Browns hire Ryan Grigson, former Colts GM, as senior personnel executive
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I can't quite figure out why they hired this clown. He makes Ray Farmer look competent. . .
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/05/browns_hire_ryan_grigson_forme.html
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I can't quite figure out why they hired this clown. He makes Ray Farmer look competent. . .
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/05/browns_hire_ryan_grigson_forme.html
I can't quite figure out why they hired this clown. He makes Ray Farmer look competent. . .
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/05/browns_hire_ryan_grigson_forme.html
Right....agree....not much to be excited with here.....track record speaks for itself....
As a scout...may be ok.....as a decision maker.....not so much.....
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@ghoolie said:
Luck holds on to the ball too fucking long. There is no OL that can help the dumb bastard. Again, it was ME who called out this draft pick a a fuck pick.
ghools come on dude. this hold the ball shi$ is way overrated. Just like Ben holding it for Ant Brn..Rogers to Nelson or Cobb Luck has had 1 T Y Hilton that runs a 4.3 40..i mean how fast & how far can any WR run downfield in under 3 seconds before your QB gets freight-trained? (wait for it.....OL play matters even at a dime a dozen)
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As Gipper would say,
"Isn't he the guy who gave us a 1st round pick for Trent Richardson? I rest my case Your Honor!"

Sorry, but I'm not impressed with this acquisition. The Jury's out.
Mike
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This F.O. has a Goddamned losers mentality.
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The only useful draft pick Grigson ever had was Luck.. literally everything else that dude did was a failure. He adds nothing. I have no idea why they did this - they are dumber for ever speaking with him.
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For Fucks sake
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The only useful draft pick Grigson ever had was Luck.. literally everything else that dude did was a failure. He adds nothing. I have no idea why they did this - they are dumber for ever speaking with him.
The only useful draft pick Grigson ever had was Luck.. literally everything else that dude did was a failure. He adds nothing. I have no idea why they did this - they are dumber for ever speaking with him.
Take note Ghoolie- this hire is getting universally panned by Browns fans.... Colts fans glad to see him gone. Terrible hire, just brought on the Captain for the Titanic. Though the Good Ship Cleveland was already 95% sunk as of last year.
Looking at the Organizational Chart- I have to ask- what the hell did they need this bum for? All I see is a guy who no brainered into Andrew Luck, and then proceeded to drive the Colts right into the ground.
From the Cleveland.com comments.....
"As a Indy fan I can tell you he is a total cancer to an organization. Toxic as they come and essentially let Pagano shoulder the blame for the team falling short. Letting a defense become ancient and trying to patch holes with aging free agents instead of building through the draft. When he did draft defense he did it poorly ie: Bjorn Werner. Refusing to protect Luck, granted his last pick 1st round pick of Ryan Kelly which if we are honest was a Irsay pick. The list just goes on. I hope for the sake of the Browns and what has to be the most loyal fan base in sports that he is doing nothing more than collecting a paycheck. You guys deserve better and I hope to see you guys dominate Pittsburgh and get a couple of SB's. "
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@ghoolie said:
Oh, Du'h I eat my own Boogers, Ayum a Browns fan........................... D'uh I can't figure out why dey bringing did guy in, cuz our guyz is alreddy so smart.
It's called 1 - 19 and no fucking weapons after 2 drafts. It's called, Haslam has a lot of the FO on a short leash.
Dey brought hyum inn bekuz heez good buddies with Andrew Berry.
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The only useful draft pick Grigson ever had was Luck.. literally everything else that dude did was a failure. He adds nothing. I have no idea why they did this - they are dumber for ever speaking with him.
Take note Ghoolie- this hire is getting universally panned by Browns fans.... Colts fans glad to see him gone. Terrible hire, just brought on the Captain for the Titanic. Though the Good Ship Cleveland was already 95% sunk as of last year.
Looking at the Organizational Chart- I have to ask- what the hell did they need this bum for? All I see is a guy who no brainered into Andrew Luck, and then proceeded to drive the Colts right into the ground.
From the Cleveland.com comments.....
"As a Indy fan I can tell you he is a total cancer to an organization. Toxic as they come and essentially let Pagano shoulder the blame for the team falling short. Letting a defense become ancient and trying to patch holes with aging free agents instead of building through the draft. When he did draft defense he did it poorly ie: Bjorn Werner. Refusing to protect Luck, granted his last pick 1st round pick of Ryan Kelly which if we are honest was a Irsay pick. The list just goes on. I hope for the sake of the Browns and what has to be the most loyal fan base in sports that he is doing nothing more than collecting a paycheck. You guys deserve better and I hope to see you guys dominate Pittsburgh and get a couple of SB's. "
Though the Good Ship Cleveland was already 95% sunk as of last year.
Looking at the Organizational Chart- I have to ask- what the hell did they need this bum for?
I'll give them year one. They valued collecting a volume of picks to catch up with a deeper reboot than they thought....Grigson replaces Lake Dawson(great name) who left a week ago to go to Bills(Lake ll)...Bills a drafting mess also..Lets see how it works out. Maybe Homo Depot has Sashi installing football chips between their ears? When I heard Andrew Berry 2 years ago as VP of player scouting I thought big trouble. Berry may have a wick under his a$$ on this years draft picks imho..
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I can't quite figure out why they hired this clown. He makes Ray Farmer look competent. . .
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/05/browns_hire_ryan_grigson_forme.html
I can't quite figure out why they hired this clown. He makes Ray Farmer look competent. . .
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/05/browns_hire_ryan_grigson_forme.html
I think Andrew Berry worked for him. Probably tossing a friend a bone.
I see it that the guy had to do something right to get a shot at GM. He's a scout. I dobut he is going to have much voice in the way we do business.
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As Gipper would say,
"Isn't he the guy who gave us a 1st round pick for Trent Richardson? I rest my case Your Honor!"

