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  • Tour2ma Tour2maT In Memoriam Dedicated Conversation Starter Reacting Well Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done Very Popular
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    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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    OK... back....

    Not sure your hypothetical helped, but there are certainly invasion of privacy laws. No expertise here, but I recall a story about a writer that rented a two-story home in Alaska next to one rented by Sarah Palin. From a deck off the 2nd floor of the home he rented he could see into Palin's backyard and had set up video and still-shot cameras. She sought legal remedy to ban his "invasion", but was rebuffed, so she built a 16' fence as needed to block his vantage point.

    So assuming you did nothing that enabled you to record that which would be in public view from your property, then I believe you'd be legally "safe" in recording a "normal" interaction between your neighbors. And, IMO, it would not be a "dirty trick".

    On the other hand... hiring a hooker, let's say a Rebecca De Mornay look-alike, to "mistakenly" knock on his door and then recording nature taking its course would be.

    Once recorded then what you did with the "tape" could turn less innocent, e.g., if it used by you, or others to whom you provided the recording, to coerce the candidate into withdrawal from your fictitious race, a/k/a "blackmail". But it's outright release, compensated or not? Fair game as best I can tell.

    I'll extend the exercise one more step and ask you... If a third neighbor sees what you are doing, i.e., recording your neighbor, should they tell the neighbor that you are surveilling?

    Now back to the 2016 Campaign... It was on 10/07/16 that DHS posted the following:

    The U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of e-mails from US persons and institutions, including from US political organizations. The recent disclosures of alleged hacked e-mails on sites like DCLeaks.com and WikiLeaks and by the Guccifer 2.0 online persona are consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts. These thefts and disclosures are intended to interfere with the US election process. Such activity is not new to Moscow—the Russians have used similar tactics and techniques across Europe and Eurasia, for example, to influence public opinion there. We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities.

    https://www.dhs.gov/news/2016/10/07/joint-statement-department-homeland-security-and-office-director-national

    This was not a leak. This was a finding and a public warning to states to be extra vigilant in safeguarding their election processes. Such information, five-weeks before the election had to be disseminated and any attempt to keep it "quiet" would have been futile given the width and breathe of its distribution.

    Once publicized its use by any parties becomes "fair game". While release of the joint statement does not retroactively render any related leaks that preceded it "lawful", it would, I imagine, reduce the priority of their investigation.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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      PSI do realize that the next door neighbor with the video camera is not a true metaphor but you get the idea...

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      Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
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      @westside-steve said:

      PSI do realize that the next door neighbor with the video camera is not a true metaphor but you get the idea...

      WSS

      Aw man... I was starting to look forward to seeing the naughty outtakes of your video between sets...

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        @westside-steve said:

        PSI do realize that the next door neighbor with the video camera is not a true metaphor but you get the idea...

        WSS

        Aw man... I was starting to look forward to seeing the naughty outtakes of your video between sets...

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        W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by Westside Steve
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        @tour2ma said:

        Aw man... I was starting to look forward to seeing the naughty outtakes of your video between sets...

        Haha we're friends you can have a private show.

        ?

        PS when in June are you coming up and for how long?

        WSS

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          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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          wait. wth was that? Sarah Palin's backyard was pass-protected? and the russians stole her

          backyard backdoor password?

          Hacking goes on all the time. But this nonsense narrative is just pouty, enraged

          sour grapes to the doofacrat progressives/commies/sociailist snowflake sombeitches' side.

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            @tour2ma said:

            Aw man... I was starting to look forward to seeing the naughty outtakes of your video between sets...

            Haha we're friends you can have a private show.

            ?

            PS when in June are you coming up and for how long?

            WSS

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            Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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            @westside-steve said:

            Haha we're friends you can have a private show. PS when in June are you coming up and for how long?

            I plan to roll thru sometime in the 2nd week. Would you PM me the link to you once posted to your schedule? I've lost track of where it is...

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              C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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              Steve, if Tour comes into town, can you bring him down to our farm? I'd

              like to take him out to shoot some groundhog skeet with me.........

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                @westside-steve said:

                Haha we're friends you can have a private show. PS when in June are you coming up and for how long?

                I plan to roll thru sometime in the 2nd week. Would you PM me the link to you once posted to your schedule? I've lost track of where it is...

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                W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by Westside Steve
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                @tour2ma said:

                I plan to roll thru sometime in the 2nd week. Would you PM me the link to you once posted to your schedule? I've lost track of where it is...

                No need for privacy amigo.

                www.westsidesteve.com

                Also Facebook Westside Steve Simmons.

                My regular Facebook page is Steve W Simmons. 2nd week of June I am playing on Wednesday at the on tap in Medina and Friday Saturday and Sunday at the Riverfront Irish festival in Cuyahoga Falls.

                Many times after my set at the Irish festival we gather at some establishment to hoist a pint or 2. Of the barley and hop or even the root variety.

                WSS

                www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons
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                  @tour2ma said:

                  I plan to roll thru sometime in the 2nd week. Would you PM me the link to you once posted to your schedule? I've lost track of where it is...

                  No need for privacy amigo.

                  www.westsidesteve.com

                  Also Facebook Westside Steve Simmons.

                  My regular Facebook page is Steve W Simmons. 2nd week of June I am playing on Wednesday at the on tap in Medina and Friday Saturday and Sunday at the Riverfront Irish festival in Cuyahoga Falls.

                  Many times after my set at the Irish festival we gather at some establishment to hoist a pint or 2. Of the barley and hop or even the root variety.

                  WSS

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                  Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                  Yeah... I'm not feeling the need to farm this trip...

