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  • I guess what I'm asking is how do we define interfering with our election? Is any kind of dirty campaign trick and interference into the pier and honest democracy some people believe exists?

    For instance, and allow me to use this semi facetious hypothetical, a mayoral candidate lives next to me and beats his wife. I set up my video camera from a hidden location take some footage and released that footage on YouTube.

    Let's also say I've informed his opponent about this.

    I'm assuming there are regulations against filming the inside of someone's home without their permission.

    Let's say she has consistently refused to press charges. Am I interfering with the electoral process at that point?

    WSS

  • Of course by trump hater I mean those who actually hate the guy, those who are opposed to his presidency, and those that just bitter about him because they think it makes them sound cool or they like to fuck with Cal.

    ?

    WSS

  • lol... fucking with cal is just a fringe benefit...

    Back in a moment with a reply to the rest...

  • PSI do realize that the next door neighbor with the video camera is not a true metaphor but you get the idea...

    WSS

  • OK... back....

    Not sure your hypothetical helped, but there are certainly invasion of privacy laws. No expertise here, but I recall a story about a writer that rented a two-story home in Alaska next to one rented by Sarah Palin. From a deck off the 2nd floor of the home he rented he could see into Palin's backyard and had set up video and still-shot cameras. She sought legal remedy to ban his "invasion", but was rebuffed, so she built a 16' fence as needed to block his vantage point.

    So assuming you did nothing that enabled you to record that which would be in public view from your property, then I believe you'd be legally "safe" in recording a "normal" interaction between your neighbors. And, IMO, it would not be a "dirty trick".

    On the other hand... hiring a hooker, let's say a Rebecca De Mornay look-alike, to "mistakenly" knock on his door and then recording nature taking its course would be.

    Once recorded then what you did with the "tape" could turn less innocent, e.g., if it used by you, or others to whom you provided the recording, to coerce the candidate into withdrawal from your fictitious race, a/k/a "blackmail". But it's outright release, compensated or not? Fair game as best I can tell.

    I'll extend the exercise one more step and ask you... If a third neighbor sees what you are doing, i.e., recording your neighbor, should they tell the neighbor that you are surveilling?

    Now back to the 2016 Campaign... It was on 10/07/16 that DHS posted the following:

    The U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of e-mails from US persons and institutions, including from US political organizations. The recent disclosures of alleged hacked e-mails on sites like DCLeaks.com and WikiLeaks and by the Guccifer 2.0 online persona are consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts. These thefts and disclosures are intended to interfere with the US election process. Such activity is not new to Moscow—the Russians have used similar tactics and techniques across Europe and Eurasia, for example, to influence public opinion there. We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities.

    https://www.dhs.gov/news/2016/10/07/joint-statement-department-homeland-security-and-office-director-national

    This was not a leak. This was a finding and a public warning to states to be extra vigilant in safeguarding their election processes. Such information, five-weeks before the election had to be disseminated and any attempt to keep it "quiet" would have been futile given the width and breathe of its distribution.

    Once publicized its use by any parties becomes "fair game". While release of the joint statement does not retroactively render any related leaks that preceded it "lawful", it would, I imagine, reduce the priority of their investigation.

  • PSI do realize that the next door neighbor with the video camera is not a true metaphor but you get the idea...

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    PSI do realize that the next door neighbor with the video camera is not a true metaphor but you get the idea...

    WSS

    Aw man... I was starting to look forward to seeing the naughty outtakes of your video between sets...

  • @westside-steve said:

    PSI do realize that the next door neighbor with the video camera is not a true metaphor but you get the idea...

    WSS

    Aw man... I was starting to look forward to seeing the naughty outtakes of your video between sets...

    @tour2ma said:

    Aw man... I was starting to look forward to seeing the naughty outtakes of your video between sets...

    Haha we're friends you can have a private show.

    ?

    PS when in June are you coming up and for how long?

    WSS

  • wait. wth was that? Sarah Palin's backyard was pass-protected? and the russians stole her

    backyard backdoor password?

    Hacking goes on all the time. But this nonsense narrative is just pouty, enraged

    sour grapes to the doofacrat progressives/commies/sociailist snowflake sombeitches' side.

  • @tour2ma said:

    Aw man... I was starting to look forward to seeing the naughty outtakes of your video between sets...

    Haha we're friends you can have a private show.

    ?

    PS when in June are you coming up and for how long?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Haha we're friends you can have a private show. PS when in June are you coming up and for how long?

    I plan to roll thru sometime in the 2nd week. Would you PM me the link to you once posted to your schedule? I've lost track of where it is...

  • Steve, if Tour comes into town, can you bring him down to our farm? I'd

    like to take him out to shoot some groundhog skeet with me.........

  • @westside-steve said:

    Haha we're friends you can have a private show. PS when in June are you coming up and for how long?

    I plan to roll thru sometime in the 2nd week. Would you PM me the link to you once posted to your schedule? I've lost track of where it is...

    @tour2ma said:

    I plan to roll thru sometime in the 2nd week. Would you PM me the link to you once posted to your schedule? I've lost track of where it is...

    No need for privacy amigo.

    www.westsidesteve.com

    Also Facebook Westside Steve Simmons.

