Hue "irate" with Haden cut
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Look, the bottom line is this; Analytics can be a PART of the equation but it is NOT the answer, period.
The Browns F.O. should have kept Terrel Pryor, Joe Haden, Desmond Bryant and John Greco.
We gave Kenny Britt the contract that Pryor deserved. So what if it was going to be a little bit more money. You have to overpay just a little bit to keep great players in an organization that has lost 26 of it's last 28 games. I'm sorry if you just don't get it but "play like a Brown" means nothing to a player that wants to leave a legacy on the NFL. Cleveland is where careers go to die at this point in time. If the difference is a couple of million dollars and we have the cap space, we pay it.
WE HAVE TO KEEP OUR TALENTED PLAYERS AND BUILD THROUGH THE DRAFT.
Pryor and Haden should have been here and they WOULD HAVE made a difference in the outcome Sunday.
We play to win the game. Fuck the moral victories. I'm sick of losing- on purpose.
We gave Kenny Britt the contract that Pryor deserved.
We offered Pryor more money than he got from the Skins.
His agent filled his brain with the idea that he was worth billions. That's not our fault.
.....and the Skins lost the game because he dropped a perfectly thrown ball in the end zone. (right in his hands, right in stride)
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When are people gonna understand that the game is won or lost in the trenches? OL and DL are the foundation of a championship team. Open holes for your RBs, and stop the opposition's by not allowing the same.
When JT retires we're fucked.
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He has come into his own...now? You mean like just during yesterday's game? So last year he was raw....and now he is ripe? (Is that why he stunk up the joint?) A ripe crabapple is still a crabapple. Its not like it becomes a Golden Delicious (Eli?) Apple just because it has been sitting around the bowl awhile.
He was something like a 79 last year via pff as a rookie. Did you read the article? Frankly which is usually par for the course you dont know what you are talking about when it comes to other teams in the league. He finished strong last season and had a great camp. Brown torches everyone and he held his own against brown. There is no better test in the nfl for a corner.
He was something like a 79 last year via pff as a rookie. Did you read the article? Frankly which is usually par for the course you dont know what you are talking about when it comes to other teams in the league. He finished strong last season and had a great camp. Brown torches everyone and he held his own against brown. There is no better test in the nfl for a corner.
Well.....lets perhaps agree on this: Burns is the best CB on the Pittsburgh Steelers. How is that? (and I don't give a shit what the article said....he is still "just a guy")
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I love Body Count BUT he's no Joe Haden.
... and in 2 years you'll all call him washed up and proclaim diminished skills... God forbid he gets injured- It'll be a blood bath induced witch hunt.
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i am personally so glad to have 'internet' friends like PoG that are as passionate as me about this suck ass organization as i am.
he might be blinded by loyalty but it's not from drinking urself blind for 40+ years and still putting up with the same old SHIT from this franchise year to year.
my friends here ask me all the time why i'm still such a fan of THE BROWNS and i say it's all about loyalty. high school (sandusky blue streaks), college (i can name 5 in OH), then CLEVE browns cuz i can remember when they were all good until money, politics and bad decision making have made most irrelevant.
fucking greedy liberal commies.
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He was something like a 79 last year via pff as a rookie. Did you read the article? Frankly which is usually par for the course you dont know what you are talking about when it comes to other teams in the league. He finished strong last season and had a great camp. Brown torches everyone and he held his own against brown. There is no better test in the nfl for a corner.
Well.....lets perhaps agree on this: Burns is the best CB on the Pittsburgh Steelers. How is that? (and I don't give a shit what the article said....he is still "just a guy")
Well.....lets perhaps agree on this: Burns is the best CB on the Pittsburgh Steelers. How is that? (and I don't give a shit what the article said....he is still "just a guy")
Whatever you say gipper lol.
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Well.....lets perhaps agree on this: Burns is the best CB on the Pittsburgh Steelers. How is that? (and I don't give a shit what the article said....he is still "just a guy")
Whatever you say gipper lol.
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Vag... Did you just win?
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Vag... Did you just win?
I only agreed that Burns was likely the best CB on the Steelers. Which may be true. What other candidates are there? Joe Haden. Vag thinks he is the second coming of Darrell Green or Deion Sanders. When the fact is, he is, as I said....just "a guy".
Why, what do you think of him?
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Lane Adkins responds to La Cancera...
