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  • In other words, Hue is saying " I still have no fucking idea what I am doing, and will play roulette while I hope a miracle happens".

    Seriously, this fucking guys needs to go.

    Back up has always felt about right... primarily due to arm limitations. But if you are fast enough in processing info, you can compensate for some zip deficiency.

    @ghoolie said:

    In other words, Hue is saying " I still have no fucking idea what I am doing, and will play roulette while I hope a miracle happens".

    Seriously, this fucking guys needs to go.

    Remind us all what your obvious choice has been among the rostered QB options based upon your observations of their mini-camp and full camp work to date?

  • @alkid3 said:

    Wow. I hope it's just so other teams can pick him up. Otherwise bad move imo

    Why? Honestly....what have the other QBs done so much better....in their careers, in this training camp, that would warrant them moving ahead of B.O.? Nothing. Almost all commentaries that I have heard have said that Kessler is essentially stinking up the joint, that Kizer is still just absolutely too raw and inexperienced....and that Hogan is no Hero.

    The thing that likely, ultimately makes sense is for Osweiler to start the season....have Kessler as backup, and have Kizer play the Apprentice...having him look, listen, and learn.

    Makes the most sense.

    Unless you want the Browns to bring back RGIII or to bring in Kaepernick.

    @the-gipper said:

    Why? Honestly....what have the other QBs done so much better....in their careers, in this training camp, that would warrant them moving ahead of B.O.? Nothing. Almost all commentaries that I have heard have said that Kessler is essentially stinking up the joint, that Kizer is still just absolutely too raw and inexperienced....and that Hogan is no Hero.

    The thing that likely, ultimately makes sense is for Osweiler to start the season....have Kessler as backup, and have Kizer play the Apprentice...having him look, listen, and learn.

    Makes the most sense.

    Unless you want the Browns to bring back RGIII or to bring in Kaepernick.

    Because we've seen what BO can do with a good team. Kessler played good last year. Despite having a bad team. Only knock on him is that he is too conservative. And a weak arm. I wouldn't mind bringing in Kap. And have him play WR/Qb. Like when he first got some time on the field. But not as starting QB. Negative on RG3.

  • no, no, no. I wouldn't have kap on my team if he played for free. He couldn't buy his way onto my team.

    Why add a cancer to your team, when you've been building a great lockerroom, etc etc for two years?

    We haven't seen what Bros can do with these Browns. Apparently, all the coaching done on fundamentals wasn't

    being done on that other "good" team. Os has enough experience, and with coaching, he could turn out to be

    terrific. So far, he really deserves the chance.

  • What cal said +1

  • @boo-fagley said:

    Kessler did not step up his game. Glad to see that you earn playing time with Hue just like Belichick.

    Oswieller could be the surprise of the 2017 season. One year removed from a pretty nice season in Denver. I still believe that he was in the wrong offense in Houston.

    I agree and I've said this since we've acquired OZ. How are we so rich in QB talent that we would not consider that Brock could come back to be "the man" and lead us out of the cellar of the league? IMO, being a good GM is 50% luck and 50% skill in that all decisions have such a high degree of risk and then there is the risk of injury, coaching systems, etc.

    It's time for the Browns to do both - make good decisions and get lucky. Maybe OZ will be a prime example. I would love him to step-up and show that he's an above average QB. It would make the Texans look absolutely foolish!

  • no, no, no. I wouldn't have kap on my team if he played for free. He couldn't buy his way onto my team.

    Why add a cancer to your team, when you've been building a great lockerroom, etc etc for two years?

    We haven't seen what Bros can do with these Browns. Apparently, all the coaching done on fundamentals wasn't

    being done on that other "good" team. Os has enough experience, and with coaching, he could turn out to be

    terrific. So far, he really deserves the chance.

    @calfoxwc said:

    no, no, no. I wouldn't have kap on my team if he played for free. He couldn't buy his way onto my team.