Sorry, but I'm not impressed with this acquisition. The Jury's out.
Mike
As Gipper would say,
"Isn't he the guy who gave us a 1st round pick for Trent Richardson? I rest my case Your Honor!"

Sorry, but I'm not impressed with this acquisition. The Jury's out.
Mike
That's definitely a head scratcher.
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As Gipper would say,
"Isn't he the guy who gave us a 1st round pick for Trent Richardson? I rest my case Your Honor!"

Sorry, but I'm not impressed with this acquisition. The Jury's out.
Mike
As Gipper would say,
"Isn't he the guy who gave us a 1st round pick for Trent Richardson? I rest my case Your Honor!"

Sorry, but I'm not impressed with this acquisition. The Jury's out.
Mike
Isn't that the guy that gave us a 1st round pick for Trent Richardson?
(What will this guy be doing anyway?)
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But here is the proof of the pudding.
The Bengals lost supposedly "great OL" - I guarantee you that their offense will not miss a step.
The Browns added supposedly great OL - I guarantee you that their offense will be as shitty as it was in 16, maybe even worse.
Guarantees are no damned good unless they are backed up by cash payments by the Guarantor when the Guarantees are in default. You backing them up with cash?
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Though the Good Ship Cleveland was already 95% sunk as of last year.
Looking at the Organizational Chart- I have to ask- what the hell did they need this bum for?
I'll give them year one. They valued collecting a volume of picks to catch up with a deeper reboot than they thought....Grigson replaces Lake Dawson(great name) who left a week ago to go to Bills(Lake ll)...Bills a drafting mess also..Lets see how it works out. Maybe Homo Depot has Sashi installing football chips between their ears? When I heard Andrew Berry 2 years ago as VP of player scouting I thought big trouble. Berry may have a wick under his a$$ on this years draft picks imho..
I'll give them year one. They valued collecting a volume of picks to catch up with a deeper reboot than they thought....Grigson replaces Lake Dawson(great name) who left a week ago to go to Bills(Lake ll)...Bills a drafting mess also..Lets see how it works out. Maybe Homo Depot has Sashi installing football chips between their ears? When I heard Andrew Berry 2 years ago as VP of player scouting I thought big trouble. Berry may have a wick under his a$$ on this years draft picks imho..
The Andrew Berry hire was a head scratcher. Mediocre scout on a team that drafts as bad as Mike Lombardi. It was clear with all of Sashis hires he was just hiring whomever Fritz Pollard Alliance told him was at the top of their list in every position. Andrew Berry was big trouble.
Flash forward to last yeara draft, unorthodox and produced zilch, but okay. We can buy into the whole building a foundation, stockpiling draft picks for next year yadda yadda.
This draft? Clusterfuck to say the least. Drafted a DE with a poor work ethic who takes plays off, a kick returner who has drug and possibly purple drank issues witj a 1st round pick, a TE that can't block, a DT with red flags who was facing charges for hitting a woman and wasn't worth the risk and he idiotically skipped three really good QB prospects to draft Derek Anderson 2.0, a moron who can only launch deep balls, has no brains and folds EVERY. FUCKING. TIME he faces even a little pressure. Just call this draft the what ifs and hopes & dreams draft.
I was all for giving these guys a chance and "time" but after this dradt plus hiring Grigsby? Like I said, a loser mentality permeates the entire Browns Front Office and this stench of shit needs to be heaped on all the other piles of shit since the return.
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Isn't Grigson White?
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Grigson has fuck all to do with Sashi hiring Andrew Berry, Hue Jackoff, Al Saunders and Ray Horton last year. All guys Fritz Pollard were shoving down the NFL's throats as their top rated candidates at each position.
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