Two Tight End System?
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I would have preferred we keep barnidge to run those 2 TE sets.
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I would have preferred we keep barnidge to run those 2 TE sets.
I would have preferred we keep barnidge to run those 2 TE sets.
I was surprised to see him go so early, as I would think depth is good.....but do have a pretty good feeling for Devalve and Njoku......thinking Njoku could be a real score for us.....maybe our best pick
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i guess no one remembers bavarro as a brown. what are you all too young deaf and blind?
how about the helmet/concussion TD catch?
c'mon you stoops!!! fans my ass.
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I can't wait to see DeValve and Njoku emerge into productive TEs. That said, keeping DeValve healthy has been a challenge. This is his last 3 years at Princeton:
2013 9 Games
2014 3 Games
2015 5 Games
Not exactly a reflection of durability. His athleticism is very intriguing though. He made one catch in traffic last year where our QB hung him out to dry in a zone where ill-advised throws have been know to facilitate the kill-shots. The reason I say such a thing is, for a guy that's had a lot of injuries in the past, he had no fear going over the middle regardless of the throw.
Njoku, is really young. I think he's only 20; which is as old as OJ Howard was when OJ indicated he needed to return to another year at Alabama to improve upon his consistency with blocking. That really paid off. No reason the same can't be true for an elite athlete with a good frame like Njoku.
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I can't wait to see DeValve and Njoku emerge into productive TEs. That said, keeping DeValve healthy has been a challenge. This is his last 3 years at Princeton:
2013 9 Games
2014 3 Games
2015 5 Games
Not exactly a reflection of durability. His athleticism is very intriguing though. He made one catch in traffic last year where our QB hung him out to dry in a zone where ill-advised throws have been know to facilitate the kill-shots. The reason I say such a thing is, for a guy that's had a lot of injuries in the past, he had no fear going over the middle regardless of the throw.
Njoku, is really young. I think he's only 20; which is as old as OJ Howard was when OJ indicated he needed to return to another year at Alabama to improve upon his consistency with blocking. That really paid off. No reason the same can't be true for an elite athlete with a good frame like Njoku.
I can't wait to see DeValve and Njoku emerge into productive TEs. That said, keeping DeValve healthy has been a challenge. This is his last 3 years at Princeton:
2013 9 Games
2014 3 Games
2015 5 Games
Not exactly a reflection of durability. His athleticism is very intriguing though. He made one catch in traffic last year where our QB hung him out to dry in a zone where ill-advised throws have been know to facilitate the kill-shots. The reason I say such a thing is, for a guy that's had a lot of injuries in the past, he had no fear going over the middle regardless of the throw.
Njoku, is really young. I think he's only 20; which is as old as OJ Howard was when OJ indicated he needed to return to another year at Alabama to improve upon his consistency with blocking. That really paid off. No reason the same can't be true for an elite athlete with a good frame like Njoku.
I cant wait for this team to emerge with a real owner and a real QB room.
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i guess no one remembers bavarro as a brown. what are you all too young deaf and blind?
how about the helmet/concussion TD catch?
c'mon you stoops!!! fans my ass.
i guess no one remembers bavarro as a brown. what are you all too young deaf and blind?
how about the helmet/concussion TD catch?
c'mon you stoops!!! fans my ass.
Wow. Impressive trivia! I need to up my game. In my defense, I met my wife that year (1992).....didn't watch a lot of football if you get my drift...priorities baby.
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This seems like a conversation that has been had over the years. Shea and Heiden. Winslow and whoever was with Winslow. Jordan and Barnidge. Barnidge and whoever was with Barnidge...
I think there's far too much inexperience and blocking accumen with these guys to suggest they will be a better duo than Shea and Heiden.
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barnidge's name should not be even mentioned in same breath as newsome and bavarro.
jordan, winslow....????? HA!!!!!
thanks for the 3 years (each) of nothingness.
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This seems like a conversation that has been had over the years. Shea and Heiden. Winslow and whoever was with Winslow. Jordan and Barnidge. Barnidge and whoever was with Barnidge...
I think there's far too much inexperience and blocking accumen with these guys to suggest they will be a better duo than Shea and Heiden.
