11 Browns protest

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@miktoxic said:

Some people are entrenched in patriotism from generations of family serving... and some families never did shit but suck on the tough titties of those that died for them to do so.

Know what side of the fence u fall on....obviously.

I'm on the side that didn't have to rely on the military as a fallback option after high school and then tout it as some sort of great sacrifice.

miktoxic

@jrb12711 said:

No, you don't. If you feel strongly enough against what they did (which is supported by the Browns organization and coaches) then don't watch or watch another team. No one is strapping you into a fucking chair and feeding this to you. We won't miss you.

You guys are some of the biggest whiners I've ever encountered.

Fuck those traitors and fuck you.

syd

oh so they were protesting or whatever,thought it was a circle jerk

tiamat63

@topdawg31 said:

Fuck those assholes that disrespected the flag, the nation and the men and women that defended her. They can protest on their own time. How about pony ing up some of that easy earned cash and starting a proactive group to bring awareness to whatever the fuck they are trying to accomplish.

I hate to defend the guy but didn't Kaep.drop a cool Mil on such a thing?

tiamat63

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

I'm on the side that didn't have to rely on the military as a fallback option after high school and then tout it as some sort of great sacrifice.

It is a great sacrifice but to throw it blindy in the face of others such as Mik is doing diminishes that honor.

Basically he's saying "fuck you I'm a vet"... which isn't right. I also hope someone can vouch for him on that service. Ran into a couple stolen valor boys at a bar once and it was a obvious it was cringe worthy.

TopDawg31

@tiamat63 said:

I hate to defend the guy but didn't Kaep.drop a cool Mil on such a thing?

This is not about him its about the 11 assholes on the Browns

calfoxwc

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

I'm on the side that didn't have to rely on the military as a fallback option after high school and then tout it as some sort of great sacrifice.

Okay, that is asswholish. You defend the praying during the National Anthem, but you diss all folks who served in our

military as loser fall back options? Moron - I was in. There was some of that, but there were guys who had plenty of

options. They wanted to serve their country. All kinds of reasons, all colors, all kinds of backgrounds, STFU.

calfoxwc

@tiamat63 said:

It is a great sacrifice but to throw it blindy in the face of others such as Mik is doing diminishes that honor.

Basically he's saying "fuck you I'm a vet"... which isn't right. I also hope someone can vouch for him on that service. Ran into a couple stolen valor boys at a bar once and it was a obvious it was cringe worthy.

so now you suspect all veterans on the board of being fakes? WTF is wrong with you?

PoeticG

I support the taking of a knee. Just sitting there on a bench looks disrespectful. The taking a knee approach is more suitable and respectful.

Really- I didn't see a taking of a knee on TV but apparently it happened. I've seen enough of the situation to form an opinion though.

Clearly, at least to me, this shouldn't be a black vs. white thing. This should be a challenge to ALL races and religions. This country MUST be tolerant to each other's beliefs and cultures. This country must respect the lives of each other above all things. All Lives Matter - period! Stop the hate people, there is so much more to be worried about.

wargograw

That's low, Jared. Come on.

wargograw

@tiamat63 said:

I'm not mad at any of them. I'm tired of the crying from both sides as I've illustrated. The Kaep supporters and the fans for their equally bitchy response.

And what about Kaep himself?

Westside Steve

I don't know if anyone has made this point, if so sorry to repeat but if the new coach lets his team know that he'd appreciate it if they would be cool and 11 12 or 13 of them basically tell him to go fuck himself that's probably not a positive indicator of respect. We shall see how it plays out.

WSS

tiamat63

@wargograw said:

And what about Kaep himself?

He's too non descript, uses overly vague and generalized language for me to support him. His message is to raise awareness of racial injustice. Be specific on the cases you've seen, concrete happenings and a course of dialogue. I don't think he's as over the top whiny as half the cronies that follow or oppose him. However after his choice of sock fiasco I simply can't take his stance seriously. You cannot claim to be viewed as wanting positive change while re-enforcing prejudice and negative stereotypes.

