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  • TheClevelandSound TheClevelandSoundT
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    TheClevelandSoundT TheClevelandSound wrote on last edited by
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    Another celebrity/athlete get a break

    Predicted Records:2010: 8-82011: 8-82012: 9-72013: 5-112014: 6-10
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      Another celebrity/athlete get a break

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      ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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      @theclevelandsound said:

      Another celebrity/athlete get a break

      Not really.....it's a situation anyone could argue...you don't have to be a celebrity to be able to apply the law.

      If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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        Goodell's still going to suspend him for at least four games, and he's not going to do it until after Stallworth's case is resolved and/or his prison term ends. So I have a hard time seeing him playing this year.

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        OconReconO OconRecon wrote on last edited by
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        Aloysius said:

        Goodell's still going to suspend him for at least four games, and he's not going to do it until after Stallworth's case is resolved and/or his prison term ends. So I have a hard time seeing him playing this year.

        Agree. Seems like everything would have to break Stallworth's way for it to happen.

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          @theclevelandsound said:

          Another celebrity/athlete get a break

          Not really.....it's a situation anyone could argue...you don't have to be a celebrity to be able to apply the law.

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          TheClevelandSoundT TheClevelandSound wrote on last edited by
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          @ballpeen said:

          Not really.....it's a situation anyone could argue...you don't have to be a celebrity to be able to apply the law.

          touche

          I always lose. Im never gonna be a lawyer.

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            @theclevelandsound said:

            Another celebrity/athlete get a break

            Not really.....it's a situation anyone could argue...you don't have to be a celebrity to be able to apply the law.

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            D DawgTracker wrote on last edited by
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            @ballpeen said:

            Not really.....it's a situation anyone could argue...you don't have to be a celebrity to be able to apply the law.

            But, an average citizen probably couldn't afford the lawyers necessary to get off

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              hammertimeH hammertime wrote on last edited by
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              I beleive its just a matter of legal procedings that have kept the Browns from outright letting this guy go. Its too bad he couldn't help us.

              guns don't kill kids-pitt bulls do.
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                @ballpeen said:

                Not really.....it's a situation anyone could argue...you don't have to be a celebrity to be able to apply the law.

                But, an average citizen probably couldn't afford the lawyers necessary to get off

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                ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                @dawgtracker said:

                But, an average citizen probably couldn't afford the lawyers necessary to get off

                Everybody is afforded counsel.

                This isn't such a obscure component of that states law that it would require a crack team of attorneys and clerks researching the dusty volumes.

                If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                  GipsG Gips wrote on last edited by
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                  Even if he gets a break it really doesnt matter with the new guys we have aquired stallworth most likely wont be able to make the team...

                  We have been rebuilding since 1964, Why stop now? GO BROWNS!
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                    Even if he gets a break it really doesnt matter with the new guys we have aquired stallworth most likely wont be able to make the team...

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                    @gips said:

                    Even if he gets a break it really doesnt matter with the new guys we have aquired stallworth most likely wont be able to make the team...

                    Hey, I hope the BEST for him, but I don't want him back HERE.

                    Like I said, if some idiot ran out in the middle of a 5-6 lane highway illeagaly and got creamed by any of you, ALL of you would have said "So what if I had a drink or two, the asshole shouldn't have been in the middle of a freakin HIGHWAY" in the back of your heads.

                    Lighten up on the guy.

                    If he hadn't had a drink he'd be off scott free right now.

                    3 seasons until our new head coach, let's hope they get it right this time.
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                      Even if he gets a break it really doesnt matter with the new guys we have aquired stallworth most likely wont be able to make the team...

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                      ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                      @gips said:

                      Even if he gets a break it really doesnt matter with the new guys we have aquired stallworth most likely wont be able to make the team...

                      He could probably make it......but he may not be wanted at this point.

                      As Al said.....he probably still faces some form of sanction from the league office.

                      If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                        @theclevelandsound said:

                        Another celebrity/athlete get a break

                        Not really.....it's a situation anyone could argue...you don't have to be a celebrity to be able to apply the law.

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                        Oldcrow1945O Oldcrow1945 wrote on last edited by
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                        @ballpeen said:

                        Not really.....it's a situation anyone could argue...you don't have to be a celebrity to be able to apply the law.

                        Doesn't Stallworth have a history of law enforcement problems? If this is the case it would be unusual for a regular citizen to get treated with the kid gloves that they are obviously going to be treating Stallworth with.

