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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @200lbmumford said:

    I've never understood two regimes both ignoring the upside of using Duke Johnson more.  And I'll never understand Hue Jackson's quick abandonment of the run repeatedly.

    Again....the only plausible reason is because the Browns are always playing from behind.

    @the-gipper said:

    Again....the only plausible reason is because the Browns are always playing from behind.

    Yeah, I get what you're saying, but he's (in my not so humble opinion) abandoning it too early when we're only down 1-2 scores.  I like Hue but I'd like to see him change his mindset here a little.

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  • 200lbMumford2 200lbMumford

    @the-gipper said:

    Again....the only plausible reason is because the Browns are always playing from behind.

    Yeah, I get what you're saying, but he's (in my not so humble opinion) abandoning it too early when we're only down 1-2 scores.  I like Hue but I'd like to see him change his mindset here a little.

    @200lbmumford said:

    Yeah, I get what you're saying, but he's (in my not so humble opinion) abandoning it too early when we're only down 1-2 scores.  I like Hue but I'd like to see him change his mindset here a little.

    Exactly it's not like we've been 21 points behind in these games. The pass/run ratio with a rookie QB has been stupid. 

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  • Canton DawgC Canton Dawg

    I have several issues with Hue as the OC;

    1) Why does it take so long to get the play to the huddle?

    2) When the play finally makes it to the QB, they're already short on clock, but Hue has them sidestepping & square dancing before the snap.

    3) Why does Hue give up on the running game so quickly?

    4) When the Browns have the ball 1st & goal inside the 5, he always tries one of those cute little WR bubble screens (that NEVER work).

    My patience with Hue is wearing thin as it is, but he REALLY needs to hire an OC...cause basically he really sucks at it. 

    @canton-dawg said:

    I have several issues with Hue as the OC;

    1) Why does it take so long to get the play to the huddle?

    2) When the play finally makes it to the QB, they're already short on clock, but Hue has them sidestepping & square dancing before the snap.

    3) Why does Hue give up on the running game so quickly?

    4) When the Browns have the ball 1st & goal inside the 5, he always tries one of those cute little WR bubble screens (that NEVER work).

    My patience with Hue is wearing thin as it is, but he REALLY needs to hire an OC...cause basically he really sucks at it. 

    Canton just completely nailed it with #4.  I've seen these work with OTHER teams, but I've NEVER seen it work with us.  Although it wasn't a bubble screen, that play call to have Kizer run it in from the 5 was such bullshit.  I don't mind the IDEA, but the play was so awful.  He's not fast enough to really get the edge on that, and where is the hole supposed to be there?  No, the PROPER play for Kizer to run it in would be a QB draw!!  How many times has that effing play worked against us?!  I know Dalton has done it like 3 times (at least), Ben probably has, and I'm guessing Flacco for good measure.  QB draw...not QB hesitate and lose 4 yards.  

    I HATE our red zone offense.  Hate, hate, hate.  In fact, I'm going to make a new thread topic that revolves around this, but I don't have the time right now (I know you all can't wait!).

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  • 200lbMumford2 200lbMumford

    @the-gipper said:

    Again....the only plausible reason is because the Browns are always playing from behind.

    Yeah, I get what you're saying, but he's (in my not so humble opinion) abandoning it too early when we're only down 1-2 scores.  I like Hue but I'd like to see him change his mindset here a little.

    @200lbmumford said:

    Yeah, I get what you're saying, but he's (in my not so humble opinion) abandoning it too early when we're only down 1-2 scores.  I like Hue but I'd like to see him change his mindset here a little.

    I said that it is plausible reasoning that he abandons the running game because the Browns always are following behind......BUT....I am not sure that is the actual reasoning Hue applies.   I think he just falls in love with his own play calling...because he thinks he is some kind of offensive innovator.

    How about this for innovation:   Instead of having your players running around like chickens with their heads cut off, doing all this hairy high school horseshit with having the WRs, TEs, RBs and anyone and everyone going in motion on every play....you line up your OL and your TE...and you put a fullback in there...and you give the ball to your big fast strong RB....and you run the ball down the fucking throat of the defense.  Not on every play....but often enough to show that you can and will manhandle a defense.  You spent 100 million dollars on an offensive line to do just that....so fucking do it already.