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@wargograw said:

That's low, Jared. Come on.

In what way? It's true.

Thats not saying everyone in the armed services falls under that umbrella but there certainly is a increasingly large percentage of enlisted men who fall into that population nowadays. The armed services and law enforcement have been preying on students for decades because they needed boots on the ground. They offer signing bonuses and free education to entice many of those who could not have afforded it otherwise.

The proportion of enlisted men who began their service because of patriotism is much lower than it was in previous generations. It's not like it was in the mid 20th century.

It's sad but true.

These professions (both armed services and law enforcement) have become fallbacks for many young men and women and that's diluting the water and giving a bad name to people who are 1) qualified and 2) passionate about it.

First hand example - in my high school, army recruiters administered the ASVAB to students. It was mandatory for all students except those in IB/AP programs, who (I shit you not) needed that time to "study for finals".

The men who serve out of patriotism and love for this country's ideals are far less likely to be chastising her inhabitants for exercising their rights than those who did it because they were forced to.

EDIT: Not everything I say is a personal

attack against a poster. Mik and I disagree and snipe from time to time but I wouldn't stoop that low to call him out like that.

Also Kizer is the starter this week, just got the notification.

Ibleedbrown

This seems to be creating a lot of assumptions and overreactions.

This is why l am weary of journalists. Oh look, this photograph will light up my twitter account. Well done journalist.

But what other information has come out about this? What exactly do we know?

We have a picture of a mixed group of Browns players who, unless they are total dumbasses, know they are stirring the pot. I see defense, offense, and special teams represented, and l see both black and white players.

Why are they stirring the pot? What statement are they trying to make? What exactly, if anything, are they protesting?

Isn't the point of protesting to draw attention to something that you would like to see changed? What exactly is it that they would like to see changed?

domcucch1994

@miktoxic said:

i do.

until you've put a uniform on and defended these millionaires to turn their back on the basis/history of this UNITED STATES....shut the fuck up.

oh, and who are they gonna call when they get car jacked? their home gets broken into? it ain't tyrone. dumbasses. 2 faced hypocritical bitches.

They aren't turning their backs you fucking hayseed, they are kneeling... I bet you sit your fat fucking ass on your couch and drink a beer during the National Anthem..

What is the big deal anyways? They fucking kneeled!

And don't give me this "until you've put on a uniform" bullshit.. No one can force you to stand for the goddamn National Anthem, this ain't Nazi fucking Germany, Adolf!

This is America... people have rights... If you wan't to live in a country where you a forced to stand for the National Anthem, go to North Korea, and see how fucking great it is...

mohican

There is a reason why people are tuning out ESPN, and sports along with it.    

The Gipper

@mohican said:

There is a reason why people are tuning out ESPN, and sports along with it.    

No, there isn't. People that watch sports won't give shit about this.

JAFBF

Offended?

Disappointed . . . very.

Not a good look for a young Team in the National spotlight, I had thought they had more sense.

I'm looking at the bigger picture though.

In the Military, you'd get disciplined for disrespect to the Flag - up to Court Martial.
Most Work places forbid Political Activities in and around the work place.
Guess what? NFL Players are employees of their respective Teams.

See, this all stems out of the Disease known as Political Correctness.
This has devolved the SJW's, which are stirring up all this crap and are in the process of erasing History.
NFL is in their sites too with CTE . . . it's days are numbered.

Got news for ya'll, there's Social Injustice to all Races, Creeds, and Religions from all directions.
Just the nature of the beast.

This whole stupid NFL thing was started by Kaepernick.
It was so important to him to do this to change the world that . . . he didn't even bother voting.

The World's a pretty messed up place, I just want to watch Football without all the extra stupidity.

medicineman

Stop giving these fucking jerk offs coverage. If nobody put them on tv showing their "protest" then it would be no big deal. And that goes for any team.