PFF: Offensive Line Ranked 2nd for 2017
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So when you come to see that the offense again is dump and dink and our QBs get killed.............. will you once again moan that the OL is the problem?
I have news for you taint sniffers, this OL will be as shitty as the 2016, 2015, etc. have been. Why?
NO FIVE MEN CAN BLOCK EIGHT MEN.
Without offensive playmakers to keep the oppsing D honest, they will again not bit on play fakes, and play close to the LOS. This OL will fare no better than the others we have had, and those OLs have been fine.
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Ghoolie, our 5 guys couldnt block 4 and sonetimes struggled with 3 man rushes, they were pretty far from "fine". What team ever had to rush 8 men to get to a clev qb? Way overkill to rush that many, borders on cruel and unusual
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But can five men block eight men?
Why will no one address this?
Surely there must be someone available to pound and grind this point into the fucking ground every God damn thread... Preferably in ALL CAPS.
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My wish for this season: the 6th and 7th blockers [Njoku and DeValve] will do better work in both pass&run than we've had the last 3 years.
Those are the spots where our blocking has consistently failed -- the line wasn't great last year but even with Mack/Schwartz it was the non-OL perfecting the Ole blocks which torched our stats.
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Ghoolie, our 5 guys couldnt block 4 and sonetimes struggled with 3 man rushes, they were pretty far from "fine". What team ever had to rush 8 men to get to a clev qb? Way overkill to rush that many, borders on cruel and unusual
Ghoolie, our 5 guys couldnt block 4 and sonetimes struggled with 3 man rushes, they were pretty far from "fine".
Good luck Clev...I've tried...he has a mental block when it comes to how bad our OL has been since Mack's been gone.
He's so fixated on black Tarkenton and our QB situation that he can't see trying to fix the rest of the mess.
In my mind's eye I can still see the replay of a nose tackle faking left and jumping right, and right by Erving, untouched, tear-assing at the QB...who jumped straight to the ground. - That's how bad our OL was.
Now, the new guys on the OL are NOT rookies. They're a know quality. So, in theory, they should be able to gel with the existing guys in relatively short order. So again, in theory, the OL should be talented enough to support the skill players now. The OL will not however, turn hamburg into steak.
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The OL is the frame of the car... the chassis...
The OL whole can either be greater than the sum of the parts... or less than. We've proven the latter; time to work on the former. But with the exception of RT we know we now have the parts... all the parts. And y'all just have to trust me for now that we have the RT, too.
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But can five men block eight men?
Why will no one address this?
Surely there must be someone available to pound and grind this point into the fucking ground every God damn thread... Preferably in ALL CAPS.
But can five men block eight men?
Why will no one address this?
Surely there must be someone available to pound and grind this point into the fucking ground every God damn thread... Preferably in ALL CAPS.
5 men could cock block 8 men, provided those 8 men were trying to get laid in no more than 5 locations.
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So....here is a debate....is it better to have a golden boy QB....ala Andrew Luck....and to have a shit OL in front of him? (Indy ranked #22)....or to have a stolid OL...and have a mediocre QB behind them?
Luck has been on the shelf a lot due to injury....because he gets piss poor protection. The Browns may have a good OL...but who the fuck is going to play QB decently?
So....here is a debate....is it better to have a golden boy QB....ala Andrew Luck....and to have a shit OL in front of him? (Indy ranked #22)....or to have a stolid OL...and have a mediocre QB behind them?
Luck has been on the shelf a lot due to injury....because he gets piss poor protection. The Browns may have a good OL...but who the fuck is going to play QB decently?
I debated with you when Luck was drafted. I said then that Luck would get fucked up because he holds on to the ball too long. No offensive line can protect a QB who holds on to the ball. He's accurate, but no OL can protect this guy.
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Well,
look man, I am Happy that you guys are happy. Finally, this horseshit debate, of which you are all on the wrong side of the argument is going to be resolved. YOu are all saying that finally we have the OL we need.
So, if as you say the OL is so important, our shit QBs will magnificently turn into winners, we will have a potent offense and win a lot of games.
However, as you are going to see, the Browns 2017 offense will be worse than the 2016 version and this OL will look horrendous. No five men, not the greatest HOF fatasses of all time can make a difference in this horseshit team. No QB, WRs, TEs and a thin RB corps guarantee another year of dink and dump offense.
Either way, the debate over this OL bullshit will be resolved. Just don't come back here after 2- 14 +/- 1 win, I don't want to fucking hear.....
The OL needs fixed, it just was not the O line we thought.
You got the fucking line you want. You got black Tarkenton. If I am wrong, I'll eat corw. If you are wrong, you can eat your fatass OL talk.
The Cleveland Browns have the hardest hit players in the NFL -
Well,
look man, I am Happy that you guys are happy. Finally, this horseshit debate, of which you are all on the wrong side of the argument is going to be resolved. YOu are all saying that finally we have the OL we need.
So, if as you say the OL is so important, our shit QBs will magnificently turn into winners, we will have a potent offense and win a lot of games.
