree Jackson gone by round 1... EDIT---Tour all I got on our OL for now is the answer to--Ca Ka meal Erving---If this new Magic Card Dealer OL Coach can't deal a Joker on this Guy...it's 😡

    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
    #33

    @gumby73 said:

    Lighten up Brutus Ninja with a half Buckeye Shell 😉 It's a compliment that a poster can actually determine a position players technique to a T. Glad your here.maybe I'll try back in 3 more years..Your stuff got Adoree Jackson gone by round 1... EDIT---Tour all I got on our OL for now is the answer to--Ca Ka meal Erving---If this new Magic Card Dealer OL Coach can't deal a Joker on this Guy...it's 😡

    Forgive me if my tone sounded short. It wasn't, I was genuinely confused and I love that phrase.

    Having said that, I appreciate the kind words. I don't think I got

    Jackson drafted that high. I called him high 2nd fringe first with world's of potential. Similar to how fond I was of Orchard.

    Adoree is raw with his feet and hands, but he was drafted that high for what he can be - not what he is.

    Good to return to football talk and not draft talk, by the way.

  • @gumby73 said:

    Lighten up Brutus Ninja with a half Buckeye Shell 😉 It's a compliment that a poster can actually determine a position players technique to a T. Glad your here.maybe I'll try back in 3 more years..Your stuff got Adoree Jackson gone by round 1... EDIT---Tour all I got on our OL for now is the answer to--Ca Ka meal Erving---If this new Magic Card Dealer OL Coach can't deal a Joker on this Guy...it's 😡

    Forgive me if my tone sounded short. It wasn't, I was genuinely confused and I love that phrase.

    Having said that, I appreciate the kind words. I don't think I got

    Jackson drafted that high. I called him high 2nd fringe first with world's of potential. Similar to how fond I was of Orchard.

    Adoree is raw with his feet and hands, but he was drafted that high for what he can be - not what he is.

    Good to return to football talk and not draft talk, by the way.

    gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
    #34

    @tiamat63 said:

    Forgive me if my tone sounded short. It wasn't, I was genuinely confused and I love that phrase.

    Having said that, I appreciate the kind words. I don't think I got

    Jackson drafted that high. I called him high 2nd fringe first with world's of potential. Similar to how fond I was of Orchard.

    Adoree is raw with his feet and hands, but he was drafted that high for what he can be - not what he is.

    Good to return to football talk and not draft talk, by the way.

    Tia-Man forgiven..were all not browns fans without some frustration..some just suck wording it. than suck typing it. than Cajun Bobby Bushe' says "hell hit the enter button"..That's Me! Woof On

  • OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
    #35

    Fabiano replaced Joe Thomas in the first pre season game and played solidly. He became, "My Man". Except....any time he played after that I thought he stunk. It will be interesting to see if he improves......and to see if that Rieter guy is really as good as we thought, before he got hurt in his only game for us.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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    Certainly there was a reason Reiter got that start over Fabs, but when Fabs had to step in, I thought he did a nice job as well.