    My regular Facebook page is Steve W Simmons. 2nd week of June I am playing on Wednesday at the on tap in Medina and Friday Saturday and Sunday at the Riverfront Irish festival in Cuyahoga Falls.

    Many times after my set at the Irish festival we gather at some establishment to hoist a pint or 2. Of the barley and hop or even the root variety.

    WSS

  • @tour2ma said:

    I plan to roll thru sometime in the 2nd week. Would you PM me the link to you once posted to your schedule? I've lost track of where it is...

    No need for privacy amigo.

    www.westsidesteve.com

    Also Facebook Westside Steve Simmons.

    My regular Facebook page is Steve W Simmons. 2nd week of June I am playing on Wednesday at the on tap in Medina and Friday Saturday and Sunday at the Riverfront Irish festival in Cuyahoga Falls.

    Many times after my set at the Irish festival we gather at some establishment to hoist a pint or 2. Of the barley and hop or even the root variety.

    WSS

    Yeah... I'm not feeling the need to farm this trip...

    @westside-steve said:

    No need for privacy amigo.

    www.westsidesteve.com

    Also Facebook Westside Steve Simmons.
    My regular Facebook page is Steve W Simmons. 2nd week of June I am playing on Wednesday at the on tap in Medina and Friday Saturday and Sunday at the Riverfront Irish festival in Cuyahoga Falls.
    Many times after my set at the Irish festival we gather at some establishment to hoist a pint or 2. Of the barley and hop or even the root variety.
    WSS

    lol... privacy was not the issue... retrieval was... FYI your inbox seems to be full.

    Anywho... copy/paste into notepad done...

  • Yeah... I'm not feeling the need to farm this trip...

    @westside-steve said:

    No need for privacy amigo.

    www.westsidesteve.com

    Also Facebook Westside Steve Simmons.
    My regular Facebook page is Steve W Simmons. 2nd week of June I am playing on Wednesday at the on tap in Medina and Friday Saturday and Sunday at the Riverfront Irish festival in Cuyahoga Falls.
    Many times after my set at the Irish festival we gather at some establishment to hoist a pint or 2. Of the barley and hop or even the root variety.
    WSS

    lol... privacy was not the issue... retrieval was... FYI your inbox seems to be full.

    Anywho... copy/paste into notepad done...

    @tour2ma said:

    Yeah... I'm not feeling the need to farm this trip...

    lol... privacy was not the issue... retrieval was... FYI your inbox seems to be full.

    Anywho... copy/paste into notepad done...

    Yes for some reason I can't delete private messages. Maybe I have to do it on the laptop. I still like the message but there is no delete option underneath it.

    If you are on Facebook you can send me a message And I think there's a contact me on my website.

    WSS

  • @tour2ma said:

    Yeah... I'm not feeling the need to farm this trip...

    lol... privacy was not the issue... retrieval was... FYI your inbox seems to be full.

    Anywho... copy/paste into notepad done...

    Yes for some reason I can't delete private messages. Maybe I have to do it on the laptop. I still like the message but there is no delete option underneath it.

    If you are on Facebook you can send me a message And I think there's a contact me on my website.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Yes for some reason I can't delete private messages. Maybe I have to do it on the laptop. I still like the message but there is no delete option underneath it.

    If you are on Facebook you can send me a message And I think there's a contact me on my website.

    Really not a fan of the facebook, but I have an account... and am even willing to "friend" you...

  • @westside-steve said:

    Yes for some reason I can't delete private messages. Maybe I have to do it on the laptop. I still like the message but there is no delete option underneath it.

    If you are on Facebook you can send me a message And I think there's a contact me on my website.

    Really not a fan of the facebook, but I have an account... and am even willing to "friend" you...

    @tour2ma said:

    Really not a fan of the facebook, but I have an account... and am even willing to "friend" you...

    Just the easiest way to update my schedule quickly. You know weather changes and stuff up at put in Bay.

    WSS

  • Actually I don't... have never been to Put-in Bay... but I've likely seen it from the top of any one of many Cedar point Attractions.

    I am way overdue for CP visit...

  • I mean, don't get your expectations too high on put in Bay. But it's a fun trip.

  • Frankly I probably wouldn't visit there if I hadn't been working there for all these years. Depends what you enjoy doing with your leisure time I guess. People ask me if I go out after my gig and see other entertainers and I very rarely do. No disrespect but I don't want to hear a bunch of guys playing the same shit i play. 😉

    What if you like that kind of stuff there's plenty of it. We do have a microbrew which isn't great but......

    A lot of restaurants none of which are chains.

    WSS

  • Hold the phone...Irish fest?

    I'm all about that.

  • The more his presidency goes along the more I like it. He convinced the people he has good christian morals, married three times. He convinced people he's a fantastic businessman, failed casino and restructured debt. He convinced people he supports the conservative agenda, registered democrat longer than republican and contributed to democratic campaigns. He convinced people he will support American jobs, outsourced the manufacturing of many products that bear his name and used foreign building materials in construction. The only thing missing is he's not a Catholic who protested Vietnam while driving a woman to an abortion appointment.