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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @flyin-j said:

    Hes had to change a lot of his mechanics.

    The key, ball-security change held up surprisingly well in his first action. He kept two hands on the ball even thru most of his pocket movement. The lone exception was as soon as he decided to run the ball when he left it exposed for a couple strides before tucking it away.

    That said the next step... and a more difficult one it is... is to eliminate his need to pat the ball to trigger his motion. It's a tenth of a second wasted with the ball exposed.

    Camp Attendees: If you can, please note if he pats the ball in drills, or if they are working on eliminating it.

    One other note... I was a little surprised that his first deep ball, the one to the 1-ydline, looked to be at the limit of his arm at 57 yd in the air... and that was moving forward with everything behind the throw. Into the wind?

    @tour2ma said:

    One other note... I was a little surprised that his first deep ball, the one to the 1-ydline, looked to be at the limit of his arm at 57 yd in the air... and that was moving forward with everything behind the throw. Into the wind?

    Yeah I noticed that too. I think the announcers made a comment about him having no trouble throwing it that far (flick of the wrist or something along those lines) and thinking that it looked to me about as far as he could throw to me. Maybe he put it at a high angle?

  • 57 yards in the air is plenty far. Shouldn't need to be throwing passes that far very often....like the rare Hail Mary.

    BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE
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  • Here https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/draft/2017/04/20/deshone-kizer-nfl-draft-notre-dame-greatest-qb-tom-brady-cam-newton/100708188/ Kizer says 72 yards..Than,what's wrong with shooting for a GOAT at the position? Keep believing it kid.

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  • OrionO Orion

    57 yards in the air is plenty far. Shouldn't need to be throwing passes that far very often....like the rare Hail Mary.

    @orion said:

    57 yards in the air is plenty far. Shouldn't need to be throwing passes that far very often....like the rare Hail Mary.

    57 doesn't suck... especially compared to the 45's we've seen in Kess and Hoyer, but it's not quite what I was expecting... especially not the way he got behind that throw.

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @orion said:

    57 yards in the air is plenty far. Shouldn't need to be throwing passes that far very often....like the rare Hail Mary.

    57 doesn't suck... especially compared to the 45's we've seen in Kess and Hoyer, but it's not quite what I was expecting... especially not the way he got behind that throw.

    @tour2ma said:

    57 doesn't suck... but it's not quite what I was expecting... especially not the way he got behind that throw.

    Yeah, it DID look like he was heaving it as far as he could.

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  • More important than how far Kizer can throw is the fact that he should be able to get the ball downfield 15+ yards in November and December on the lakefront without it being held up by the swirling winds.

  • In two days I believe Kizer takes the job and never looks back. Cue up "I gotta Feeling"

  • jcam222J jcam222

    In two days I believe Kizer takes the job and never looks back. Cue up "I gotta Feeling"

    @jcam222 said:

    In two days I believe Kizer takes the job and never looks back. Cue up "I gotta Feeling"

    I'm still not convinced that the Browns don't take a QB with their first pick next draft.

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  • OrionO Orion

    @tour2ma said:

    57 doesn't suck... but it's not quite what I was expecting... especially not the way he got behind that throw.

    Yeah, it DID look like he was heaving it as far as he could.

    @orion said:

    Yeah, it DID look like he was heaving it as far as he could.

    Betcha he throws it a lot farther in the air before he's done... Frankly, it looked like he was putting it in exactly the right spot, NOT just "heaving and praying"

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  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

    @jcam222 said:

    In two days I believe Kizer takes the job and never looks back. Cue up "I gotta Feeling"

    I'm still not convinced that the Browns don't take a QB with their first pick next draft.

    Black-eyed Peas reference?

    @dutch-oven said:

    I'm still not convinced that the Browns don't take a QB with their first pick next draft.

    And there's no need to be at this point... long way to go to the 2018 Draft.

    @unsympathetic said:

    Betcha he throws it a lot farther in the air before he's done... Frankly, it looked like he was putting it in exactly the right spot, NOT just "heaving and praying"

    On the 2nd deep ball... the 4th down TD pass, yes... much more "controlled" throw arriving very close to "in stride".

    But the first one? No... it was muscled. And the WR had to pull up and wait on it almost letting the DB back into the play.

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