Who is Lane Adkins??? no idea, but I like his takes so...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Lane Adkins responds to La Cancera...
Who is Lane Adkins??? no idea, but I like his takes so...
Lane Adkins responds to La Cancera...
Who is Lane Adkins??? no idea, but I like his takes so...
He's one of the regular writers on the Orange & Brown Report. find him on scout.com http://scout.com/nfl/browns the good stuff on OBR you gotta pay for, to be an "Insider" just like ESPN.
I should mention (going way back) this is an offspring of our old AOL Board. No one was better in the Dark Years at shooting down Baltimore trolls (hahaha we stole your team) than Barry McBride- aka Art Beitz. Since he had Internet skills- started a site called "The Ravens Suck Zone". Was so good at it Kosar noticed it and it became Bernie's Insiders, which begat the OBR. Barry's no longer involved with it- AFAIK. Need I mention- Ghoolie's permanently banned from their forums. Pure Football has a few guys there that really know their stuff, but I haven't visited in years.
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Vag... Did you just win?
Gipper knows zero about burns, id say thats as close to a win as gipper will ever allow.
Burns will be a top 10 corner at some point in his career. I expect to see a big jump this season. The flawed but apparently used regularly here pff ranking gave him a 78 or a 79 for the browns game.
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Could be... but the better Burns plays, the busier Joe will be...
So far I've ID'd two plays where we had Joe beat deep... I'll update you as I go.
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Could be... but the better Burns plays, the busier Joe will be...
So far I've ID'd two plays where we had Joe beat deep... I'll update you as I go.
Could be... but the better Burns plays, the busier Joe will be...
So far I've ID'd two plays where we had Joe beat deep... I'll update you as I go.
He wasnt signed to be a world beater. Id rather have him opposite burns than cockrell who we traded to the giants.
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He wasnt signed to be a world beater. Id rather have him opposite burns than cockrell who we traded to the giants.
Oh, I finally reviewed the pass to Williams where "Joe had safety help over the top". He was toast, and safety help got there late. Get ready for a lot of that Vag.
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Vag... Did you just win?
Gipper knows zero about burns, id say thats as close to a win as gipper will ever allow.
Burns will be a top 10 corner at some point in his career. I expect to see a big jump this season. The flawed but apparently used regularly here pff ranking gave him a 78 or a 79 for the browns game.
Gipper knows zero about burns, id say thats as close to a win as gipper will ever allow.
Burns will be a top 10 corner at some point in his career. I expect to see a big jump this season. The flawed but apparently used regularly here pff ranking gave him a 78 or a 79 for the browns game.
I don't overeat burns the way you do overrated clap clap clap clap trap over read it clap clap clap clapI don't overeat burns the way you do overrated clap clap clap clap trap over read it clap clap clap
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Gipper knows zero about burns, id say thats as close to a win as gipper will ever allow.
Burns will be a top 10 corner at some point in his career. I expect to see a big jump this season. The flawed but apparently used regularly here pff ranking gave him a 78 or a 79 for the browns game.
I don't overeat burns the way you do overrated clap clap clap clap trap over read it clap clap clap clapI don't overeat burns the way you do overrated clap clap clap clap trap over read it clap clap clap
I don't overeat burns the way you do overrated clap clap clap clap trap over read it clap clap clap clapI don't overeat burns the way you do overrated clap clap clap clap trap over read it clap clap clap
Wtf. You drinking?
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He wasnt signed to be a world beater. Id rather have him opposite burns than cockrell who we traded to the giants.
Are you crawfishin' on us? Just a tad?
Its not his responsibility. Its the safeties job in that look to be there over the top.
So... that's two professed holes in your improved 2ndary. Do I hear a 3rd?
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He wasnt signed to be a world beater. Id rather have him opposite burns than cockrell who we traded to the giants.
Are you crawfishin' on us? Just a tad?
Its not his responsibility. Its the safeties job in that look to be there over the top.
So... that's two professed holes in your improved 2ndary. Do I hear a 3rd?
Are you crawfishin' on us? Just a tad?
So... that's two professed holes in your improved 2ndary. Do I hear a 3rd?
Sean davis was a rookie last season with a limited amount of play time and mike Mitchell missed almost all of training camp. Working out the kinks. Hardly cause for major concern just as i think haden's decline has been overblown here.
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