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  • Been reading from a couple media guys that were at the OTA's that Brock is looking pretty good. Zac Jackson even said, "Brock looks like the best one out there, and it's not even close."

    Now, this isn't a giant surprise. John Elway offered this guy a bunch of money to be the guy in Denver, and John doesn't historically do that for just anyone. Brock is big, tall, and more mobile than you think. He also throws a good ball and has plenty of juice on it. Don't be surprised if Brock looks great when it doesn't count, but then sucks when the lights come on. Classic, "Look like Tarzan, play like Jane" kind of guy.

    Or maybe he's truly garbage, or maybe...just maybe...the guy is actually a decent player and we found a steal.

    @jiggins7919 said:

    Been reading from a couple media guys that were at the OTA's that Brock is looking pretty good. Zac Jackson even said, "Brock looks like the best one out there, and it's not even close."

    Now, this isn't a giant surprise. John Elway offered this guy a bunch of money to be the guy in Denver, and John doesn't historically do that for just anyone. Brock is big, tall, and more mobile than you think. He also throws a good ball and has plenty of juice on it. Don't be surprised if Brock looks great when it doesn't count, but then sucks when the lights come on. Classic, "Look like Tarzan, play like Jane" kind of guy.

    Or maybe he's truly garbage, or maybe...just maybe...the guy is actually a decent player and we found a steal.

    Elway wanted him to stay but would not match the money Houston offered. Too bad for Denver but good for the Browns if he turns out to be the 2015 version.

  • I have high hopes for the guy. O'Brien is a difficult person. My hope is Brock responds better to Hue's coaching style.

  • I have high hopes for the guy. O'Brien is a difficult person. My hope is Brock responds better to Hue's coaching style.

    @ballpeen said:

    O'Brien is a difficult person.

    Such understatement deserves quotation...

  • Can anyone name a QB that succeeded in Bill O'Briens offense? I have hope for Brock and fully expect him to be our opening day starter.

  • Can anyone name a QB that succeeded in Bill O'Briens offense? I have hope for Brock and fully expect him to be our opening day starter.

    @topdawg31 said:

    Can anyone name a QB that succeeded in Bill O'Briens offense?

    Tom Brady....

  • @topdawg31 said:

    Can anyone name a QB that succeeded in Bill O'Briens offense?

    Tom Brady....

    @mudfly said:

    Tom Brady....

    Ok so one got lucky, but was it really Obrien? Dude has had many years of success without him.

  • @mudfly said:

    Tom Brady....

    Ok so one got lucky, but was it really Obrien? Dude has had many years of success without him.

    @topdawg31 said:

    Ok so one got lucky, but was it really Obrien? Dude has had many years of success without him.

    Of course he's had success w/o him.....how many star QB's are great because of their coaches?

    My point would be that good QB's usually play good and bad QB's usually dont....no matter who the coach is....

    Obrien doesnt really have an NFL pedigree, as the Patriots are pretty much the only NFL team he has coached for....cept the Texans, who have yet to tap into a good QB since he's been there....IE: he's had the amazing opportunity to coach Ryan Mallet, Brian Hoyer, Brandon Weeden, TJ Yates and Brock.....

    The one (almost) decent guy they have given him was Ryan Fitzpatrick, who happened to have his highest rating in 10 season the one year he played there.....not saying it was Obriens doing, just saying it is what it is.....

  • All true... so what I think we can surmise from Bill-O's success/failure examples is the his "system" is more demanding mentally than it is physically.

    Can't say for sure where Hue's demand levels are comparatively, but my impression is that mental is less while physical is greater.

  • @pumpkin-eater said:

    Of course he looks great compared to desuck suckzer and sucky suckler.

    you really need new material

    @jcam222 said:

    you really need new material

    Ok jsuck22suck

  • Of course he looks great compared to desuck suckzer and sucky suckler.

    @pumpkin-eater said:

    Of course he looks great compared to desuck suckzer and sucky suckler.

    You strike me as the kind of guy who secretively writes "poop" on a piece of scratch paper and then giggles uncontrollably.