                        I'm sure he'll also have a civil suit pending as well

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                          OconReconO OconRecon wrote on last edited by
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                          @shepwrite said:

                          When I heard the details...

                          I like the he "flashed his lights and honked his horn" part. How 'bout using those brakes Donte?!

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                            @shepwrite said:

                            When I heard the details...

                            I like the he "flashed his lights and honked his horn" part. How 'bout using those brakes Donte?!

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                            ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                            @oconrecon said:

                            I like the he "flashed his lights and honked his horn" part. How 'bout using those brakes Donte?!

                            You have never been driving a wide road and had somebody start to cross the road in a effort to time it so you go by and they can cross the street to beat all the traffic?

                            If the guy just darts out....sorry, you aren't expecting that....and from the photos I remember, he was stopped pretty close to where the guy was hit, so he probably was breaking...there was no where to go to the left, and with anti-skid breaks these days, you aren't going to leave a skid mark to indicate you are breaking.

                            It will all play out

                            If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                              ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                              Calm down JAD...lol

                              I assume they are lawyers and don't say much about the case, leaving it for trial.

                              Also, I am not assuming anything. I am simply presenting some scenarios that are at least plausible and realistic.

                              Shoot, maybe Donte was playing Death Race 2000 and though a Mexican crossing the road was worth 50 points.

                              Point is I don't know what happened or how it played out, but it seems many are pretty eager to convict the guy without knowing what they are talking about.

                              If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                                Riffer XR Riffer X wrote on last edited by
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                                Stallworth will never play for the Browns again, it is time to put that officially to rest.

                                Is a pig's ass pork?
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                                  Stallworth will never play for the Browns again, it is time to put that officially to rest.

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                                  ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                                  @riffer-x said:

                                  Stallworth will never play for the Browns again, it is time to put that officially to rest.

                                  I tend to agree.

                                  If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                                    ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                                    the fact that he's a high paid athlete I think he should have more to lose than just your normal every day guy. and I'd say the same thing if he was a politician, movie star ect.

                                    You lose me there.

                                    You don't have different levels of the law for different classes...though it seems many these days seem ready to rape and pillage anybody or anything that isn't getting federal assistance.

                                    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                                      Playing in the NFL is a privledge??????????? It's a damn job that a few talented people earn.... Privledge, I don't think so.....

                                      T.Dawg

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                                        @oconrecon said:

                                        I like the he "flashed his lights and honked his horn" part. How 'bout using those brakes Donte?!

                                        You have never been driving a wide road and had somebody start to cross the road in a effort to time it so you go by and they can cross the street to beat all the traffic?

                                        If the guy just darts out....sorry, you aren't expecting that....and from the photos I remember, he was stopped pretty close to where the guy was hit, so he probably was breaking...there was no where to go to the left, and with anti-skid breaks these days, you aren't going to leave a skid mark to indicate you are breaking.

                                        It will all play out

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                                        @ballpeen said:

                                        You have never been driving a wide road and had somebody start to cross the road in a effort to time it so you go by and they can cross the street to beat all the traffic?

                                        If the guy just darts out....sorry, you aren't expecting that....and from the photos I remember, he was stopped pretty close to where the guy was hit, so he probably was breaking...there was no where to go to the left, and with anti-skid breaks these days, you aren't going to leave a skid mark to indicate you are breaking.

                                        It will all play out

                                        Exactly. This isn't exactly some side street bereft of traffic.

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                                          ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                                          @shepwrite said:

                                          Right. Like I said, when I read that the guy was running across a causeway, it occurred to me that Stallworth wouldn't be locked in a dungeon somewhere for this. If he hadn't been over the limit, there may have been no charges at all.

                                          He'll get aggravated DUI, I bet. There's also vehicular homicide, right?

                                          You put the two together and you end up with the 12 years being talked about.

                                          Now it looks like the vehicular homicide is what the defense is going to argue be dropped and just the DUI is going to be sought. No getting around that.

                                          Many DUI laws were hastily written under pressure from mad mothers....if you were over the limit, you were assumed at fault with everything in the world even when in some circumstances the alcohol had absolutely nothing to do with the accident...like you going through a green traffic signal and someone else runs the red. The crazy thinking was you shouldn't have been there in the first place, so if you weren't, the accident wouldn't have happened.

                                          Crazy

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