However, as you are going to see, the Browns 2017 offense will be worse than the 2016 version and this OL will look horrendous. No five men, not the greatest HOF fatasses of all time can make a difference in this horseshit team. No QB, WRs, TEs and a thin RB corps guarantee another year of dink and dump offense.
Either way, the debate over this OL bullshit will be resolved. Just don't come back here after 2- 14 +/- 1 win, I don't want to fucking hear.....
The OL needs fixed, it just was not the O line we thought.
You got the fucking line you want. You got black Tarkenton. If I am wrong, I'll eat corw. If you are wrong, you can eat your fatass OL talk.
I'll eat crow, pie, cake, 3 cheeseburgers, 1 large pizza, full rack of ribs, box of cookies, family size bag of Ruffles, 32 wings, gallon of ice cream, a dozen tacos, whatever is left on the plate of whoever I eat with, 6-pack of Coke, box of Ding Dongs, 6 foot sub and a salad.
Fixed it for ya ^
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Well,
look man, I am Happy that you guys are happy. Finally, this horseshit debate, of which you are all on the wrong side of the argument is going to be resolved. YOu are all saying that finally we have the OL we need.
So, if as you say the OL is so important, our shit QBs will magnificently turn into winners, we will have a potent offense and win a lot of games.
However, as you are going to see, the Browns 2017 offense will be worse than the 2016 version and this OL will look horrendous. No five men, not the greatest HOF fatasses of all time can make a difference in this horseshit team. No QB, WRs, TEs and a thin RB corps guarantee another year of dink and dump offense.
Either way, the debate over this OL bullshit will be resolved. Just don't come back here after 2- 14 +/- 1 win, I don't want to fucking hear.....
The OL needs fixed, it just was not the O line we thought.
You got the fucking line you want. You got black Tarkenton. If I am wrong, I'll eat corw. If you are wrong, you can eat your fatass OL talk.
So, if as you say the OL is so important, our shit QBs will magnificently turn into winners, we will have a potent offense and win a lot of games.
Who said that?
No, it won't turn hamburg into steak. (skill players)
If we show that we can't threaten DB's then they'll get the box loaded and there will be too many to block yes. But that's no reason not to add qualified players to the OL.
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Well,
look man, I am Happy that you guys are happy. Finally, this horseshit debate, of which you are all on the wrong side of the argument is going to be resolved. YOu are all saying that finally we have the OL we need.
So, if as you say the OL is so important, our shit QBs will magnificently turn into winners, we will have a potent offense and win a lot of games.
However, as you are going to see, the Browns 2017 offense will be worse than the 2016 version and this OL will look horrendous. No five men, not the greatest HOF fatasses of all time can make a difference in this horseshit team. No QB, WRs, TEs and a thin RB corps guarantee another year of dink and dump offense.
Either way, the debate over this OL bullshit will be resolved. Just don't come back here after 2- 14 +/- 1 win, I don't want to fucking hear.....
The OL needs fixed, it just was not the O line we thought.
You got the fucking line you want. You got black Tarkenton. If I am wrong, I'll eat corw. If you are wrong, you can eat your fatass OL talk.
However, as you are going to see, the Browns 2017 offense will be worse than the 2016 version and this OL will look horrendous. guarantee another year of dink and dump offense.
Dink & Dump even gets the ball out of Brady's hands quickly..Our so called dink & doink air raid offense still got browns sacked 66 times leading the league by 17 sacks..Aauull! Aauull! Crow-lie
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I'll eat crow, pie, cake, 3 cheeseburgers, 1 large pizza, full rack of ribs, box of cookies, family size bag of Ruffles, 32 wings, gallon of ice cream, a dozen tacos, whatever is left on the plate of whoever I eat with, 6-pack of Coke, box of Ding Dongs, 6 foot sub and a salad.
Fixed it for ya ^
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This o line talk before TC has even begun is insanely stupid.
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This o line talk before TC has even begun is insanely stupid.
This o line talk before TC has even begun is insanely stupid.
On a football chat board no less! What are these people thinking?!?
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This o line talk before TC has even begun is insanely stupid.
On a football chat board no less! What are these people thinking?!?
On a football chat board no less! What are these people thinking?!?
Talking about the o line is one thing, proclamations of aptitude is sonething different. Esprcially since pff tells us every year how awesome our o line is.
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Well...when you lead the league in getting your QB squished, ineptitude seems to be the logical answer.....
Cleveland gave up 66 sacks and 140 addl QB hits (thats 206 hits)....the second WORST team came in at 49 & 95.....
Compare this with Oakland at 18 and 41.....for 59 total hits....
qualifier....I do understand our QB's dont get the ball out.....and our WR's dont get open.....but I DID watch them play and the OL did not do their jobs well either.....and CERTAINLY did not do anything to earn #2 in the league(which PFF was professing last season too, iirc)
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Shit like this makes me laugh, I remember jus a few short years ago, and I mean recent, the same jackasses had our OL as "could be best in the NFL" so fuck their analysis until we see them play.
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