Hue "irate" with Haden cut
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Disagree with "done", but he certainly hasn't flirted with "elite" for a couple years now. Hidden in a zone I think he'll be serviceable... make some plays... nab a pick or two... but zone was never his strength and the O/U on games missed due to injury has to be around 3.0... and that's only considering the protocol factor.
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Burns? That guy lives up to his name. (In fact...I think the announcers on yesterday's game said that he was the most penalized DB in the NFL last year. He holds and interferes because he can't cover).
And face it: The Browns are considered to have one of the worst receiving corps in the entire NFL. and they did pretty well vs. the Squibs secondary. If not for a few inaccurate passes by a first game ever rookie QB...things would have been much worse. And you know where they might get worse?
Here (hear) is what you said: "I'm not worried about Tom Brady". Here is the appropriate reply:
Artie burns is an animal. Im not sure who you are talking about but it isnt burns. He goes against brown every day but game day and he holds his own.
Artie burns is an animal. Im not sure who you are talking about but it isnt burns. He goes against brown every day but game day and he holds his own.
And they say that De-Lusion is just a brand of light bulbs. What Burns is is just another in a recent line of mediocre or below Steeler draft picks at DB.
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Artie burns is an animal. Im not sure who you are talking about but it isnt burns. He goes against brown every day but game day and he holds his own.
And they say that De-Lusion is just a brand of light bulbs. What Burns is is just another in a recent line of mediocre or below Steeler draft picks at DB.
And they say that De-Lusion is just a brand of light bulbs. What Burns is is just another in a recent line of mediocre or below Steeler draft picks at DB.
Do you just randomly decide that you are going to talk out of your ass or is this a weak troll attempt?
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And they say that De-Lusion is just a brand of light bulbs. What Burns is is just another in a recent line of mediocre or below Steeler draft picks at DB.
Do you just randomly decide that you are going to talk out of your ass or is this a weak troll attempt?
Do you just randomly decide that you are going to talk out of your ass or is this a weak troll attempt?
I am just pointing out that you are being completely delusional in some of your opinions. In the words of former Patriots coach: Ron Meyer Artie Burns is "Just another guy".
Show me anything anywhere that rates this just another guy in the top echelon of defensive backs in the NFL.
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Do you just randomly decide that you are going to talk out of your ass or is this a weak troll attempt?
I am just pointing out that you are being completely delusional in some of your opinions. In the words of former Patriots coach: Ron Meyer Artie Burns is "Just another guy".
Show me anything anywhere that rates this just another guy in the top echelon of defensive backs in the NFL.
I am just pointing out that you are being completely delusional in some of your opinions. In the words of former Patriots coach: Ron Meyer Artie Burns is "Just another guy".
Show me anything anywhere that rates this just another guy in the top echelon of defensive backs in the NFL.
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Make that a bag of dicks.
WSS
I thought you had the market cornered on the bag of dicks? Dont you hand feed them to cal and diehard?
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I am just pointing out that you are being completely delusional in some of your opinions. In the words of former Patriots coach: Ron Meyer Artie Burns is "Just another guy".
Show me anything anywhere that rates this just another guy in the top echelon of defensive backs in the NFL.
Its isn't really either a "brilliant or a shrewd" draft pick. The Steelers were a wasteland in the defensive backfield. It was an absolute NO brainer that they would draft a DB. This is the guy they chose.
Eli Apple would in fact have been a better pick as he is a better player. Who on earth has he impressed?
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Its isn't really either a "brilliant or a shrewd" draft pick. The Steelers were a wasteland in the defensive backfield. It was an absolute NO brainer that they would draft a DB. This is the guy they chose.
Eli Apple would in fact have been a better pick as he is a better player. Who on earth has he impressed?
Its isn't really either a "brilliant or a shrewd" draft pick. The Steelers were a wasteland in the defensive backfield. It was an absolute NO brainer that they would draft a DB. This is the guy they chose.
Eli Apple would in fact have been a better pick as he is a better player. Who on earth has he impressed?
Artie burns was better than eli apple last season. Did you read the article? The knock was he was raw. Hes come into his own now.
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Its isn't really either a "brilliant or a shrewd" draft pick. The Steelers were a wasteland in the defensive backfield. It was an absolute NO brainer that they would draft a DB. This is the guy they chose.
Eli Apple would in fact have been a better pick as he is a better player. Who on earth has he impressed?
Artie burns was better than eli apple last season. Did you read the article? The knock was he was raw. Hes come into his own now.
Artie burns was better than eli apple last season. Did you read the article? The knock was he was raw. Hes come into his own now.
He has come into his own...now? You mean like just during yesterday's game? So last year he was raw....and now he is ripe? (Is that why he stunk up the joint?) A ripe crabapple is still a crabapple. Its not like it becomes a Golden Delicious (Eli?) Apple just because it has been sitting around the bowl awhile.
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Artie burns was better than eli apple last season. Did you read the article? The knock was he was raw. Hes come into his own now.
He has come into his own...now? You mean like just during yesterday's game? So last year he was raw....and now he is ripe? (Is that why he stunk up the joint?) A ripe crabapple is still a crabapple. Its not like it becomes a Golden Delicious (Eli?) Apple just because it has been sitting around the bowl awhile.
He has come into his own...now? You mean like just during yesterday's game? So last year he was raw....and now he is ripe? (Is that why he stunk up the joint?) A ripe crabapple is still a crabapple. Its not like it becomes a Golden Delicious (Eli?) Apple just because it has been sitting around the bowl awhile.
He was something like a 79 last year via pff as a rookie. Did you read the article? Frankly which is usually par for the course you dont know what you are talking about when it comes to other teams in the league. He finished strong last season and had a great camp. Brown torches everyone and he held his own against brown. There is no better test in the nfl for a corner.
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Give it up PoG, you're a good man and your passion is obvious, but it's blinding you due to loyalty.
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I love Body Count BUT he's no Joe Haden.
... and in 2 years you'll all call him washed up and proclaim diminished skills... God forbid he gets injured- It'll be a blood bath induced witch hunt.
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Give it up PoG, you're a good man and your passion is obvious, but it's blinding you due to loyalty.
Give it up PoG, you're a good man and your passion is obvious, but it's blinding you due to loyalty.
you can try and convince him. But all he'll respond with is that Josh Gordon and Trent Richardson are going to come back to dominate the league.
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Look, the bottom line is this; Analytics can be a PART of the equation but it is NOT the answer, period.
The Browns F.O. should have kept Terrel Pryor, Joe Haden, Desmond Bryant and John Greco.
We gave Kenny Britt the contract that Pryor deserved. So what if it was going to be a little bit more money. You have to overpay just a little bit to keep great players in an organization that has lost 26 of it's last 28 games. I'm sorry if you just don't get it but "play like a Brown" means nothing to a player that wants to leave a legacy on the NFL. Cleveland is where careers go to die at this point in time. If the difference is a couple of million dollars and we have the cap space, we pay it.
WE HAVE TO KEEP OUR TALENTED PLAYERS AND BUILD THROUGH THE DRAFT.
Pryor and Haden should have been here and they WOULD HAVE made a difference in the outcome Sunday.
We play to win the game. Fuck the moral victories. I'm sick of losing- on purpose.
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