Browns hire Ryan Grigson, former Colts GM, as senior personnel executive
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I'll give them year one. They valued collecting a volume of picks to catch up with a deeper reboot than they thought....Grigson replaces Lake Dawson(great name) who left a week ago to go to Bills(Lake ll)...Bills a drafting mess also..Lets see how it works out. Maybe Homo Depot has Sashi installing football chips between their ears? When I heard Andrew Berry 2 years ago as VP of player scouting I thought big trouble. Berry may have a wick under his a$$ on this years draft picks imho..
The Andrew Berry hire was a head scratcher. Mediocre scout on a team that drafts as bad as Mike Lombardi. It was clear with all of Sashis hires he was just hiring whomever Fritz Pollard Alliance told him was at the top of their list in every position. Andrew Berry was big trouble.
Flash forward to last yeara draft, unorthodox and produced zilch, but okay. We can buy into the whole building a foundation, stockpiling draft picks for next year yadda yadda.
This draft? Clusterfuck to say the least. Drafted a DE with a poor work ethic who takes plays off, a kick returner who has drug and possibly purple drank issues witj a 1st round pick, a TE that can't block, a DT with red flags who was facing charges for hitting a woman and wasn't worth the risk and he idiotically skipped three really good QB prospects to draft Derek Anderson 2.0, a moron who can only launch deep balls, has no brains and folds EVERY. FUCKING. TIME he faces even a little pressure. Just call this draft the what ifs and hopes & dreams draft.
I was all for giving these guys a chance and "time" but after this dradt plus hiring Grigsby? Like I said, a loser mentality permeates the entire Browns Front Office and this stench of shit needs to be heaped on all the other piles of shit since the return.
The Andrew Berry hire was a head scratcher. Mediocre scout on a team that drafts as bad as Mike Lombardi. It was clear with all of Sashis hires he was just hiring whomever Fritz Pollard Alliance told him was at the top of their list in every position. Andrew Berry was big trouble.
Flash forward to last yeara draft, unorthodox and produced zilch, but okay. We can buy into the whole building a foundation, stockpiling draft picks for next year yadda yadda.
This draft? Clusterfuck to say the least. Drafted a DE with a poor work ethic who takes plays off, a kick returner who has drug and possibly purple drank issues witj a 1st round pick, a TE that can't block, a DT with red flags who was facing charges for hitting a woman and wasn't worth the risk and he idiotically skipped three really good QB prospects to draft Derek Anderson 2.0, a moron who can only launch deep balls, has no brains and folds EVERY. FUCKING. TIME he faces even a little pressure. Just call this draft the what ifs and hopes & dreams draft.
I was all for giving these guys a chance and "time" but after this dradt plus hiring Grigsby? Like I said, a loser mentality permeates the entire Browns Front Office and this stench of shit needs to be heaped on all the other piles of shit since the return.
Dude are you trapped in Ghoolie's basement with a guy named Tommy? (Chong maybe) get to a window & blow in your Vikings dunce hat with horns & get help.Fritz Pollard does not have a room of reserved Harvard guys waiting on Depo & Sashi to call Fritz. Harvard's S. Brown went after Harvard. That's on S.Brown. Out of Wentz & Brock & Watson they have collected over 15 picks. Still have a good chance of Ogbah,C.Coleman,S.Coleman & Kessler developing into NFL talent. At least 4 more hits this draft imo. Kizer was the guy that fell to them..not giving away the farm to a class of Kizer's "hope he develops" QB's. The only connection I can put together on Grigsby & Berry is "Let's do it again" on finding the right Andrew Luck in next years draft. They have & kept the ammo at a better pro style QB draft class in 18. But with our Luck, it may take 2 farms to get us there from 5th to 6th pick
Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends -
His job in Philly was fetching coffee for that dumbfuck we fired years ago Tom Suckert. Let him go back to fetching coffee elsewhere, Cleveland needs for the first time since before the return a proven SUCCESS hiring other successes. This is nothing more than Holmgren 2.0 and Berry hiring his loser friends who can't get jobs anywhere else.
Does anyone think that this is Ghoolie in disguise?