This seems like a conversation that has been had over the years. Shea and Heiden. Winslow and whoever was with Winslow. Jordan and Barnidge. Barnidge and whoever was with Barnidge...
I think there's far too much inexperience and blocking accumen with these guys to suggest they will be a better duo than Shea and Heiden.
Were Jordan and Barnidge ever on the team together?
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I can't wait to see DeValve and Njoku emerge into productive TEs. That said, keeping DeValve healthy has been a challenge. This is his last 3 years at Princeton:
2013 9 Games
2014 3 Games
2015 5 Games
Not exactly a reflection of durability. His athleticism is very intriguing though. He made one catch in traffic last year where our QB hung him out to dry in a zone where ill-advised throws have been know to facilitate the kill-shots. The reason I say such a thing is, for a guy that's had a lot of injuries in the past, he had no fear going over the middle regardless of the throw.
Njoku, is really young. I think he's only 20; which is as old as OJ Howard was when OJ indicated he needed to return to another year at Alabama to improve upon his consistency with blocking. That really paid off. No reason the same can't be true for an elite athlete with a good frame like Njoku.
I can't wait to see DeValve and Njoku emerge into productive TEs. That said, keeping DeValve healthy has been a challenge. This is his last 3 years at Princeton:
2013 9 Games
2014 3 Games
2015 5 Games
Sober Poet let me start with a Welcome Aboard the Browns Board of Madness. We share a love of the TE position. I was the TE at St. Johns HS at Toledo,Oh. when Rob Chudzinski just got to St.Johns. I failed my walk-on shot at TE at U of Toledo. 0 college TD's(killed it in spring ball with 4 TD's).. I was also at this years draft & was absolutely ecstatic with the Njoku pick. In a nutshell at TE we have 5 on roster all roughly 6'4" 250. Am lost with Seaman & Hue & the approach they see to use. Eifert or Gronk'ish? Barniage job was taken in Carolina by one of the best blockout defender TE's in Greg Olsen. Gary used it in Cleveland. Damn shame Olsen never gave Barney the secret to blocking. Seth DeValve tape at Princeton shows the same as 2 years with Browns. Seth plays with the Gronk reckless abandon but with no clue on how to protect his body taking falls or hits. Till Seth learns this league is not full of Princeton level talent, time in the tub is Seth's issue. Telfer maybe our best line blocker but his lisfrac foot made him a very slow passing weapon.In Ota's I hear Seaman likes the overall looks of Taylor McNamara. Leaving either JP Holtz or McNamara maybe crashing Telfer's roster spot? with Telfer being cut OR stashing McNamara/Holtz on PS with Telfer as a active? 3rd TE? With all TE juices flowing. I can't wait till pads are popping at TE.. Great (actual football)+1 post Sober
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This seems like a conversation that has been had over the years. Shea and Heiden. Winslow and whoever was with Winslow. Jordan and Barnidge. Barnidge and whoever was with Barnidge...
I think there's far too much inexperience and blocking accumen with these guys to suggest they will be a better duo than Shea and Heiden.
Were Jordan and Barnidge ever on the team together?
Were Jordan and Barnidge ever on the team together?
Yes. Cam was '11 to '14, Barn '13 to '16. Though really, until Barnidge's breakout year he seemed to be the "oh, he made the team again?" guy. I always assumed he was the good blocking TE because he never had great receiving stats until Cam split.
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Have to admit... I'd forgotten that Bavaro dropped in for a year with us. But given his impact...
On Barn... he had one great receiving year in a favorable system with a relatively weak WR corps and a QB with whom he seemed to share a brain. He was never a good blocker. While I appreciate the memory of him being the bright spot he was in 2015, he simply was not a part of our TE future.
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Have to admit... I'd forgotten that Bavaro dropped in for a year with us. But given his impact...
On Barn... he had one great receiving year in a favorable system with a relatively weak WR corps and a QB with whom he seemed to share a brain. He was never a good blocker. While I appreciate the memory of him being the bright spot he was in 2015, he simply was not a part of our TE future.
Have to admit... I'd forgotten that Bavaro dropped in for a year with us. But given his impact...
