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I need to see preseason games
Stop being sensible.
Every year...from May to August...our team is vastly improved. The new guys are great and the old guys are better.
THEN WE PLAY A PRESEASON GAME. And we all come crashing back down to earth. "We've got some things to clean up."
THEN we play a regular season game...and it's 'Holy shit. We suck.'
I think I read that it's been 13 years since we've won on opening day. - It feels longer than that.
I said at the top of this thread, We'll only go as far as our QB can take us. And that's been pretty much true since our return. (except for the year that Dennis Northcutt dropped an EASY pass to keep us from winning our only playoff game)
What up, Mike...
I've been more in the Kizer-later Camp, but have moved his 1st start up from Game 13 to Game 9, following the bye. Trying to strike a balance between getting him ready and seeing enough to evaluate him in live action. But if his progress being reported is real and continues, you may end up being right about Week 1.
Osweiler's a tricky one... have to get him enough reps, good reps, to enhance his trade value without winning over our fan base.
Going to be an interesting camp.
I said at the top of this thread, We'll only go as far as our QB can take us. And that's been pretty much true since our return. (except for the year that Dennis Northcutt dropped an EASY pass to keep us from winning our only playoff game)
Really not sure when that last applied to us. We've had so many limiting factors since our return and they've not all been addressed going into 2017.
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Kizer should start the most games this year, if not all of them -- Can't really say all of them for a Browns QB, but yeah, if he's healthy he should. I think he will start Wk1 because he has more talent than Kessler, and Osweiler isn't in their plans.
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From what I saw at training camp, the QB race is a two horse race and Kessler is still stuck in his stall. Brock is ahead of all three, Kizer not too far behind. I could see Kizer passing Brock by the end of preseason. Kessler is still holding the ball too damn long. Brock throws are tight and on a rope with on time delivery. Kizer sails a few but get the majority where they need to be.
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I think Osweiler is trade bait, Kessler is too small and won't stay healthy. I predict Kizer is the starter long before the bye week. But it's too soon for a serious discussion considering Hue Jackson hasn't got a clue either.
I need to see preseason games
I still remember when Isiah Crowell came out of nowhere in the fourth preseason game his rookie year and he was undrafted.
Anything can happen!
GO BROWNS??? 8-8
I think Osweiler is trade bait, Kessler is too small and won't stay healthy. I predict Kizer is the starter long before the bye week. But it's too soon for a serious discussion considering Hue Jackson hasn't got a clue either.
I need to see preseason games
I still remember when Isiah Crowell came out of nowhere in the fourth preseason game his rookie year and he was undrafted.
Anything can happen!
GO BROWNS 8-8
but didn't crow get into some kind of trouble in collage ? as to why he was not drafted
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From what I saw at training camp, the QB race is a two horse race and Kessler is still stuck in his stall. Brock is ahead of all three, Kizer not too far behind. I could see Kizer passing Brock by the end of preseason. Kessler is still holding the ball too damn long. Brock throws are tight and on a rope with on time delivery. Kizer sails a few but get the majority where they need to be.
Thanks for the report from the trenches.From what I saw at training camp, the QB race is a two horse race and Kessler is still stuck in his stall. Brock is ahead of all three, Kizer not too far behind. I could see Kizer passing Brock by the end of preseason. Kessler is still holding the ball too damn long. Brock throws are tight and on a rope with on time delivery. Kizer sails a few but get the majority where they need to be.
How many practices did you observe? Haven't heard many say Osweiler in the lead
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I think Osweiler is trade bait, Kessler is too small and won't stay healthy. I predict Kizer is the starter long before the bye week. But it's too soon for a serious discussion considering Hue Jackson hasn't got a clue either.
I need to see preseason games
I still remember when Isiah Crowell came out of nowhere in the fourth preseason game his rookie year and he was undrafted.
Anything can happen!
GO BROWNS 8-8
but didn't crow get into some kind of trouble in collage ? as to why he was not drafted
but didn't crow get into some kind of trouble in collage ? as to why he was not drafted
Yup...
Started at UGA... failed drug test... then arrested on felony "weapons charges". UGA kicked him. Charges were dropped later. Finished at Alabama State.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Kizer should start the most games this year, if not all of them -- Can't really say all of them for a Browns QB, but yeah, if he's healthy he should. I think he will start Wk1 because he has more talent than Kessler, and Osweiler isn't in their plans.
Kizer should start the most games this year, if not all of them -- Can't really say all of them for a Browns QB, but yeah, if he's healthy he should. I think he will start Wk1 because he has more talent than Kessler, and Osweiler isn't in their plans.
I go back to what I learned in law school about a portion of the Rule against Perpetuities: I take a Wait and See Approach.
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Yup...
Started at UGA... failed drug test... then arrested on felony "weapons charges". UGA kicked him. Charges were dropped later. Finished at Alabama State.
Even still he was regarded as a good pick up for a udfa that year, making a "top 5 udfa this year" type of list. If memory serves he didn't see a lot of action in preseason games 1-3 his first year, but then l guess the team got a good enough look at the other RBs by the time the 4th game came around and gave him a shot.
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The Brown and Orange scrimmage will be very telling, and will give us information on what I call “step one” of the QB process. I personally think that the QB who performs the best at the scrimmage will be the guy who begins the PRESEASON as the starter. Obviously step two will be the preseason, and the top performer after the first two games will probably be the guy we roll with for the pivotal third preseason game, and then onto the epic beat down, otherwise known as “the season opener”.
There are several reports floating around that say Kizer is “narrowing the gap” on the competition, and if that trend continues, we very well may have a rookie starting against the Steelers. The idea of putting a rookie in for the season opener is something that makes me want to vomit, but hey….gotta start somewhere, right? I fully expect Kizer to struggle somewhat in the scrimmage, mainly because I feel our defense is way ahead of the offense, which is normal. Our receivers also aren’t very good, and I don’t expect David Njoku to play because of a recent back strain.
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Kizer should start the most games this year, if not all of them -- Can't really say all of them for a Browns QB, but yeah, if he's healthy he should. I think he will start Wk1 because he has more talent than Kessler, and Osweiler isn't in their plans.
I go back to what I learned in law school about a portion of the Rule against Perpetuities: I take a Wait and See Approach.
I go back to what I learned in law school about a portion of the Rule against Perpetuities: I take a Wait and See Approach.
I'm in law school.
Your wait is over.
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I go back to what I learned in law school about a portion of the Rule against Perpetuities: I take a Wait and See Approach.
I'm in law school.
Your wait is over.
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I go back to what I learned in law school about a portion of the Rule against Perpetuities: I take a Wait and See Approach.
I'm in law school.
Your wait is over.
I'm in law school.
Your wait is over.
Not so fast my friend. The testator is not dead yet.
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Does it feel like a perpetuity yet?
Rule of Perpetuity: The Browns....in perpetuity...will be looking for a franchise QB.
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Does it feel like a perpetuity yet?
Rule of Perpetuity: The Browns....in perpetuity...will be looking for a franchise QB.
Rule of Perpetuity: The Browns....in perpetuity...will be looking for a franchise QB.
That makes my perpetuity gland hurt.
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Not so fast my friend. The testator is not dead yet.
Ok how about now?
Here's my favorite quote from today's conference call:
And yes, I quoted myself, because most beat writers do not agree with this perspective and didn't report it was said. I was on the call and have the transcript.
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Speaking of QBs...
Given Stafford's mega-deal, I think owners are going to have to revisit the idea of pulling QBs out from under the team cap... something they raised a few years ago at a league meeting.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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