Does anyone think that this is Ghoolie in disguise?
uh ya
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Yes, it is all a vast conspiracy. Anyone who won't dream the Browns managers cum filled kool aid is obviously all one person. It can't be that multiple folks see the idiocy in the front office. Nahh.....
Yes, it is all a vast conspiracy. Anyone who won't dream the Browns managers cum filled kool aid is obviously all one person. It can't be that multiple folks see the idiocy in the front office. Nahh.....
#insulinisthenewgold
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Berry pulled a Holmgren and hired a friend.
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The Andrew Berry hire was a head scratcher. Mediocre scout on a team that drafts as bad as Mike Lombardi. It was clear with all of Sashis hires he was just hiring whomever Fritz Pollard Alliance told him was at the top of their list in every position. Andrew Berry was big trouble.
Flash forward to last yeara draft, unorthodox and produced zilch, but okay. We can buy into the whole building a foundation, stockpiling draft picks for next year yadda yadda.
This draft? Clusterfuck to say the least. Drafted a DE with a poor work ethic who takes plays off, a kick returner who has drug and possibly purple drank issues witj a 1st round pick, a TE that can't block, a DT with red flags who was facing charges for hitting a woman and wasn't worth the risk and he idiotically skipped three really good QB prospects to draft Derek Anderson 2.0, a moron who can only launch deep balls, has no brains and folds EVERY. FUCKING. TIME he faces even a little pressure. Just call this draft the what ifs and hopes & dreams draft.
I was all for giving these guys a chance and "time" but after this dradt plus hiring Grigsby? Like I said, a loser mentality permeates the entire Browns Front Office and this stench of shit needs to be heaped on all the other piles of shit since the return.
Dude are you trapped in Ghoolie's basement with a guy named Tommy? (Chong maybe) get to a window & blow in your Vikings dunce hat with horns & get help.Fritz Pollard does not have a room of reserved Harvard guys waiting on Depo & Sashi to call Fritz. Harvard's S. Brown went after Harvard. That's on S.Brown. Out of Wentz & Brock & Watson they have collected over 15 picks. Still have a good chance of Ogbah,C.Coleman,S.Coleman & Kessler developing into NFL talent. At least 4 more hits this draft imo. Kizer was the guy that fell to them..not giving away the farm to a class of Kizer's "hope he develops" QB's. The only connection I can put together on Grigsby & Berry is "Let's do it again" on finding the right Andrew Luck in next years draft. They have & kept the ammo at a better pro style QB draft class in 18. But with our Luck, it may take 2 farms to get us there from 5th to 6th pick
Dude are you trapped in Ghoolie's basement with a guy named Tommy? (Chong maybe) get to a window & blow in your Vikings dunce hat with horns & get help.Fritz Pollard does not have a room of reserved Harvard guys waiting on Depo & Sashi to call Fritz. Harvard's S. Brown went after Harvard. That's on S.Brown. Out of Wentz & Brock & Watson they have collected over 15 picks. Still have a good chance of Ogbah,C.Coleman,S.Coleman & Kessler developing into NFL talent. At least 4 more hits this draft imo. Kizer was the guy that fell to them..not giving away the farm to a class of Kizer's "hope he develops" QB's. The only connection I can put together on Grigsby & Berry is "Let's do it again" on finding the right Andrew Luck in next years draft. They have & kept the ammo at a better pro style QB draft class in 18. But with our Luck, it may take 2 farms to get us there from 5th to 6th pick
Awesome, you named a bunch of guys that went 1-15 and won't move the needle much higher without a QB. That's about all I got out of that idiotic inbred NC diatribe. Well that and because you somehow equated my username to a the MN Vikings like an idiot. Maybe take your own advice and put the meth pipe down Billy Bob.
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Berry pulled a Holmgren and hired a friend.
Berry pulled a Holmgren and hired a friend.
Careful, that might get you accused of being Ghoolie in some peoples conspiracy theories.
