Browns approached about training camp in Hall of Fame Village
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I think they'll all be back as soon as the team starts winning some. Like they said on Believeland, you thought the parade for the Cavs was big? Wait until the Browns win something. It's a Brownstown, always and forever. Maybe the actual Cleveland residents think otherwise.
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Mud, all that drivel doesn't impress me. I never called oneil the best, blah blah.
It's just that whining about the past doesn't change anything with the Browns.
Give it freaking up already. If it isn't fun, get a freaking hobby until it is.
Meanwhile, I'm more like upbeat that the Browns are turning the corner now.
I don't have to see them in the superbowl before I stop bitching about the old front offices, the old
draft debacles, etc etc etc etc etc etc etc.
Maybe it would help the Browns win games if you whipped yourself with chains and fasted, Mud.
No, I'm just kidding, don't do that. Even Eyore was upbeat once or twice...almost.
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I think they'll all be back as soon as the team starts winning some. Like they said on Believeland, you thought the parade for the Cavs was big? Wait until the Browns win something. It's a Brownstown, always and forever. Maybe the actual Cleveland residents think otherwise.
I think they'll all be back as soon as the team starts winning some. Like they said on Believeland, you thought the parade for the Cavs was big? Wait until the Browns win something. It's a Brownstown, always and forever. Maybe the actual Cleveland residents think otherwise.
me too....I think if the team wins, the fans will come back in droves.....(just like they left....which they would have to do in order to come back.....which was my first point to begin with).....so, agreed...
Mud, all that drivel doesn't impress me. I never called oneil the best, blah blah.
It's just that whining about the past doesn't change anything with the Browns.
Im more in the moment than anything Cal....last season I whined about this FO and this team and this coach, based on last year....this year Ive been complimentary of that same FO, based on what Ive seen this year.....tis you that lives in the future fantasy land, whilst telling me not to live in the past, even though Im commenting on the here and now...
Give it freaking up already. If it isn't fun, get a freaking hobby until it is.
Who said football isnt fun?.....Its losing that isnt fun.....wish the Browns would give THAT up......My hobby IS football....I like it, I study it, I form opinions on it....just because they dont align with yours doesnt mean I should give it up.....
Meanwhile, I'm more like upbeat that the Browns are turning the corner now.
Ill be elated if they do.....but you've had em turning that corner for years now.....Im waiting to actually see it.....
I don't have to see them in the superbowl before I stop bitching about the old front offices, the old
draft debacles, etc etc etc etc etc etc etc.
me either...Im bitchin about the more current ones.....
Maybe it would help the Browns win games if you whipped yourself with chains and fasted, Mud.
It might....lord knows they dont know the formula....
No, I'm just kidding, don't do that. Even Eyore was upbeat once or twice...almost.
I was quite the optimist for a coupla years on this board....only shifted this past year, when Haslam shit the bed for the third or fourth time....and the FO he placed did some of the dumbest shit ever......and, EVEN WITH THAT, I gave credit where it was due for the couple/few good picks and this years draft.....but, as Ive said before, you only see what you choose to see.....
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I think they'll all be back as soon as the team starts winning some. Like they said on Believeland, you thought the parade for the Cavs was big? Wait until the Browns win something. It's a Brownstown, always and forever. Maybe the actual Cleveland residents think otherwise.
me too....I think if the team wins, the fans will come back in droves.....(just like they left....which they would have to do in order to come back.....which was my first point to begin with).....so, agreed...
Mud, all that drivel doesn't impress me. I never called oneil the best, blah blah.
It's just that whining about the past doesn't change anything with the Browns.
Im more in the moment than anything Cal....last season I whined about this FO and this team and this coach, based on last year....this year Ive been complimentary of that same FO, based on what Ive seen this year.....tis you that lives in the future fantasy land, whilst telling me not to live in the past, even though Im commenting on the here and now...
Give it freaking up already. If it isn't fun, get a freaking hobby until it is.
Who said football isnt fun?.....Its losing that isnt fun.....wish the Browns would give THAT up......My hobby IS football....I like it, I study it, I form opinions on it....just because they dont align with yours doesnt mean I should give it up.....
Meanwhile, I'm more like upbeat that the Browns are turning the corner now.
Ill be elated if they do.....but you've had em turning that corner for years now.....Im waiting to actually see it.....
I don't have to see them in the superbowl before I stop bitching about the old front offices, the old
draft debacles, etc etc etc etc etc etc etc.
me either...Im bitchin about the more current ones.....
Maybe it would help the Browns win games if you whipped yourself with chains and fasted, Mud.
It might....lord knows they dont know the formula....
No, I'm just kidding, don't do that. Even Eyore was upbeat once or twice...almost.
I was quite the optimist for a coupla years on this board....only shifted this past year, when Haslam shit the bed for the third or fourth time....and the FO he placed did some of the dumbest shit ever......and, EVEN WITH THAT, I gave credit where it was due for the couple/few good picks and this years draft.....but, as Ive said before, you only see what you choose to see.....
me too....I think if the team wins, the fans will come back in droves.....(just like they left....which they would have to do in order to come back.....which was my first point to begin with).....so, agreed...
But my point is there's really no reason to worry about the lost Clevelanders.
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me too....I think if the team wins, the fans will come back in droves.....(just like they left....which they would have to do in order to come back.....which was my first point to begin with).....so, agreed...
But my point is there's really no reason to worry about the lost Clevelanders.
But my point is there's really no reason to worry about the lost Clevelanders.
Im not really worried about them.....just dont want Jimmah to move our training camp to Columbus.....thats all
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how the )(^(*&^ did the NSA get that pic of me? Big, serious trouble....
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More like Cal Trask the bean farmer heading for Monterey.

(will the millennials get that?)
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They are also losing fans, hand over fist, for 20 years now.....so, why work to gain fans in a far away city, when your own local fan base is crumbling?......seems like they are alienating us local fans who have had their backs all these years, and now that times are rough, they are pushing us aside to get some new fans....
Just another perspective to consider.....
They are also losing fans, hand over fist, for 20 years now.....so, why work to gain fans in a far away city, when your own local fan base is crumbling?......seems like they are alienating us local fans who have had their backs all these years, and now that times are rough, they are pushing us aside to get some new fans....
Just another perspective to consider.....
By losing I think it is basically that fans are becoming "fair weather"....but, with any kind of spark of competiveness I think all those "lost fans" come flocking back.
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They are also losing fans, hand over fist, for 20 years now.....so, why work to gain fans in a far away city, when your own local fan base is crumbling?......seems like they are alienating us local fans who have had their backs all these years, and now that times are rough, they are pushing us aside to get some new fans....
Just another perspective to consider.....
By losing I think it is basically that fans are becoming "fair weather"....but, with any kind of spark of competiveness I think all those "lost fans" come flocking back.
By losing I think it is basically that fans are becoming "fair weather"....but, with any kind of spark of competiveness I think all those "lost fans" come flocking back.
And I don't think the Browns have to even produce a lot of wins for that to happen. Just producing exciting games with a lot of young talent showing the future is all the spark that is needed. It's the main reason I have talked up building the D first, because you can do that faster than a superior offense. Plus that formula has worked well for teams that eventually win SBs.
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