Stallworth update
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But, an average citizen probably couldn't afford the lawyers necessary to get off
Everybody is afforded counsel.
This isn't such a obscure component of that states law that it would require a crack team of attorneys and clerks researching the dusty volumes.
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Even if he gets a break it really doesnt matter with the new guys we have aquired stallworth most likely wont be able to make the team...
We have been rebuilding since 1964, Why stop now? GO BROWNS! -
Even if he gets a break it really doesnt matter with the new guys we have aquired stallworth most likely wont be able to make the team...
Even if he gets a break it really doesnt matter with the new guys we have aquired stallworth most likely wont be able to make the team...
Hey, I hope the BEST for him, but I don't want him back HERE.
Like I said, if some idiot ran out in the middle of a 5-6 lane highway illeagaly and got creamed by any of you, ALL of you would have said "So what if I had a drink or two, the asshole shouldn't have been in the middle of a freakin HIGHWAY" in the back of your heads.
Lighten up on the guy.
If he hadn't had a drink he'd be off scott free right now.
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Even if he gets a break it really doesnt matter with the new guys we have aquired stallworth most likely wont be able to make the team...
Even if he gets a break it really doesnt matter with the new guys we have aquired stallworth most likely wont be able to make the team...
He could probably make it......but he may not be wanted at this point.
As Al said.....he probably still faces some form of sanction from the league office.
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Another celebrity/athlete get a break
Not really.....it's a situation anyone could argue...you don't have to be a celebrity to be able to apply the law.
Not really.....it's a situation anyone could argue...you don't have to be a celebrity to be able to apply the law.
Doesn't Stallworth have a history of law enforcement problems? If this is the case it would be unusual for a regular citizen to get treated with the kid gloves that they are obviously going to be treating Stallworth with.
I'm sure he'll also have a civil suit pending as well
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@shepwrite said:
When I heard the details...I like the he "flashed his lights and honked his horn" part. How 'bout using those brakes Donte?!
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@shepwrite said:
When I heard the details...I like the he "flashed his lights and honked his horn" part. How 'bout using those brakes Donte?!
I like the he "flashed his lights and honked his horn" part. How 'bout using those brakes Donte?!
You have never been driving a wide road and had somebody start to cross the road in a effort to time it so you go by and they can cross the street to beat all the traffic?
If the guy just darts out....sorry, you aren't expecting that....and from the photos I remember, he was stopped pretty close to where the guy was hit, so he probably was breaking...there was no where to go to the left, and with anti-skid breaks these days, you aren't going to leave a skid mark to indicate you are breaking.
It will all play out
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Calm down JAD...lol
I assume they are lawyers and don't say much about the case, leaving it for trial.
Also, I am not assuming anything. I am simply presenting some scenarios that are at least plausible and realistic.
Shoot, maybe Donte was playing Death Race 2000 and though a Mexican crossing the road was worth 50 points.
Point is I don't know what happened or how it played out, but it seems many are pretty eager to convict the guy without knowing what they are talking about.
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Stallworth will never play for the Browns again, it is time to put that officially to rest.
Is a pig's ass pork? -
Stallworth will never play for the Browns again, it is time to put that officially to rest.
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the fact that he's a high paid athlete I think he should have more to lose than just your normal every day guy. and I'd say the same thing if he was a politician, movie star ect.
You lose me there.
You don't have different levels of the law for different classes...though it seems many these days seem ready to rape and pillage anybody or anything that isn't getting federal assistance.
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Playing in the NFL is a privledge??????????? It's a damn job that a few talented people earn.... Privledge, I don't think so.....
T.Dawg
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I like the he "flashed his lights and honked his horn" part. How 'bout using those brakes Donte?!
You have never been driving a wide road and had somebody start to cross the road in a effort to time it so you go by and they can cross the street to beat all the traffic?
If the guy just darts out....sorry, you aren't expecting that....and from the photos I remember, he was stopped pretty close to where the guy was hit, so he probably was breaking...there was no where to go to the left, and with anti-skid breaks these days, you aren't going to leave a skid mark to indicate you are breaking.
It will all play out
You have never been driving a wide road and had somebody start to cross the road in a effort to time it so you go by and they can cross the street to beat all the traffic?
