Hue "irate" with Haden cut
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I'm a fan of Joe Haden, but the guy is a shell of his former self.
Thats the truth, and it doesn't hurt.
I guess we will find out. He didnt do anything bad and hes not being paid 11 hes being paid 7. I think the steelers are going to get their moneys worth.
I guess we will find out. He didnt do anything bad and hes not being paid 11 hes being paid 7. I think the steelers are going to get their moneys worth.
If getting burned a few times....and getting lucky that he wasn't burned more due to some inaccurate passes to you isn't "bad" then I guess we can say that the Browns DBs vs. AB didn't "do bad".
(but...of course, they did...and so did Haden).
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No that your starting corners had to fair far worse from a pff stand point.
Not really. . .
CB BRIEAN BODDY-CALHOUN, 84.2 OVERALL GRADE
While teammate Jamar Taylor had his hands full with Brown (33.3 coverage grade), Boddy-Calhoun enjoyed a strong afternoon, much of it spent in the slot. On three throws into his coverage he surrendered just one catch for six yards, also breaking up a pass. He notched three total defensive stops and no missed tackles on the day.
Not really. . .
CB BRIEAN BODDY-CALHOUN, 84.2 OVERALL GRADE
While teammate Jamar Taylor had his hands full with Brown (33.3 coverage grade), Boddy-Calhoun enjoyed a strong afternoon, much of it spent in the slot. On three throws into his coverage he surrendered just one catch for six yards, also breaking up a pass. He notched three total defensive stops and no missed tackles on the day.
I agree...I thought it was Taylor who had a pretty piss poor game. On at least 3 occasion Brown (or some other Steeler WR), caught a ball in front of Taylor....then ran right by him for many more yards than they would have gotten had he made the tackle.
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Not really. . .
CB BRIEAN BODDY-CALHOUN, 84.2 OVERALL GRADE
While teammate Jamar Taylor had his hands full with Brown (33.3 coverage grade), Boddy-Calhoun enjoyed a strong afternoon, much of it spent in the slot. On three throws into his coverage he surrendered just one catch for six yards, also breaking up a pass. He notched three total defensive stops and no missed tackles on the day.
He also wasnt tested with bryant shaking off the rust. You should have led with taylor seeing as ben really only threw to jesse james and brown that game.
He also wasnt tested with bryant shaking off the rust. You should have led with taylor seeing as ben really only threw to jesse james and brown that game.
Uh...um, duh. He threw to those two because they were the ones open. Why? Because the other guys were probably covered. Taylor did a bad job, yes, in my opinion. (how many players have ever just out AB...from any team?) The two players that are the difference between the Browns and Steelers....BR and BRown...are the ones that made the difference in that game. But you overrate your other receivers. Bryant has been good at times in the past...but who knows about now (be it "rust" or be it perhaps he ain't all that good).
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I guess we will find out. He didnt do anything bad and hes not being paid 11 hes being paid 7. I think the steelers are going to get their moneys worth.
If getting burned a few times....and getting lucky that he wasn't burned more due to some inaccurate passes to you isn't "bad" then I guess we can say that the Browns DBs vs. AB didn't "do bad".
(but...of course, they did...and so did Haden).
If getting burned a few times....and getting lucky that he wasn't burned more due to some inaccurate passes to you isn't "bad" then I guess we can say that the Browns DBs vs. AB didn't "do bad".
(but...of course, they did...and so did Haden).
If Haden was playing a zone, it looked like a prevent zone. He was beaten on that bomb that went out of bounds. An accurate throw by Kizer + catch = TD. Joe's closing burst is gone.
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I think Haden could do well in zone coverage, man to man I think he is going to struggle he was getting beat in the preseason in man against lesser WRs so zone I think he will be fine and has the smarts to do well there, man coverage will be a crap shoot.
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@boo-fagley said:
Haden is supposed to bolster the Pitt secondary so they can beat NE.
Did you watch the KC game? KC was playing man 2 man. An experienced QB is going burn the Pitt defense to a crisp.
The steelers are running a mix. Haden allows them to do it more freely. If tuitt dodges a bullet with his bicep injury im not worried about tom brady as much as i used to be, if tuitt is done things get morr interesting. Burns can man up with the best of them, haden despite what people here think should be fine too, especially as the 2 and not the one.
