Terrell Davis: The Big Pussy
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I will say this, and as much as it irritates the purist fan, A SB ring, SB MVP, SB accolades will, without fail propel a player far above better players who never got those accolades and trophies.
Music is the same way. Clapton, a great songwriter, performer and singer, is at best, a modest and very average guitar player. Yet, I guarantee you a bunch of people (mostly with no musical training) are going to jump in and say what a great guitarist he is. But he isn't. His shit is simple. Doesn't matter, he had a boost from the very beginning because of who he played with and when he played. Again, HOF performer, songwriter? No debate.
Guitar wizard? Fuck, man, he can't play. Steve Lukather? Now THAT is a bad, bad motherfucker. Can play better than Clapton using his nutsack.........but it doesn't matter. Some jackoffs believe the hype.
Terrell Davis? If he played the guitar he would be Clapton or BB King.
Django, Atkins, Tedesco, Knoppfler, Jerry Reed, Hellecasters, Vai, Satriani, Van Halen, Joe Pass, Pizzarelli, Travis....NOW you are talking guitar.
First football, then guitar. That SB crap is why all them thar Steelers are in the HOF. I freaking guarantee you if Clay Matthews had played in Shitsburgh- he'd have been in- long ago.
And regarding guitar you forgot my left handed Idol Tom. Jimi H. Sloppy? Sure. Incredible reach, lightning fast, master of electronic shit. No one even attempted to cover his stuff in public until Stevie Ray Vaughn came along.
First football, then guitar. That SB crap is why all them thar Steelers are in the HOF. I freaking guarantee you if Clay Matthews had played in Shitsburgh- he'd have been in- long ago.
Bingo. Clay and Hanford Dixon should be in Canton.
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Mahogany Rush - Strange Universe one of my all time favorites.
mahogany rush live one of my first albums bought.
drangonfly is the shit!!
busting the shit outta of that SG
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Actually until his first knee injury he averaged 1900 yds per year and is the Broncos all-time leading rusher. Pro bowl 3 of those 4 seasons. Injuries kept him from being one of the best ever in what amounted to a 4 year career. Not bad for a 6th rounder.
Actually until his first knee injury he averaged 1900 yds per year and is the Broncos all-time leading rusher. Pro bowl 3 of those 4 seasons. Injuries kept him from being one of the best ever in what amounted to a 4 year career. Not bad for a 6th rounder.
Right.....dude took the league by storm....If Gayle Sayers gets in, then TD should get in too.....
So...is Chris Johnson HOF material? Same difference other than the ring but minus the o line.
Davis is 3rd....all-time.....in yards per game played......3rd.....
Jim Brown = 104 ypg
Barry Sanders = 99.8 ypg
Terrell Davis = 97.5 ypg.......
Thats the best of the best, while on the field......
Chris Johnson isnt 4th...or 10th....or 20th ftm......75 ypg......= not the same....
Zombo said:
For a two or or three year period he was the Most Valuable running back I have ever seen.
Zombo
Agree 100%......6500 yds in his first 4 years.....with each year getting better.....thats a whole career for some good backs....
Someone here said he had "a" good year?.....really?....."a" good year?
yr 1) 1117
yr 2) 1538
yr 3) 1750
yr 4) 2008
looks like 4 good years to me....
Anyone that is only 1 step behind Barry Sanders and Jim Brown gets my HOF vote for sure.....
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Zombo said:
Clapton plays a very good guitar and named Prince as the Greatest guitar player he has ever seen.
Here is the list of guys that ran for 2000 yards in the NFL and helped their team win a Super Bowl:
Terrell Davis.
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Yep on Davis and I'm also putting in my vote for Stevie Ray who operated out of Asstin, Tx. 2015 R&R HOF inductee.
Yep on Davis and I'm also putting in my vote for Stevie Ray who operated out of Asstin, Tx. 2015 R&R HOF inductee.
hell I would take another guy from Austin over Clapton,,,Roky Erickson
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What do you think about the Late Alvin Lee of "Ten Years After"??
He was a nice player. Very nice player.Under-heralded. He played some tasteful things.
Regarding Clapton. I never said he sucked, he just isn't that good. Overall, very talented. He couldn't make a living as a studio guitar player. That's the point. He would shit his pants as a studio player.
He was a nice player. Very nice player.Under-heralded. He played some tasteful things.
Regarding Clapton. I never said he sucked, he just isn't that good. Overall, very talented. He couldn't make a living as a studio guitar player. That's the point. He would shit his pants as a studio player.
fuck man as a session guy I would take john paul jones over him
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The one and only.
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There's guys on YouTube right now that nobody has ever heard of that make the guitar greats of yesteryear look like rank Amateurs. Just like there were guys in their own time that no one ever heard of that blew them out of the water. That's why I never bother with the "goat of guitar" discussions.
This shit ain't nothing to me, man. -
There's guys on YouTube right now that nobody has ever heard of that make the guitar greats of yesteryear look like rank Amateurs. Just like there were guys in their own time that no one ever heard of that blew them out of the water. That's why I never bother with the "goat of guitar" discussions.
There's guys on YouTube right now that nobody has ever heard of that make the guitar greats of yesteryear look like rank Amateurs. Just like there were guys in their own time that no one ever heard of that blew them out of the water. That's why I never bother with the "goat of guitar" discussions.
If there is "the ONE".. I'd put Allan Holdsworth at the top of the list.. The way he uses the whole tone scale is on another level of genius on the highest order.
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Talking guitar players, I saw Brian Setzer last night. Freakin dude brings it... Had no idea how good he is!?!?!?!?!?
