HOF Weekend
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Yes they were announced previously
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Oh yes all games are finalized as soon as possible so the logistics of ticket sales, reservations and all of that can occur.Yes they were announced previously
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And how about that 2018 eligibility list, a few former BROWNS there but who are the serious contenders like Randy Moss?
All in all a somewhat weak class.
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Unofficial quickie poll I plan on:
A. Watching the game and induction speeches
B. Watch 100% of the game
C. Might watch part of the game
D. Go night fishing
Does the Thursday game make a difference to you versus the weekend?
GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
I'll be watching I'm actually taking the day off to enjoy the tv programming.
As far as the game the Cards And Cowgirls won't be playing any starters but still it gives each team more looks and reps to the bubble players.
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I need my football fix. I'll watch whatever I can
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HEY FOOTBALL NEWS!
The Hall of Fame has picked opponents for its annual preseason showdown.
The Dallas Cowboys will face the Arizona Cardinals on Thursday, August 3, 2017, at the new Tom Benson Hall of Fame Stadium in Canton, Ohio.
The choice of teams makes plenty of sense, with former Cardinals quarterback Kurt Warner and Cowboys owner and general manager Jerry Jones both set to be enshrined into the Hall.
The rest of this year's class includes running backs Terrell Davis and LaDainian Tomlinson, pass-rusher Jason Taylor, safety Kenny Easley and kicker Morten Andersen.
---> This year's tilt will kick off on Thursday for the first time in NFL history..... NFL HOF SITE
The choice of teams makes plenty of sense, with former Cardinals quarterback Kurt Warner and Cowboys owner and general manager Jerry Jones both set to be enshrined into the Hall.
The rest of this year's class includes running backs Terrell Davis and LaDainian Tomlinson, pass-rusher Jason Taylor, safety Kenny Easley and kicker Morten Andersen.
Not one guy on this list has any chance of keeping me awake in any speech ceremony
..Glad LT got in, but a snoozer to listen to..Hey Jerry your Cowboys Suck..Game Day? Sure as the sun will raise, Am Watching..Hey & we get Phil Dawson now a Cardinal..Who am I Cardinal watching? Carolina Connection DE Kareem Martin.RB's-Chris Johnson,TJ Logan,converted ECU QB James Summers. Few X-Brownies OG Kaleb Johnson,DT-Frostee Rucker,LB-Scooby Wright,PK-Awesome Dawson. A rookie look at LB-Haason Reddick & OT Cole Toner..As for them Cowgals? How bout them X-Brownies! OG-Johnathan Cooper,TE-Connor Hamlett(or not to be)NT-Stephen Paea,CB-Leon McFadden..Great to see Jaylon Smith back on any football field. For some rookies DE-Taco Charlton,WR Ryan Switzer & OT Nate Theaker should be fun to watch..No Dallas Cowchick Cheerleaders were stalked in this free game preview..(yet) but put the skin on da T please -
Unofficial quickie poll I plan on:
A. Watching the game and induction speeches
B. Watch 100% of the game
C. Might watch part of the game
D. Go night fishing
Does the Thursday game make a difference to you versus the weekend?
Oh I'm always an A. here being a retired sports junkie. I like the speeches although they are way more scripted now versus the old run on forever ones....some quite moving and memorable, remember Michael Irvin?Unofficial quickie poll I plan on:
A. Watching the game and induction speeches
B. Watch 100% of the game
C. Might watch part of the game
D. Go night fishing
Does the Thursday game make a difference to you versus the weekend?
And the game is in our backyard in an updated high school stadium that I played in in the 1960s, yeah more Ohio football memories.
Oh our company did the steel on a few Canton HOF expansions, talk about a land locked site, never envisioned it being that big or successful.....no strategic planning there.
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Oh I'm always an A. here being a retired sports junkie. I like the speeches although they are way more scripted now versus the old run on forever ones....some quite moving and memorable, remember Michael Irvin?Unofficial quickie poll I plan on:
A. Watching the game and induction speeches
B. Watch 100% of the game
C. Might watch part of the game
D. Go night fishing
Does the Thursday game make a difference to you versus the weekend?
And the game is in our backyard in an updated high school stadium that I played in in the 1960s, yeah more Ohio football memories.
Oh our company did the steel on a few Canton HOF expansions, talk about a land locked site, never envisioned it being that big or successful.....no strategic planning there.