The steelers are running a mix. Haden allows them to do it more freely. If tuitt dodges a bullet with his bicep injury im not worried about tom brady as much as i used to be, if tuitt is done things get morr interesting. Burns can man up with the best of them, haden despite what people here think should be fine too, especially as the 2 and not the one.
Burns? That guy lives up to his name. (In fact...I think the announcers on yesterday's game said that he was the most penalized DB in the NFL last year. He holds and interferes because he can't cover).
And face it: The Browns are considered to have one of the worst receiving corps in the entire NFL. and they did pretty well vs. the Squibs secondary. If not for a few inaccurate passes by a first game ever rookie QB...things would have been much worse. And you know where they might get worse?
Here (hear) is what you said: "I'm not worried about Tom Brady". Here is the appropriate reply:
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The steelers are running a mix. Haden allows them to do it more freely. If tuitt dodges a bullet with his bicep injury im not worried about tom brady as much as i used to be, if tuitt is done things get morr interesting. Burns can man up with the best of them, haden despite what people here think should be fine too, especially as the 2 and not the one.
Burns? That guy lives up to his name. (In fact...I think the announcers on yesterday's game said that he was the most penalized DB in the NFL last year. He holds and interferes because he can't cover).
And face it: The Browns are considered to have one of the worst receiving corps in the entire NFL. and they did pretty well vs. the Squibs secondary. If not for a few inaccurate passes by a first game ever rookie QB...things would have been much worse. And you know where they might get worse?
Here (hear) is what you said: "I'm not worried about Tom Brady". Here is the appropriate reply:
Burns? That guy lives up to his name. (In fact...I think the announcers on yesterday's game said that he was the most penalized DB in the NFL last year. He holds and interferes because he can't cover).
And face it: The Browns are considered to have one of the worst receiving corps in the entire NFL. and they did pretty well vs. the Squibs secondary. If not for a few inaccurate passes by a first game ever rookie QB...things would have been much worse. And you know where they might get worse?
Here (hear) is what you said: "I'm not worried about Tom Brady". Here is the appropriate reply:
Artie burns is an animal. Im not sure who you are talking about but it isnt burns. He goes against brown every day but game day and he holds his own.
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Disagree with "done", but he certainly hasn't flirted with "elite" for a couple years now. Hidden in a zone I think he'll be serviceable... make some plays... nab a pick or two... but zone was never his strength and the O/U on games missed due to injury has to be around 3.0... and that's only considering the protocol factor.
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Burns? That guy lives up to his name. (In fact...I think the announcers on yesterday's game said that he was the most penalized DB in the NFL last year. He holds and interferes because he can't cover).
And face it: The Browns are considered to have one of the worst receiving corps in the entire NFL. and they did pretty well vs. the Squibs secondary. If not for a few inaccurate passes by a first game ever rookie QB...things would have been much worse. And you know where they might get worse?
Here (hear) is what you said: "I'm not worried about Tom Brady". Here is the appropriate reply:
Artie burns is an animal. Im not sure who you are talking about but it isnt burns. He goes against brown every day but game day and he holds his own.
Artie burns is an animal. Im not sure who you are talking about but it isnt burns. He goes against brown every day but game day and he holds his own.
And they say that De-Lusion is just a brand of light bulbs. What Burns is is just another in a recent line of mediocre or below Steeler draft picks at DB.
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Artie burns is an animal. Im not sure who you are talking about but it isnt burns. He goes against brown every day but game day and he holds his own.
And they say that De-Lusion is just a brand of light bulbs. What Burns is is just another in a recent line of mediocre or below Steeler draft picks at DB.
And they say that De-Lusion is just a brand of light bulbs. What Burns is is just another in a recent line of mediocre or below Steeler draft picks at DB.
Do you just randomly decide that you are going to talk out of your ass or is this a weak troll attempt?
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And they say that De-Lusion is just a brand of light bulbs. What Burns is is just another in a recent line of mediocre or below Steeler draft picks at DB.