  • Now why would you want to set up you rookie QB for any PA passes off that formation? 🙄

  • I'm pretty sure those Wiki refs were authored by Hue... 🙂

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196

  • in regards to his lone season at oakland... there was a reason to fire him after a year even after going 8-8... for 26 games weve seen his playcalling and his abilities as an offensive guru. PASS

  • Hue needs to get a clue, and stop sniffing glue,

    hire an Offensive coordinator, who is tried and true..

    Put together a team, that can win more than one game

    And boost up our spirits, instead of always being lame..

    Our Browns must win, and continue to fight

    Do whats best for this team

    Let's make it right..

    Our history is rich.

    but the expansion team has been bad

    I want to be happy on Sundays

    instead of always feeling mad..

    We need cheerleaders

    not some dude in a bone mask..

    We need to stop being bottom-feeders

    and get up to the task..

    For its 1...2...3 and out disasters

    turnovers, and penalties

    that make us lose games faster

    Clean this up Hue,

    and make all of us proud

    Because when it is gameday

    We all get very loud..

  • D domcucch1994

    Hue needs to get a clue, and stop sniffing glue,

    hire an Offensive coordinator, who is tried and true..

    Put together a team, that can win more than one game

    And boost up our spirits, instead of always being lame..

    Our Browns must win, and continue to fight

    Do whats best for this team

    Let's make it right..

    Our history is rich.

    but the expansion team has been bad

    I want to be happy on Sundays

    instead of always feeling mad..

    We need cheerleaders

    not some dude in a bone mask..

    We need to stop being bottom-feeders

    and get up to the task..

    For its 1...2...3 and out disasters

    turnovers, and penalties

    that make us lose games faster

    Clean this up Hue,

    and make all of us proud

    Because when it is gameday

    We all get very loud..

    @domcucch1994 said:

    Hue needs to get a clue, and stop sniffing glue,

    hire an Offensive coordinator, who is tried and true..

    Put together a team, that can win more than one game

    And boost up our spirits, instead of always being lame..

    Our Browns must win, and continue to fight

    Do whats best for this team

    Let's make it right..

    Our history is rich.

    but the expansion team has been bad

    I want to be happy on Sundays

    instead of always feeling mad..

    We need cheerleaders

    not some dude in a bone mask..

    We need to stop being bottom-feeders

    and get up to the task..

    For its 1...2...3 and out disasters

    turnovers, and penalties

    that make us lose games faster

    Clean this up Hue,

    and make all of us proud

    Because when it is gameday

    We all get very loud..

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    😂

  • And I'm feelin'... GLAD ALL OVER

    Yes, I'm... GLAD ALL OVER

    Baby, I'm... GLAD ALL OVER

    So glad you're mi-i-i-i-i-ine

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196

  • I didn't really read any of this thread but I can only assume it went something like this: 

    someone stupid as fuck - "Hue should be fired, he sucks" 

    Tour - "Not really, and here's a reason why you're wrong" 

    someone else stupid as fuck - "FUCK YOU YOURE WRONG HUE SUCKS"

    Ghoolie - "Paxton Lynch is good at football and I definitely don't have a tiny dick, have you heard about how successful I am at accordion"

    a third person, also stupid as fuck - "This FO sucks, fire them all. We should have drafted Carson Wentz" 

    I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride
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  • Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out

    I didn't really read any of this thread but I can only assume it went something like this: 

    someone stupid as fuck - "Hue should be fired, he sucks" 

    Tour - "Not really, and here's a reason why you're wrong" 

    someone else stupid as fuck - "FUCK YOU YOURE WRONG HUE SUCKS"

    Ghoolie - "Paxton Lynch is good at football and I definitely don't have a tiny dick, have you heard about how successful I am at accordion"

    a third person, also stupid as fuck - "This FO sucks, fire them all. We should have drafted Carson Wentz" 

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    I didn't really read any of this thread but I can only assume it went something like this: 

    someone stupid as fuck - "Hue should be fired, he sucks" 

    Tour - "Not really, and here's a reason why you're wrong" 

    someone else stupid as fuck - "FUCK YOU YOURE WRONG HUE SUCKS"