Like your list... I'd add Hendrix.
Setzer is indeed good. Very versitile. Always liked the guy.
Setzer is indeed good. Very versitile. Always liked the guy.
Since I went to see him live again last night- What's your opinion of Lindsey Buckingham? MHO- under rated. (not in anyone's top 10, but very good) Fer sure, The Mac had some of the best songwriting talent short of the Beatles and maybe the Stones.
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There's guys on YouTube right now that nobody has ever heard of that make the guitar greats of yesteryear look like rank Amateurs. Just like there were guys in their own time that no one ever heard of that blew them out of the water. That's why I never bother with the "goat of guitar" discussions.
There's guys on YouTube right now that nobody has ever heard of that make the guitar greats of yesteryear look like rank Amateurs. Just like there were guys in their own time that no one ever heard of that blew them out of the water. That's why I never bother with the "goat of guitar" discussions.
You got that right- forgot where I saw a guy do a speed demon demo on YouTube. And me and Ghoolie have been down the road discussing this youngster when she was 16. If you like, skip to the 2 minute mark and watch a perfect cover of Van Halen's Eruption.
As Tom pointed out- it doesn't matter if you can play anything, the guys raking in the big bucks are the great songwriters. John Fogarty is a so-so guitar player- but man, can he write songs.
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Fantastic for 3 years only played 4, not a HOFer
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Setzer is indeed good. Very versitile. Always liked the guy.
Since I went to see him live again last night- What's your opinion of Lindsey Buckingham? MHO- under rated. (not in anyone's top 10, but very good) Fer sure, The Mac had some of the best songwriting talent short of the Beatles and maybe the Stones.
Since I went to see him live again last night- What's your opinion of Lindsey Buckingham? MHO- under rated. (not in anyone's top 10, but very good) Fer sure, The Mac had some of the best songwriting talent short of the Beatles and maybe the Stones.
Another nice player. He was melodic and his junk always embellished songs. I wouldn't call him a technically masterfull player, but his sense of composition and arrangement was very very good. Elliot Easton was another very good musical guitarist.
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There's guys on YouTube right now that nobody has ever heard of that make the guitar greats of yesteryear look like rank Amateurs. Just like there were guys in their own time that no one ever heard of that blew them out of the water. That's why I never bother with the "goat of guitar" discussions.
You got that right- forgot where I saw a guy do a speed demon demo on YouTube. And me and Ghoolie have been down the road discussing this youngster when she was 16. If you like, skip to the 2 minute mark and watch a perfect cover of Van Halen's Eruption.
As Tom pointed out- it doesn't matter if you can play anything, the guys raking in the big bucks are the great songwriters. John Fogarty is a so-so guitar player- but man, can he write songs.
You got that right- forgot where I saw a guy do a speed demon demo on YouTube. And me and Ghoolie have been down the road discussing this youngster when she was 16. If you like, skip to the 2 minute mark and watch a perfect cover of Van Halen's Eruption.
As Tom pointed out- it doesn't matter if you can play anything, the guys raking in the big bucks are the great songwriters. John Fogarty is a so-so guitar player- but man, can he write songs.
Once this chick gets hair on her snatch she is really gonna be something.
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Fantastic for 3 years only played 4, not a HOFer
Fantastic for 3 years only played 4, not a HOFer
Yes, he is. He was inducted Saturday (I assuming you mean Terrelle Davis). You are either pregnant or you're not. He is pregnant.
(whether you believe it is warranted is another matter.....but in the opinion of those who count...it was warranted)
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There's guys on YouTube right now that nobody has ever heard of that make the guitar greats of yesteryear look like rank Amateurs. Just like there were guys in their own time that no one ever heard of that blew them out of the water. That's why I never bother with the "goat of guitar" discussions.
You got that right- forgot where I saw a guy do a speed demon demo on YouTube. And me and Ghoolie have been down the road discussing this youngster when she was 16. If you like, skip to the 2 minute mark and watch a perfect cover of Van Halen's Eruption.
As Tom pointed out- it doesn't matter if you can play anything, the guys raking in the big bucks are the great songwriters. John Fogarty is a so-so guitar player- but man, can he write songs.
... I saw a guy do a speed demon demo on YouTube.
Year ago I stumbled into a Houston club by happenstance and caught The Amazing Royal Crowns, a punk-rockabilly band. Not my thing, but they had a guitarist who was the fastest I'd ever seen... and he was clean to boot. Dude was called "The Colonel". Per google his name is Johnny Maguire. Curious whether any of you aficionados have heard of him...
One I'm listening to now is Austin's most recent bluesman... Gary Clark, Jr.
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Lets face it...TD was a good player but not a great player. Ya he played on some good teams and had an amazing season but he doesn't deserve the gold jacket.
After years of having other HOFers advocate for his induction he finally gets in. He does nothing but cut down players and teams so..pay backs a bitch.
Lets face it...TD was a good player but not a great player. Ya he played on some good teams and had an amazing season but he doesn't deserve the gold jacket.
After years of having other HOFers advocate for his induction he finally gets in. He does nothing but cut down players and teams so..pay backs a bitch.
Even with a good team around you, you don't get to 2000 yards in a season being a good but not great player.
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Writing great songs is one thing and being a guitar master is another. Some people think "like a rolling Stone" is the greatest rock song. Certainly rolling Stone magazine named it as such and Dylan made his career on great songs...but they're intermediate guitar parts at best. Same with "American pie" and countless other great songs. Guitar virtuosity is not necessarily always appreciated. For instance I find Steve vai mostly unlistenable.
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