Do you just randomly decide that you are going to talk out of your ass or is this a weak troll attempt?
Do you just randomly decide that you are going to talk out of your ass or is this a weak troll attempt?
I am just pointing out that you are being completely delusional in some of your opinions. In the words of former Patriots coach: Ron Meyer Artie Burns is "Just another guy".
Show me anything anywhere that rates this just another guy in the top echelon of defensive backs in the NFL.
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Do you just randomly decide that you are going to talk out of your ass or is this a weak troll attempt?
I am just pointing out that you are being completely delusional in some of your opinions. In the words of former Patriots coach: Ron Meyer Artie Burns is "Just another guy".
Show me anything anywhere that rates this just another guy in the top echelon of defensive backs in the NFL.
I am just pointing out that you are being completely delusional in some of your opinions. In the words of former Patriots coach: Ron Meyer Artie Burns is "Just another guy".
Show me anything anywhere that rates this just another guy in the top echelon of defensive backs in the NFL.
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Make that a bag of dicks.
WSS
I thought you had the market cornered on the bag of dicks? Dont you hand feed them to cal and diehard?
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I am just pointing out that you are being completely delusional in some of your opinions. In the words of former Patriots coach: Ron Meyer Artie Burns is "Just another guy".
Show me anything anywhere that rates this just another guy in the top echelon of defensive backs in the NFL.
Its isn't really either a "brilliant or a shrewd" draft pick. The Steelers were a wasteland in the defensive backfield. It was an absolute NO brainer that they would draft a DB. This is the guy they chose.
Eli Apple would in fact have been a better pick as he is a better player. Who on earth has he impressed?
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Its isn't really either a "brilliant or a shrewd" draft pick. The Steelers were a wasteland in the defensive backfield. It was an absolute NO brainer that they would draft a DB. This is the guy they chose.
Eli Apple would in fact have been a better pick as he is a better player. Who on earth has he impressed?
Its isn't really either a "brilliant or a shrewd" draft pick. The Steelers were a wasteland in the defensive backfield. It was an absolute NO brainer that they would draft a DB. This is the guy they chose.
Eli Apple would in fact have been a better pick as he is a better player. Who on earth has he impressed?
Artie burns was better than eli apple last season. Did you read the article? The knock was he was raw. Hes come into his own now.
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Its isn't really either a "brilliant or a shrewd" draft pick. The Steelers were a wasteland in the defensive backfield. It was an absolute NO brainer that they would draft a DB. This is the guy they chose.
Eli Apple would in fact have been a better pick as he is a better player. Who on earth has he impressed?
Artie burns was better than eli apple last season. Did you read the article? The knock was he was raw. Hes come into his own now.
Artie burns was better than eli apple last season. Did you read the article? The knock was he was raw. Hes come into his own now.
He has come into his own...now? You mean like just during yesterday's game? So last year he was raw....and now he is ripe? (Is that why he stunk up the joint?) A ripe crabapple is still a crabapple. Its not like it becomes a Golden Delicious (Eli?) Apple just because it has been sitting around the bowl awhile.
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Artie burns was better than eli apple last season. Did you read the article? The knock was he was raw. Hes come into his own now.
He has come into his own...now? You mean like just during yesterday's game? So last year he was raw....and now he is ripe? (Is that why he stunk up the joint?) A ripe crabapple is still a crabapple. Its not like it becomes a Golden Delicious (Eli?) Apple just because it has been sitting around the bowl awhile.
He has come into his own...now? You mean like just during yesterday's game? So last year he was raw....and now he is ripe? (Is that why he stunk up the joint?) A ripe crabapple is still a crabapple. Its not like it becomes a Golden Delicious (Eli?) Apple just because it has been sitting around the bowl awhile.
He was something like a 79 last year via pff as a rookie. Did you read the article? Frankly which is usually par for the course you dont know what you are talking about when it comes to other teams in the league. He finished strong last season and had a great camp. Brown torches everyone and he held his own against brown. There is no better test in the nfl for a corner.
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I love Body Count BUT he's no Joe Haden.
... and in 2 years you'll all call him washed up and proclaim diminished skills... God forbid he gets injured- It'll be a blood bath induced witch hunt.
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