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Dude are you trapped in Ghoolie's basement with a guy named Tommy? (Chong maybe) get to a window & blow in your Vikings dunce hat with horns & get help.Fritz Pollard does not have a room of reserved Harvard guys waiting on Depo & Sashi to call Fritz. Harvard's S. Brown went after Harvard. That's on S.Brown. Out of Wentz & Brock & Watson they have collected over 15 picks. Still have a good chance of Ogbah,C.Coleman,S.Coleman & Kessler developing into NFL talent. At least 4 more hits this draft imo. Kizer was the guy that fell to them..not giving away the farm to a class of Kizer's "hope he develops" QB's. The only connection I can put together on Grigsby & Berry is "Let's do it again" on finding the right Andrew Luck in next years draft. They have & kept the ammo at a better pro style QB draft class in 18. But with our Luck, it may take 2 farms to get us there from 5th to 6th pick
Awesome, you named a bunch of guys that went 1-15 and won't move the needle much higher without a QB. That's about all I got out of that idiotic inbred NC diatribe. Well that and because you somehow equated my username to a the MN Vikings like an idiot. Maybe take your own advice and put the meth pipe down Billy Bob.
Maybe take your own advice and put the meth pipe down Billy Bob.
meth pipe? no that was the guy Jim Ersay..they left him running the place in Indy #vikingslong
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well, the Grigson hire is a mistake, to me. Maybe not, but
I take it that he is a football guy who rose way past his level of
incompetency, and has to be starting "all over" again.
Hopefully, it doesn't prove to be a mistake. This FO is plenty brilliant.
They have to have somebody take the company car and go get
the donuts and coffees for meetings....
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I'll give them year one. They valued collecting a volume of picks to catch up with a deeper reboot than they thought....Grigson replaces Lake Dawson(great name) who left a week ago to go to Bills(Lake ll)...Bills a drafting mess also..Lets see how it works out. Maybe Homo Depot has Sashi installing football chips between their ears? When I heard Andrew Berry 2 years ago as VP of player scouting I thought big trouble. Berry may have a wick under his a$$ on this years draft picks imho..
The Andrew Berry hire was a head scratcher. Mediocre scout on a team that drafts as bad as Mike Lombardi. It was clear with all of Sashis hires he was just hiring whomever Fritz Pollard Alliance told him was at the top of their list in every position. Andrew Berry was big trouble.
Flash forward to last yeara draft, unorthodox and produced zilch, but okay. We can buy into the whole building a foundation, stockpiling draft picks for next year yadda yadda.
This draft? Clusterfuck to say the least. Drafted a DE with a poor work ethic who takes plays off, a kick returner who has drug and possibly purple drank issues witj a 1st round pick, a TE that can't block, a DT with red flags who was facing charges for hitting a woman and wasn't worth the risk and he idiotically skipped three really good QB prospects to draft Derek Anderson 2.0, a moron who can only launch deep balls, has no brains and folds EVERY. FUCKING. TIME he faces even a little pressure. Just call this draft the what ifs and hopes & dreams draft.
I was all for giving these guys a chance and "time" but after this dradt plus hiring Grigsby? Like I said, a loser mentality permeates the entire Browns Front Office and this stench of shit needs to be heaped on all the other piles of shit since the return.
This draft? Clusterfuck to say the least.
Uh-huh...
His job in Philly was fetching...
Interesting choice of words... Disciple or alt? I'm leaning towards the latter...
A scout that can't properly evaluate talent is worse than worthless though. If Grigson signed off on that stuff in Indy- be worried- very worried.
Hoorta: consistently wrong? How in any case do you know his evaluations as a scout? Based on his track record as a GM? Then heed your own opinion....if the people supplying him with information suck.....
Bingo... some folks simply can't get it out of their head that a GM is not simply the "Top Scout", a "Super Scout". They're the same folks that want to see Sashi as "The Decider"... or replace him with a "football guy". It'd be funny if it weren't so sad...
Yes, true, old-school GMs still "evaluate" talent, but they don't scout... they can't scout... they don't have time to scout. They have an office to run. They have to have far reaching skills that not only not every, but most true scouts don't have.
One person being both a great scout, but a spectacularly shitty GM is not only not a surprise, it's close to the norm. It's called "The Peter Principle." There's a whole book on it...