Oh our company did the steel on a few Canton HOF expansions, talk about a land locked site, never envisioned it that being that big or successful.....no strategic planning there.
What was the total completion target date & possible nfl draft year at HOF? is hotel/road access growth a possible hold-up for a draft?
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Oh our company did the steel on a few Canton HOF expansions, talk about a land locked site, never envisioned it that being that big or successful.....no strategic planning there.
What was the total completion target date & possible nfl draft year at HOF? is hotel/road access growth a possible hold-up for a draft?
I've been in and around the steel business most of my working career but have been retired on a disability now for awhile.What was the total completion target date & possible nfl draft year at HOF? is hotel/road access growth a possible hold-up for a draft?
I started in basic steel making it, rolling mills and my last job the steel joist, girders, deck and related supplies for industrial and commercial uses everything from malls to high rise buildings.
But on the current Canton HOF expansion check out:
http://www.profootballhof.com/jcihofvillage/
Hall of Fame Museum
State-of-the-art technology will be infused into the world-class sports museum starting with a spectacular A Game for Life immersive holographic theater which opened in July, 2016.
Tom Benson Hall of Fame Stadium
The venue will be a spectacular sports and entertainment complex that will include a permanent stage built into the stands.
Phase I - Completed: Summer 2016
Phase II - Completion: Summer 2017
Phase III - Completion: Summer 2018
Black College Football Hall of Fame
A permanent home to tell the stories of the greatest football players, coaches and contributors from Historically Black Colleges and Universities.
Completion: 2019
National Youth Football & Sports Complex
Eight state-of-the-art turf fields that will be multi-purposed, lighted and equipped with the latest technology and video capabilities. The sports complex will include full world-class amenities, a football sized concourse area and a championship field with 3,000 seats. Three fields opened in 2016, will grow to five in 2017 and the complex will be completed in spring of 2018.
Phase I - Completed
Phase II - Completion: Spring 2017
Phase III - Completion: Spring 2018
Four-Star Hotel & Conference Center
A spectacular, one-of-kind, football-themed, upscale hotel and includes a 25,000 square-foot conference center.
Completion: 2019
.....MORE AT SITE.......
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Unofficial quickie poll I plan on:
A. Watching the game and induction speeches
B. Watch 100% of the game
C. Might watch part of the game
D. Go night fishing
Does the Thursday game make a difference to you versus the weekend?
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I don't know exactly when they're finalized.Aren't these announced with the schedule?
2018
Pro Football Hall of Fame, Canton, OH
We are accepting fully refundable, no obligation, $200 per person deposits.
Players Newly Eligible in 2018: Antoine Winfield, Bart Scott, Brandon Moore, Braylon Edwards, Brendon Ayanbadejo, Brian Jennings, Brian Urlacher, Casey Hampton, Chris Cooley, Chris Hope, Donald Driver, James Farrior, Jammal Brown, Jason Hanson, Jeff Saturday, Keith Brooking, Kyle Vanden Bosch, Leonard Davis, Marcus Trufant, Matt Birk, Michael Turner, Nate Clements, Nate Kaeding, Ray Lewis, Randy Moss, Richard Seymour, Ronde Barber, Shawne Merriman, Steve Hutchinson, Takeo Spikes, Todd Heap.
Final Itinerary and Pricing Coming Soon.
Dates/itinerary/rates are subject to change until trip is finalized. Previous dates/itinerary/rates may appear simply for illustrative purposes if new dates are not yet available.
A fully-refundable deposit will secure your reservation and guarantee you are contacted with the option to book before the trip is available to the general public.
I don't know exactly when they're finalized.
2018
Pro Football Hall of Fame, Canton, OH
We are accepting fully refundable, no obligation, $200 per person deposits.
Players Newly Eligible in 2018: Antoine Winfield, Bart Scott, Brandon Moore, Braylon Edwards, Brendon Ayanbadejo, Brian Jennings, Brian Urlacher, Casey Hampton, Chris Cooley, Chris Hope, Donald Driver, James Farrior, Jammal Brown, Jason Hanson, Jeff Saturday, Keith Brooking, Kyle Vanden Bosch, Leonard Davis, Marcus Trufant, Matt Birk, Michael Turner, Nate Clements, Nate Kaeding, Ray Lewis, Randy Moss, Richard Seymour, Ronde Barber, Shawne Merriman, Steve Hutchinson, Takeo Spikes, Todd Heap.
Final Itinerary and Pricing Coming Soon.