                  @westside-steve said:

                  No need for privacy amigo.

                  www.westsidesteve.com

                  Also Facebook Westside Steve Simmons.
                  My regular Facebook page is Steve W Simmons. 2nd week of June I am playing on Wednesday at the on tap in Medina and Friday Saturday and Sunday at the Riverfront Irish festival in Cuyahoga Falls.
                  Many times after my set at the Irish festival we gather at some establishment to hoist a pint or 2. Of the barley and hop or even the root variety.
                  WSS

                  lol... privacy was not the issue... retrieval was... FYI your inbox seems to be full.

                  Anywho... copy/paste into notepad done...

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                    Yeah... I'm not feeling the need to farm this trip...

                    @westside-steve said:

                    No need for privacy amigo.

                    www.westsidesteve.com

                    Also Facebook Westside Steve Simmons.
                    My regular Facebook page is Steve W Simmons. 2nd week of June I am playing on Wednesday at the on tap in Medina and Friday Saturday and Sunday at the Riverfront Irish festival in Cuyahoga Falls.
                    Many times after my set at the Irish festival we gather at some establishment to hoist a pint or 2. Of the barley and hop or even the root variety.
                    WSS

                    lol... privacy was not the issue... retrieval was... FYI your inbox seems to be full.

                    Anywho... copy/paste into notepad done...

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                    W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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                    @tour2ma said:

                    Yeah... I'm not feeling the need to farm this trip...

                    lol... privacy was not the issue... retrieval was... FYI your inbox seems to be full.

                    Anywho... copy/paste into notepad done...

                    Yes for some reason I can't delete private messages. Maybe I have to do it on the laptop. I still like the message but there is no delete option underneath it.

                    If you are on Facebook you can send me a message And I think there's a contact me on my website.

                    WSS

                    www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons
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                      @tour2ma said:

                      Yeah... I'm not feeling the need to farm this trip...

                      lol... privacy was not the issue... retrieval was... FYI your inbox seems to be full.

                      Anywho... copy/paste into notepad done...

                      Yes for some reason I can't delete private messages. Maybe I have to do it on the laptop. I still like the message but there is no delete option underneath it.

                      If you are on Facebook you can send me a message And I think there's a contact me on my website.

                      WSS

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                      Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                      @westside-steve said:

                      Yes for some reason I can't delete private messages. Maybe I have to do it on the laptop. I still like the message but there is no delete option underneath it.

                      If you are on Facebook you can send me a message And I think there's a contact me on my website.

                      Really not a fan of the facebook, but I have an account... and am even willing to "friend" you...

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                        @westside-steve said:

                        Yes for some reason I can't delete private messages. Maybe I have to do it on the laptop. I still like the message but there is no delete option underneath it.

                        If you are on Facebook you can send me a message And I think there's a contact me on my website.

                        Really not a fan of the facebook, but I have an account... and am even willing to "friend" you...

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                        W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by Westside Steve
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                        @tour2ma said:

                        Really not a fan of the facebook, but I have an account... and am even willing to "friend" you...

                        Just the easiest way to update my schedule quickly. You know weather changes and stuff up at put in Bay.

                        WSS

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                          Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                          Actually I don't... have never been to Put-in Bay... but I've likely seen it from the top of any one of many Cedar point Attractions.

                          I am way overdue for CP visit...

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                            MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                            I mean, don't get your expectations too high on put in Bay. But it's a fun trip.

                            Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                              Frankly I probably wouldn't visit there if I hadn't been working there for all these years. Depends what you enjoy doing with your leisure time I guess. People ask me if I go out after my gig and see other entertainers and I very rarely do. No disrespect but I don't want to hear a bunch of guys playing the same shit i play. 😉

                              What if you like that kind of stuff there's plenty of it. We do have a microbrew which isn't great but......

                              A lot of restaurants none of which are chains.

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                                tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                                Hold the phone...Irish fest?

                                I'm all about that.

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                                  The more his presidency goes along the more I like it. He convinced the people he has good christian morals, married three times. He convinced people he's a fantastic businessman, failed casino and restructured debt. He convinced people he supports the conservative agenda, registered democrat longer than republican and contributed to democratic campaigns. He convinced people he will support American jobs, outsourced the manufacturing of many products that bear his name and used foreign building materials in construction. The only thing missing is he's not a Catholic who protested Vietnam while driving a woman to an abortion appointment.

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                                    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                                    well, if you'all are goin to go Irish... (not my cup of tea, though)

                                    ************************************************************

                                    BJs Irish Root Beer

                                    After going to BJ's Brewhouse for the first time a few months ago, and having their delicious Irish Root Beer, Clint and I decided to find a recipe/make our own that matched their recipe. It may be a little stronger than what they serve, but it is so so good.

                                    Ingredients:

                                    1 oz Jameson Irish Whiskey (I'm sure other whiskey would work too)

                                    1/2 oz Bailey's Irish Cream

                                    1/2 oz Butterscotch Schnapps

                                    1/2 oz cream

                                    12 oz Root Beer

                                    Directions:

                                    1. Add the ingredients into a chilled glass in the order above. Top with cold root beer. Serve!

                                    *You do not have to add the cream, BJ's Irish Root Beer doesn't have cream in it. It just makes it a little creamier and tastier.

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                                      Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                      And here all along I thought you were a root beer, teetotaler...

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                                        C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                                        learn to read. I clearly said it wasn't my "cup of tea"...

                                        I don't drink alcohol. don't like it. never did. Steve does, that's why I posted the silly recipe.

                                        You COULD try to be legit in your responses. You wouldn't get so MAD, bro.

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                                          learn to read. I clearly said it wasn't my "cup of tea"...

                                          I don't drink alcohol. don't like it. never did. Steve does, that's why I posted the silly recipe.

                                          You COULD try to be legit in your responses. You wouldn't get so MAD, bro.

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                                          Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
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                                          @calfoxwc said:

                                          .

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