If the guy just darts out....sorry, you aren't expecting that....and from the photos I remember, he was stopped pretty close to where the guy was hit, so he probably was breaking...there was no where to go to the left, and with anti-skid breaks these days, you aren't going to leave a skid mark to indicate you are breaking.
It will all play out
Exactly. This isn't exactly some side street bereft of traffic.
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@shepwrite said:
Right. Like I said, when I read that the guy was running across a causeway, it occurred to me that Stallworth wouldn't be locked in a dungeon somewhere for this. If he hadn't been over the limit, there may have been no charges at all.He'll get aggravated DUI, I bet. There's also vehicular homicide, right?
You put the two together and you end up with the 12 years being talked about.
Now it looks like the vehicular homicide is what the defense is going to argue be dropped and just the DUI is going to be sought. No getting around that.
Many DUI laws were hastily written under pressure from mad mothers....if you were over the limit, you were assumed at fault with everything in the world even when in some circumstances the alcohol had absolutely nothing to do with the accident...like you going through a green traffic signal and someone else runs the red. The crazy thinking was you shouldn't have been there in the first place, so if you weren't, the accident wouldn't have happened.
Crazy
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@shepwrite said:
When I heard the details, I knew he wasn't doing hard time. The guy was jaywalking on a causeway where cars drive 55. It doesn't absolve Stallworth but it mitigates for sure. Now it becomes a horrifically unfortunate incident that required multiple elements... one of which was Stallworth's nominal intoxication (he wasn't trashed... wasn't it like .12?).He will be punished -- should be -- but it won't be huge.
Where does he fit on the Browns' roster? No idea. If the Browns can cope with the PR issues and feel that Stallworth is truly repentant and willing to face the music, he would rank above Patten and Furrey, I'd think. He's a natural slot.
Sad but true however if it was any of us that had time to flash our lights and still hit a jaywalker with our blood alcohol at 0.125 we would do 8 years or more regardless of the circumstances....hehehehehe
I never had faith that stallworth could help this club to begin with so i figure its only a matter of time before the browns organization cuts him loose being he has had problems in the past not to mention the league itself does not take kindly to these kind of things...
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The pressure grows yearly as the population continues to grow and more and more alcohol related accidents occur. Not to mention a tragic accident that the media gets a hold of, it puts tremendous pressure on local courts with special interest lobbyists.
Mitch Albom was grandstanding after the Angels pitcher got killed claiming we shouldn't even have alcohol commercials anymore. So many people use this stuff as moral crusading and for people who like to have a few and can handle it it sucks pretty bad. Not having the ability to drive across town knowing that you'll probably blow over the limit when pulled over for some kind of make believe Bs really sucks, and the penalties will screw your life up good.
Most of this is due to population increase and more drivers on the road, it's really that simple. Plus, it is a major revenue maker obviously.
Not condoning driving effed up BTW.
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Not condoning driving effed up BTW.
I know you're not. .08 is extremely low. Most anybody can drive a vehicle at .12, and most of us probably have without any severe consequences. Face it, they aren't going to set the legal limit just below the point people are weaving...it's set at about half.
I agree, the penalty v the offense is very severe.
Heck, when I was a young guy the cops most times would just follow you home and tell you to sleep it off.
Times change.
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Stallworth will never play for the Browns again, it is time to put that officially to rest.
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@shepwrite said:
Yes, he was drinking and driving, but a .126 isn't the story of a guy who got hammered and then behind the wheel. Probably means about 4 drinks, I'm guessing but time is a factor. Based on the time (early morning) could be the story of a guy who tried to sleep it off a little and thought he had.The typical male can expect a rise in BAC (Blood Alcohol content) of .02 per drink. For a smaller person or a female, it's more like .03 per drink. A more muscular person has less of a rise in BAC per drink than a person with a higher percentage of body fat. It takes about an hour for the liver to bring that back down to zero given no further drinking. .12 BAC is sufficient to impair senses, balance, and reflexes as well as judgment. At a rate of .02-.03 per hour it would have taken an additional 4-6 hours of "sleeping it off" to get back down to zero.
FYI, these rules don't change for sporting events and tailgating. People who live in glass houses ....
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They won't release him till he legal processions are made and probably not till after the Commish makes his ruling.
Don't want to convict him so to speak before they do legally.
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