On Barn... he had one great receiving year in a favorable system with a relatively weak WR corps and a QB with whom he seemed to share a brain. He was never a good blocker. While I appreciate the memory of him being the bright spot he was in 2015, he simply was not a part of our TE future.
Well said Tour.
Keep in mind, after a career year in 2015 (that didn't resemble any other) with 9 TD receptions and something like 78 receptions - he got a hefty raise for it. Unfortunately, his reception volume decreased by about 23 receptions while he dropped to only 2 TD receptions in 2016 when he carried the bigger contract. To me, he looked like he was in pain when he was trying to get open last year. He may have only been 1 year older than he was in 2016 - but he ran at the speed of park at 31 years of age.
Prior to the draft my hope at #12 was OJ Howard. Having said that, I think the ceiling is just as high for Njoku and I like where we selected him in round 1. Late but early enough to prevent Pittsburgh from solidifying a very important prong of attack.
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Im thinking Njoku could be the better prospect(over Howard), but just didnt get the exposure of an Alabama or the opportunities, from his system, to rack up the same numbers......pretty excited about him......
Gotta add, that when Barny went all 1000 yds, in "his year", I pointed out that it was a 1 year aberration...only to be shot down by the sunshine crowd....but, right again.....
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Im thinking Njoku could be the better prospect(over Howard), but just didnt get the exposure of an Alabama or the opportunities, from his system, to rack up the same numbers......pretty excited about him......
Gotta add, that when Barny went all 1000 yds, in "his year", I pointed out that it was a 1 year aberration...only to be shot down by the sunshine crowd....but, right again.....
Im thinking Njoku could be the better prospect(over Howard), but just didnt get the exposure of an Alabama or the opportunities, from his system, to rack up the same numbers......pretty excited about him......
Gotta add, that when Barny went all 1000 yds, in "his year", I pointed out that it was a 1 year aberration...only to be shot down by the sunshine crowd....but, right again.....
Yep, good stuff Mud! And he's only 20 while Barnidge will be turning 32 this Fall.
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Im thinking Njoku could be the better prospect(over Howard), but just didnt get the exposure of an Alabama or the opportunities, from his system, to rack up the same numbers......pretty excited about him......
Gotta add, that when Barny went all 1000 yds, in "his year", I pointed out that it was a 1 year aberration...only to be shot down by the sunshine crowd....but, right again.....
Thanks, Flugs...
Im thinking Njoku could be the better prospect(over Howard), but just didnt get the exposure of an Alabama or the opportunities, from his system, to rack up the same numbers......pretty excited about him......
Gotta add, that when Barny went all 1000 yds, in "his year", I pointed out that it was a 1 year aberration...only to be shot down by the sunshine crowd....but, right again.....
Pretty sure I was not one of the "shooters"...
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Have to admit... I'd forgotten that Bavaro dropped in for a year with us. But given his impact...
On Barn... he had one great receiving year in a favorable system with a relatively weak WR corps and a QB with whom he seemed to share a brain. He was never a good blocker. While I appreciate the memory of him being the bright spot he was in 2015, he simply was not a part of our TE future.
Have to admit... I'd forgotten that Bavaro dropped in for a year with us.
Part of him did. Bavaro only had 25 catches for 315 yards and 2 TDs in 16 games; and he wasn't healthy enough to practice in between games. It was still pretty cool to see in him a Browns uniform though. It was also great to see Pepper Johnson and Carl Banks in a Browns uniform.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
Have to admit... I'd forgotten that Bavaro dropped in for a year with us.
Part of him did. Bavaro only had 25 catches for 315 yards and 2 TDs in 16 games; and he wasn't healthy enough to practice in between games. It was still pretty cool to see in him a Browns uniform though. It was also great to see Pepper Johnson and Carl Banks in a Browns uniform.
Not to mention RB Joe Morris.Part of him did. Bavaro only had 25 catches for 315 yards and 2 TDs in 16 games; and he wasn't healthy enough to practice in between games. It was still pretty cool to see in him a Browns uniform though. It was also great to see Pepper Johnson and Carl Banks in a Browns uniform.
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