Peckers hold out
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Yeah let's hope he doesn't pull a Bosa
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Recent history should answer that one.....Manziel, Gilbert, Mingo......
If he's cut(Manziel)......we dont want to pay him......and if he's traded away for a throw away pick(Mingo, Gilbert) we dont want to carry the guaranteed part of the salary.....(which is what often happens when trying to get another team to take your problems ala Osweiler) Mud
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ah. I figured I was asking a dumb question. lol
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Recent history should answer that one.....Manziel, Gilbert, Mingo......
If he's cut(Manziel)......we dont want to pay him......and if he's traded away for a throw away pick(Mingo, Gilbert) we dont want to carry the guaranteed part of the salary.....(which is what often happens when trying to get another team to take your problems ala Osweiler) Mud
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ah. I figured I was asking a dumb question. lol
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ah. I figured I was asking a dumb question. lol
Not really......plus, I did a lil extra research and got a good explanantion on the offset language.....
So....lets use Manziel, since he was cut after 2 years.....and lets say he was contractually owed 4 mill a year, which we have to keep paying him......then he signs with another team for 2 mill.....
With "offset" language, we would only have to pay him 2 mill(the difference bnetween the 2 contracts).......w/o offset, we would still pay him 4 mill, plus he would get the 2 mill from his new team.....MEANING.....getting cut and then signed by someone else allows him to collect from both teams, which would earn him 6 mill a year....
Doesnt seem right......so the browns dont want to pay him if another team signs him.....and Peppers thinks they should.....
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ah. without the offset language then, it's double your money if you get cut...and you get double paid with the additon
of the second team contract.....
Maybe the NFL should just establish offset language as the contractual standard for the entire NFL.
seems dumb to have coaches? and players paid by two different teams at the same time... Unless Peppers
was a mistake, he should fire his agents and forget the prima donna no-offset advantage. I know it's
"a business"... but it seems like a player who is only all about sitting around and making more and more big money..
isn't a player I'd want on my football team.
We'll see how it plays out - could be Peppers has family matters to tend to, so the delay is manufactured in
the meantime... ? He needs to get on board, can't wait to see him play in Williams' schemes.
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Yeah let's hope he doesn't pull a Bosa
If he pulls a Bosa we'll know he's probably in the right then.
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Yeah let's hope he doesn't pull a Bosa
So far, he's pulling the dick head part off pretty well......so lets hope he accomplishes the great player part too...
I do believe Bosa was DROY........so, we shall see......
As an aside.....is Bosa stage one in the league drug program too?
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All I'm doing is reminding everyone that Boss, a Buckeye, held out a damn long time. Compare and contrast the two situations all you like. Just providing the reminder
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All I'm doing is reminding everyone that Boss, a Buckeye, held out a damn long time. Compare and contrast the two situations all you like. Just providing the reminder
All I'm doing is reminding everyone that Boss, a Buckeye, held out a damn long time. Compare and contrast the two situations all you like. Just providing the reminder
Ahhh.....but no one needs a reminder......cause no one but you cares......fuck Bosa....(see how easy I did that?)...
I dont see anyone defending him like you do Peppers.....and didnt see it last year when he was holding out....and I dont see anyone knocking him "cause of Michigan".....yet I DO see you making it all about where he and Bosa originated
But, since they are football players and we come here to talk football ( and NOT what college players come from).....I will remind you that Bosa is a damn good player......won DROY.....and kicks ass on the field(which is the ONLY thing that matters)....
So....lets hope your boy does the same.....and if he sucks, I aint gonna say it was because he's a Michigan guy....Ima say he sucks at football....but YOU will take it personally, because it's ALL about 'where" he played....not "how" he played....
And I am 100% certain.....100% 100%....that if Peppers was an OSU guy, you wouldnt think he was anything special.......and wouldnt be on here touting him up.....
And if BOSA was a Michigan guy....you'd think he was god......
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I was very happy we drafted Peppers. I loved watching him in college. I'm happy we have a Michigan guy on our team.
I have not made any wild predictions about what he'll accomplish because he's from Michigan. I have not talked him up to be a sure fire hall if famer because he's from Michigan.
There are OSU fans on here who completely lose all common sense when Michigan is part of the subject at hand. When i say "Peppers is very good returner" they lose their shit because of what they perceive as my obvious, overwhelming bias. The same posters the will repeatedly just say "fuck Michigan" in the cfb thread regardless of context. The same posters that were devastated and angered with didn't take the buckeye, Hooker.
They can deny that as they see fit, and probably will, but I'm around OSU fans enough to know the difference.
I don't want to make this about the school, but i also know the history of posts on here from certain people. I know the school Peppers played for will affect how some fans view him. Because of that, I'm using the buckeye, their guy, for some context.
Now maybe I'm not describing you. Great. I'm happy you can look at this from an unbiased viewpoint. But sadly that clearly isn't everyone. And because of that, i need to provide the OSU / Michigan context here
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
If its over offset language I bet they get this deal done before the end of July..
Peppers and his camp doesn't want the negative attention that goes around players who hold out for deals, especially since he is a rookie, and needs to learn the speed and recognize offensive formations and plays at the NFL level.
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I was very happy we drafted Peppers. I loved watching him in college. I'm happy we have a Michigan guy on our team.