    Ghoolie - "Paxton Lynch is good at football and I definitely don't have a tiny dick, have you heard about how successful I am at accordion"

    a third person, also stupid as fuck - "This FO sucks, fire them all. We should have drafted Carson Wentz" 

    Lmao

  • Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out

    I didn't really read any of this thread but I can only assume it went something like this: 

    someone stupid as fuck - "Hue should be fired, he sucks" 

    Tour - "Not really, and here's a reason why you're wrong" 

    someone else stupid as fuck - "FUCK YOU YOURE WRONG HUE SUCKS"

    Ghoolie - "Paxton Lynch is good at football and I definitely don't have a tiny dick, have you heard about how successful I am at accordion"

    a third person, also stupid as fuck - "This FO sucks, fire them all. We should have drafted Carson Wentz" 

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    I didn't really read any of this thread but I can only assume it went something like this: 

    someone stupid as fuck - "Hue should be fired, he sucks" 

    Tour - "Not really, and here's a reason why you're wrong" 

    someone else stupid as fuck - "FUCK YOU YOURE WRONG HUE SUCKS"

    Ghoolie - "Paxton Lynch is good at football and I definitely don't have a tiny dick, have you heard about how successful I am at accordion"

    a third person, also stupid as fuck - "This FO sucks, fire them all. We should have drafted Carson Wentz" 

    It's the same dialogue.. Year in and year out!😵

    Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
  • Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out

    I didn't really read any of this thread but I can only assume it went something like this: 

    someone stupid as fuck - "Hue should be fired, he sucks" 

    Tour - "Not really, and here's a reason why you're wrong" 

    someone else stupid as fuck - "FUCK YOU YOURE WRONG HUE SUCKS"

    Ghoolie - "Paxton Lynch is good at football and I definitely don't have a tiny dick, have you heard about how successful I am at accordion"

    a third person, also stupid as fuck - "This FO sucks, fire them all. We should have drafted Carson Wentz" 

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    I didn't really read any of this thread but I can only assume it went something like this: 

    someone stupid as fuck - "Hue should be fired, he sucks" 

    Tour - "Not really, and here's a reason why you're wrong" 

    someone else stupid as fuck - "FUCK YOU YOURE WRONG HUE SUCKS"

    Ghoolie - "Paxton Lynch is good at football and I definitely don't have a tiny dick, have you heard about how successful I am at accordion"

    a third person, also stupid as fuck - "This FO sucks, fire them all. We should have drafted Carson Wentz" 

    You discount the poetry?

  • I doubt hiring a OC will do much. This is Hue's offense much like the Bengals defense is Marvin's. He needs a capable QB to make the correct reads. Kizer is not that guy.

  • H Hempman

    I doubt hiring a OC will do much. This is Hue's offense much like the Bengals defense is Marvin's. He needs a capable QB to make the correct reads. Kizer is not that guy.

    @hempman said:

    I doubt hiring a OC will do much. This is Hue's offense much like the Bengals defense is Marvin's. He needs a capable QB to make the correct reads. Kizer is not that guy.

    Way too early.

  • Everyone always wants to toss out the OC like everything is HIS fault.

    We ran Bruce Arians out of town like a common pygmy.

    BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE

  • Well....Ive been on board for an OC since we hired Hue......they need one desperately.....

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  • MudflyM Mudfly

    Well....Ive been on board for an OC since we hired Hue......they need one desperately.....

    @mudfly said:

    Well....Ive been on board for an OC since we hired Hue......they need one desperately.....

    Me too, I’m against having a rookie QB throw 40 to 50 times a game to a bunch of substandard WR’s.

    Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney

  • Yep we all sat thru the Shi$ Show we seen with Ravens. But as all football junkies would do? Most still watched GB at Atl..Put all the Playmaker on offense aside & just read the play by play of the plays ran by both Teams. Atl. has a new OC but knows situation football ..Proven in first drive from 14 yrd.line..All night both sides #1.would run ball out of Shotgun on 1st or 2nd down..#2. QB under center would throw short or medium routes..#3.2nd downs & under 4ish..Took a deep shot.#5.1st & 10-run a WR hand-off with Gabriel/Cobb off the end for 6-8yrds....We have a suppose'it better OL than both? We got some talented names on Offense? No not GB or Atl. names..But just get lined up..And quit being so damn predicable..   

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