Dates/itinerary/rates are subject to change until trip is finalized. Previous dates/itinerary/rates may appear simply for illustrative purposes if new dates are not yet available.
A fully-refundable deposit will secure your reservation and guarantee you are contacted with the option to book before the trip is available to the general public.
Best bets for induction next year for first timers are guys that I have highlighted above. Under normal circumstances I think Ray Lewis and Randy Moss would be sure fire first ballot HOFers. But, some off field issues exist with Lewis (like questions over a double homicide)...and with Moss it was whether or not he truly did his best at times.
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Both Lewis and Moss are shoo-ins along with Urlacher and Hutchinson...
At the opposite end of the spectrum are a number of "Really? Him?" eligibles... and even a couple "Who?"
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Both Lewis and Moss are shoo-ins along with Urlacher and Hutchinson...
At the opposite end of the spectrum are a number of "Really? Him?" eligibles... and even a couple "Who?"
Both Lewis and Moss are shoo-ins along with Urlacher and Hutchinson...
At the opposite end of the spectrum are a number of "Really? Him?" eligibles... and even a couple "Who?"
....."this guy here is dead. Well then cross him off the list" -MAJOR LEAGUE
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....."this guy here is dead. Well then cross him off the list" -MAJOR LEAGUE
You referring to Ray Ray's potential victims? Tour says he is a shoe-in. Normally I would say "no doubt"....and supposedly "off field" matters are not supposed to play any part in the HOF selection process (aren't they?)....but....I still say that perhaps a sufficient number of the voters could still give Lewis a "time out" on his HOF induction because of the suspicion of his involvement in those deaths.
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....."this guy here is dead. Well then cross him off the list" -MAJOR LEAGUE
You referring to Ray Ray's potential victims? Tour says he is a shoe-in. Normally I would say "no doubt"....and supposedly "off field" matters are not supposed to play any part in the HOF selection process (aren't they?)....but....I still say that perhaps a sufficient number of the voters could still give Lewis a "time out" on his HOF induction because of the suspicion of his involvement in those deaths.
You referring to Ray Ray's potential victims? Tour says he is a shoe-in. Normally I would say "no doubt"....and supposedly "off field" matters are not supposed to play any part in the HOF selection process (aren't they?)....but....I still say that perhaps a sufficient number of the voters could still give Lewis a "time out" on his HOF induction because of the suspicion of his involvement in those deaths.
Does character matter for HOF consideration at all? MLB somewhat thinks so. Good luck year one there with "flaws" in your background the way their balloting goes.
But with this 2018 class 1. Moss 2. Lewis? 3. Everyone else.
GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
You referring to Ray Ray's potential victims? Tour says he is a shoe-in. Normally I would say "no doubt"....and supposedly "off field" matters are not supposed to play any part in the HOF selection process (aren't they?)....but....I still say that perhaps a sufficient number of the voters could still give Lewis a "time out" on his HOF induction because of the suspicion of his involvement in those deaths.
Does character matter for HOF consideration at all? MLB somewhat thinks so. Good luck year one there with "flaws" in your background the way their balloting goes.
But with this 2018 class 1. Moss 2. Lewis? 3. Everyone else.
Does character matter for HOF consideration at all? MLB somewhat thinks so. Good luck year one there with "flaws" in your background the way their balloting goes.
But with this 2018 class 1. Moss 2. Lewis? 3. Everyone else.
Lets put it this way: does character matter? Perhaps not in the written rules of HOF voting procedure....but do you think it does not come into play when those guys cast their ballots?
Think about Terrell Owens. About as good of HOF credentials as you can get...yet he has been waiting for 2 years now simply because he has been viewed as a bit of an asshole to his teammates. What else is there? And think about the OJ situation.
I think these voters may exercise some conservatism when it comes to things like this.
Lewis...no doubt, based on on field performance is first ballot material.
Nevertheless.....Hello!
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You referring to Ray Ray's potential victims? Tour says he is a shoe-in. Normally I would say "no doubt"....and supposedly "off field" matters are not supposed to play any part in the HOF selection process (aren't they?)....but....I still say that perhaps a sufficient number of the voters could still give Lewis a "time out" on his HOF induction because of the suspicion of his involvement in those deaths.
Does character matter for HOF consideration at all? MLB somewhat thinks so. Good luck year one there with "flaws" in your background the way their balloting goes.
But with this 2018 class 1. Moss 2. Lewis? 3. Everyone else.