    Why add a cancer to your team, when you've been building a great lockerroom, etc etc for two years?

    We haven't seen what Bros can do with these Browns. Apparently, all the coaching done on fundamentals wasn't

    being done on that other "good" team. Os has enough experience, and with coaching, he could turn out to be

    terrific. So far, he really deserves the chance.

    & now guys like Spike Lee are protesting that NFL GMs can't see Kaps greatness, and he's being deliberately shunned.

  • The disappointing part according to most watching camp is that Kessler lost the job well above Osweiler winning it. That doesn't bode well, but I'll be interested to see what Brock Lobster brings to the table.

  • The disappointing part according to most watching camp is that Kessler lost the job well above Osweiler winning it. That doesn't bode well, but I'll be interested to see what Brock Lobster brings to the table.

    @jrb12711 said:

    The disappointing part according to most watching camp is that Kessler lost the job well above Osweiler winning it.

    Understood. But it is what it is. We're tied for first place. We've gotta play the least worse guy.

  • no, no, no. I wouldn't have kap on my team if he played for free. He couldn't buy his way onto my team.

    Why add a cancer to your team, when you've been building a great lockerroom, etc etc for two years?

    We haven't seen what Bros can do with these Browns. Apparently, all the coaching done on fundamentals wasn't

    being done on that other "good" team. Os has enough experience, and with coaching, he could turn out to be

    terrific. So far, he really deserves the chance.

    @calfoxwc said:

    no, no, no. I wouldn't have kap on my team if he played for free. He couldn't buy his way onto my team.

    Why add a cancer to your team, when you've been building a great lockerroom, etc etc for two years?

    We haven't seen what Bros can do with these Browns. Apparently, all the coaching done on fundamentals wasn't

    being done on that other "good" team. Os has enough experience, and with coaching, he could turn out to be

    terrific. So far, he really deserves the chance.

    Agreed.

    @hoorta said:

    & now guys like Spike Lee are protesting that NFL GMs can't see Kaps greatness, and he's being deliberately shunned.

    I wouldn't touch Kap with a 10' pole, so SCREW Spike Lee!....(let HIM put his money where his mouth is & he can pay Kap)

    1) Every action has a reaction. Kap is living with the reaction to HIS action & will continue to do so.

    2) "Perception is reality"

    Mike

  • @jrb12711 said:

    The disappointing part according to most watching camp is that Kessler lost the job well above Osweiler winning it.

    Understood. But it is what it is. We're tied for first place. We've gotta play the least worse guy.

    @orion said:

    We've gotta play the least worse guy.

    The motto of the Cleveland Browns since 1999 haha.

    Here's to hoping I'm wrong though!

  • I expect the same old browns tonight...hue making boneheaded calls,, And the QB being dumbed down again...

  • @calfoxwc said:

    no, no, no. I wouldn't have kap on my team if he played for free. He couldn't buy his way onto my team.

    Why add a cancer to your team, when you've been building a great lockerroom, etc etc for two years?

    We haven't seen what Bros can do with these Browns. Apparently, all the coaching done on fundamentals wasn't

    being done on that other "good" team. Os has enough experience, and with coaching, he could turn out to be

    terrific. So far, he really deserves the chance.

    & now guys like Spike Lee are protesting that NFL GMs can't see Kaps greatness, and he's being deliberately shunned.

    @hoorta said:

    & now guys like Spike Lee are protesting that NFL GMs can't see Kaps greatness, and he's being deliberately shunned.

    The problem is that a guy like Spike Lee only sees skin color. He can't see Kap's lack of greatness. GMs see mediocrity. If he were so great, he would have a job regardless of his protests.

  • ^ That I agree with...

    As for Kaep being a "cancer"... hard to find a teammate of his that put him in that category.

  • ^ That I agree with...

    As for Kaep being a "cancer"... hard to find a teammate of his that put him in that category.

    @tour2ma said:

    ^ That I agree with...

    That you posted it today at 8:32am? I also agree.