I have not made any wild predictions about what he'll accomplish because he's from Michigan. I have not talked him up to be a sure fire hall if famer because he's from Michigan.
There are OSU fans on here who completely lose all common sense when Michigan is part of the subject at hand. When i say "Peppers is very good returner" they lose their shit because of what they perceive as my obvious, overwhelming bias. The same posters the will repeatedly just say "fuck Michigan" in the cfb thread regardless of context. The same posters that were devastated and angered with didn't take the buckeye, Hooker.
They can deny that as they see fit, and probably will, but I'm around OSU fans enough to know the difference.
I don't want to make this about the school, but i also know the history of posts on here from certain people. I know the school Peppers played for will affect how some fans view him. Because of that, I'm using the buckeye, their guy, for some context.
Now maybe I'm not describing you. Great. I'm happy you can look at this from an unbiased viewpoint. But sadly that clearly isn't everyone. And because of that, i need to provide the OSU / Michigan context here
There are OSU fans on here who completely lose all common sense when Michigan is part of the subject at hand. When i say "Peppers is very good returner" they lose their shit because of what they perceive as my obvious, overwhelming bias. The same posters the will repeatedly just say "fuck Michigan" in the cfb thread regardless of context. The same posters that were devastated and angered with didn't take the buckeye, Hooker.
But I dont see that here on the BROWNS board....so lets leave it for the CFB board.....k?
I don't want to make this about the school, but i also know the history of posts on here from certain people.
Yet you constantly do......hence your history too....(and on this thread, for example)
Great. I'm happy you can look at this from an unbiased viewpoint.
And, if you could, we would have a LOT less Mich/OSU debate here on a "BROWNS" board.......has it ever dawned on you that this is OSU country?.....and OSU's greatest rival is Michigan?.....yet you seem appalled by folks favoring OSU?.....
But sadly that clearly isn't everyone. And because of that, i need to provide the OSU / Michigan context here
And you clearly fit in that group and cant seem to be unbiased.... there is ZERO reason to have OSU MICHIGAN debates on a Browns board....
Go Back to the college boards....cause we wouldnt be discussing it here if YOU were able to keep yer trap shut.....aint NO ONE above talking Michigan crap about Peppers or his hold out.....
I know...recently....I suggested he was a tad bit prima donna ish......and who freaked?.....and why?......(college bias)
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Exactly. Bosa wasn't drafted by the Browns though so it makes less difference to us. On the other hand my boy Brady Quinn was drafted by the Browns and held up which I think hurt the team and his career. And pisssed me off greatly.Yeah let's hope he doesn't pull a Bosa
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By the way Woodrow I was happy enough that they drafted Peppers I don't care that hes from Michigan And I hope the gamble of passing of Hooker pays off. On the other hand if he screws over the team he can fuck himsself like any other player from any other University.
WSS
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Puhleeze lets not lose sleep over our new return man on special teams...
THIS is the way of the Browns Mah Nikkaz! A meaningless player. We have a team with a jackoff head coach, no QB, no Wrs, no TEs and a very shallw RB corps, and these fucktards are studying to be contract experts for a fucking guy who is a punt returner.
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Exactly. Bosa wasn't drafted by the Browns though so it makes less difference to us. On the other hand my boy Brady Quinn was drafted by the Browns and held up which I think hurt the team and his career. And pisssed me off greatly.Yeah let's hope he doesn't pull a Bosa
WSS
Exactly. Bosa wasn't drafted by the Browns though so it makes less difference to us. On the other hand my boy Brady Quinn was drafted by the Browns and held up which I think hurt the team and his career. And pisssed me off greatly.
WSS
Well even outside of the OSU connection, they have the same agent
Some agent that thinks he can get everything for the player apparently
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Exactly. Bosa wasn't drafted by the Browns though so it makes less difference to us. On the other hand my boy Brady Quinn was drafted by the Browns and held up which I think hurt the team and his career. And pisssed me off greatly.
WSS
Well even outside of the OSU connection, they have the same agent
Some agent that thinks he can get everything for the player apparently
Well even outside of the OSU connection, they have the same agent
Some agent that thinks he can get everything for the player apparently
....and some players that hire him because they want everything....apparently....
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Puhleeze lets not lose sleep over our new return man on special teams...
THIS is the way of the Browns Mah Nikkaz! A meaningless player. We have a team with a jackoff head coach, no QB, no Wrs, no TEs and a very shallw RB corps, and these fucktards are studying to be contract experts for a fucking guy who is a punt returner.
THIS is the way of the Browns Mah Nikkaz! A meaningless player. We have a team with a jackoff head coach, no QB, no Wrs, no TEs and a very shallw RB corps, and these fucktards are studying to be contract experts for a fucking guy who is a punt returner.
We're all set. We have Gregg Williams (pronounced Will I ams).
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
If its over offset language I bet they get this deal done before the end of July..
Peppers and his camp doesn't want the negative attention that goes around players who hold out for deals, especially since he is a rookie, and needs to learn the speed and recognize offensive formations and plays at the NFL level.
Still a month away, I wouldn't go getting our underwear soiled over something that isn't really a big deal..If its over offset language I bet they get this deal done before the end of July..
Dunno... The #1's that book-ended Peppy in our draft both accepted their offset clauses. That would tend to dig our FO in deeper.
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