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well, the Grigson hire is a mistake, to me. Maybe not, but
I take it that he is a football guy who rose way past his level of
incompetency, and has to be starting "all over" again.
Hopefully, it doesn't prove to be a mistake. This FO is plenty brilliant.
They have to have somebody take the company car and go get
the donuts and coffees for meetings....
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People sometimes learn from their mistakes and get better
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Y'all should freak out about this a little more. This guy might quite literally be a coffee fetcher.
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Y'all should freak out about this a little more. This guy might quite literally be a coffee fetcher.
This guy might quite literally be a coffee fetcher.
Oh, no! Not another alt!
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Have we maxed out our quota of coffee fetchers this year?
Have we maxed out our quota of coffee fetchers this year?
All I know is I just had to get up and get my 2nd cup myself...
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Have we maxed out our quota of coffee fetchers this year?
All I know is I just had to get up and get my 2nd cup myself...
All I know is I just had to get up and get my 2nd cup myself...
You may get that dream job in Berea after all.
Keep up the good work Tour.
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@ghoolie said:
Dude...................... Give the shit a rest. I have NEVER even thought about an alternative screen name, other than when it was an over the top...obvious joke that even the fucktards here could plainly see was SNL genre parody................
FOR INSTANCE........................I might post as FATASS JOE THOMAS................... would there be anyh doubt? AND.............. I wouldn't alter my writing style..............
That the guy agrees with me and has picked up on my poignant euphemisms is not anything new. Plenty of people here have incorporated coffee fetcher, OL are a dime a dozen, fatass OL, Black Tarkenton and other wisdom that always comes to the top as truth once the seasons unfold.
I am iconic on this board. I am the most distinguished, respected, known, revered, respected, and hated poster that has ever graced a sports board, and for sure, I am iconic on TBB. Tour2ma.........has an Avatar that he thinks is the "negative Ghoolie".......
People come in to my threads and post VOLUMINOUSLY how they never read me, and are glad I am on ignore. Hell, I don't start 1/10 the threads you do, and yet, I am still too much for some of these bukake collectors. WTF do I need another screen name for? I am already alive in most of what is posted here.
OK, Gools.....but you should be flattered, it seems that Viking Dawg is doing an homage to you.....or maybe Viking Dawg is just a Single White Female?
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@ghoolie said:
The entire FO is comprised of coffee fetchers.
Truer words have never been spoken. Ever. This sums up this Front Office to a tee.
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@ghoolie said:
Dude...................... Give the shit a rest. I have NEVER even thought about an alternative screen name, other than when it was an over the top...obvious joke that even the fucktards here could plainly see was SNL genre parody................
FOR INSTANCE........................I might post as FATASS JOE THOMAS................... would there be anyh doubt? AND.............. I wouldn't alter my writing style..............
That the guy agrees with me and has picked up on my poignant euphemisms is not anything new. Plenty of people here have incorporated coffee fetcher, OL are a dime a dozen, fatass OL, Black Tarkenton and other wisdom that always comes to the top as truth once the seasons unfold.
I am iconic on this board. I am the most distinguished, respected, known, revered, respected, and hated poster that has ever graced a sports board, and for sure, I am iconic on TBB. Tour2ma.........has an Avatar that he thinks is the "negative Ghoolie".......
People come in to my threads and post VOLUMINOUSLY how they never read me, and are glad I am on ignore. Hell, I don't start 1/10 the threads you do, and yet, I am still too much for some of these bukake collectors. WTF do I need another screen name for? I am already alive in most of what is posted here.
OK, Gools.....but you should be flattered, it seems that Viking Dawg is doing an homage to you.....or maybe Viking Dawg is just a Single White Female?
OK, Gools.....but you should be flattered, it seems that Viking Dawg is doing an homage to you.....or maybe Viking Dawg is just a Single White Female?
Or maybe it could be Vikingdawg has an opinion of his own and sees things a different way then all the shit talkers who cannot fathom that some people have no desire to lick Sashi and Hues assholes clean all day every day.
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