Almost 18 years worth of water under Ray's bridge... not going to hold back the 1st-ballot election when he is in the discussion of the greatest to ever play his position... especially considering his charitable work.
T.O.? "Bit of an ass-hole" is being pretty generous. His team disruption led more than one to judge his talent as just not being worth the trouble. They drew a different conclusion for Moss. One is in his position's GOAT convo... one is not.
Not following the OJ reference... he was inducted in '85.
Does character matter for HOF consideration at all? MLB somewhat thinks so. Good luck year one there with "flaws" in your background the way their balloting goes.
MLB HoF Guardians seems to primarily concern themselves with players who have chemically enhanced their performance with gamblers a close second.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Almost 18 years worth of water under Ray's bridge... not going to hold back the 1st-ballot election when he is in the discussion of the greatest to ever play his position... especially considering his charitable work.
T.O.? "Bit of an ass-hole" is being pretty generous. His team disruption led more than one to judge his talent as just not being worth the trouble. They drew a different conclusion for Moss. One is in his position's GOAT convo... one is not.
Not following the OJ reference... he was inducted in '85.
Does character matter for HOF consideration at all? MLB somewhat thinks so. Good luck year one there with "flaws" in your background the way their balloting goes.
MLB HoF Guardians seems to primarily concern themselves with players who have chemically enhanced their performance with gamblers a close second.
Almost 18 years worth of water under Ray's bridge... not going to hold back the 1st-ballot election when he is in the discussion of the greatest to ever play his position... especially considering his charitable work.
So, doing charitable work (perhaps to atone for his role in a double homicide) and being a great football player trumps concerns about his role in those murders? We shall see this coming January when it is time for the debate on the selections to come up.
T.O.? "Bit of an ass-hole" is being pretty generous. His team disruption led more than one to judge his talent as just not being worth the trouble. They drew a different conclusion for Moss. One is in his position's GOAT convo... one is not.
T.O. actual numbers are as good as Moss:
Receptions:
T.O. 1078 #8
Moss 982 #15
TDs:
T.O. 153 #3
Moss 156 #2
Yards:
T.O. 15934 #2
Moss 15292 #3
Not following the OJ reference... he was inducted in '85.
Yes, but...if the accusations against him had come out prior to his induction...what would that have done to his chances of making it? They don't take people out...but I have heard some...even HOF electors say that they would like to.
MLB HoF Guardians seems to primarily concern themselves with players who have chemically enhanced their performance with gamblers a close second.
And murder...a distance what? 3rd? or further down?
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I doubt there is significant concern over Ray's "role" in something for which he was never tried.
Numbers don't automatically determine GOAT discussion inclusion or exclusion.
Safe to assume OJ would have hurt his chances.
MLB statement was in contrast to NFL, who has both the enhanced and gamblers in their HoF. I'm pretty sure both sports' voters would hold a murder conviction against a nominee.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I doubt there is significant concern over Ray's "role" in something for which he was never tried.
Numbers don't automatically determine GOAT discussion inclusion or exclusion.
Safe to assume OJ would have hurt his chances.
MLB statement was in contrast to NFL, who has both the enhanced and gamblers in their HoF. I'm pretty sure both sports' voters would hold a murder conviction against a nominee.
I doubt there is significant concern over Ray's "role" in something for which he was never tried.
We shall see. I seem to recall one time that Tony Grossi.....a HOF voter, brought up the possibility at some point that this thing could be held over him.
Numbers don't automatically determine GOAT discussion inclusion or exclusion.
Not automatically....but in THIS case I think it is fair to look at them....because these guys are contemporaries. They played in the same era. If you were talking Don Hutson vs. Randy Moss, that is one thing. But at times these guys were on the same field opposite each other.
But...lets end the argument: Neither is the GOAT. Neither has the numbers that Jerry Rice has. Neither had the work ethic that Jerry Rice had. (work ethic being Moss's biggest critique), Rice had no issues with his teammates...like T.O. had.
Rice IS the GOAT....case closed!!!
Safe to assume OJ would have hurt his chances.
MLB statement was in contrast to NFL, who has both the enhanced and gamblers in their HoF. I'm pretty sure both sports' voters would hold a murder conviction against a nominee.
Steroids is practically irrelevent to Pro Football HOF voters. Gambling? It didn't keep Paul Hornung out....but did it keep Alex Karras out? Not likely...he was borderline anyway....even though he should be in just for being Mongo!!
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