QB for 2017
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I feel ya Hoorta, I do. But I really don't think that Hue has a clue.
If it is how you say it is, then why start Osweiler above the other guys the first Preseason game? Why did Hogan not even get the chance to play and then surpass Kessler on the depth chart. Was this decided on how Hogan played on Gameday and not determined while they were practicing all off season? It has clearly been muffed, or mishandled by Hue to begin with.
So, I don't know. What I do know is if Hogan had started the season we had a chance to be 3-0. He would have cleaned up in Indy. He could have given us a better chance against Pit, and if he have been left in the Baltimore game- he just might have won that one too.
PIT and BAL have a 2 game lead on us and CIN is ahead by just one game. We are not out of this yet. We CAN catch them and make this season a success.
Hell, if we beat CIN this weekend then we are moving up one spot and BAL and PIT are just one game ahead... unless they win, but they look weak and vulnerable so I think we can take them next time if we get our shit together.
Why did they start Brock? They had $16 million reasons to see if he could revert to Denver form.
Please don't project what could have happened if they had started Hogan. Pure speculation and mostly man-crush opinion on your part. Josh Gordon COULD be playing for the Browns now- if he didn't mess up- or not take drug tests. I hate to remind you, but your Beast Trent Richardson is sitting by the phone waiting for a call. He's been dumped by 3 teams now. His NFL career is over, Grover.
. I hate to remind you, but your Beast Trent Richardson is sitting by the phone waiting for a call. He's been dumped by 3 teams now. His NFL career is over, Grover.
He's making a comeback didn't ya hear? He's signed with a CFL team. He's on his way to the hall of fame baby....
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They never wanted Osweiler, they wanted the draft pick. The draft pick they paid 16 million dollars for and cost us Joe Haden and Terrel Pryor. They started Osweiler to make it LOOK like they were giving him a chance so it didn't look shady... but we're smart enough to see through that ruse.
As for the Camp Battle or whatever shenanigans they were passing off as a QB Competition- Hogan was NEVER once even mentioned or even given the chance to be in it. Trust me, I was watching. All I ever heard from the media was Kizer was in a 3 horse race with Osweiler and Kessler.
So when did Hogan become the #2 QB? Was it when he outperformed all three of the other guys and won back to back games in the preseason? If we are going off of that, why wasn't he given the chance to be the starter for the season instead of 'gifting' it to Kizer.
They always said that nothing was going to be given... but is that not what they have done? They either outright give the position to the player or they get rid of all the competition for the spot and say so and so won the job by default.
The one spot that I give them a pass on was Zane the Kicker. He and Parkey actually competed and even though it was neck and neck - the benefit of the doubt is going to go to the young draft pick with the stronger leg.
You all doubted me on Derek Carr, you should just trust me on this one. I want what's best for the team unlike a certain 'QB guru' turned Head Coach with an agenda.
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I beseech the Mods to do something along the lines doing an autocorrect every time the name "Hogan" is mentioned by lover boy (PoG) here. Like you used to do with Retard. Only thing is...what would be a good name to change it to?
Well...it could be "Lover Boy". Or it could be Sargent Schultz or Captain Klink...or something. I don't know...take suggestions like you did when you came up with Retard.
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Hogan, hand and PoG-yep defines a love triangle to a T.
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@boo-fagley said:
I would go all out for Josh Allen.
Darnold will go first, but the Browns wont be picking 1st because they will win some games. This team is better than 0 - 3. The Browns luck is going to change. I like to say every franchise has their shot with a Super Bowl winning QB.
Right now there's 6 teams (by my count) at 1-2 or 0-3 who will either be looking for that franchise guy, or will seriously consider drafting one high to get the QBOTF to eventually replace an ageing vet (Saints, Chargers).
Yeah, the Browns have enough draft ammunition to get almost anyone they want. If they're not drafting #1 overall again, and Darnold is looked on as another Luck level talent- that's going to be out of reasonable reach
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I beseech the Mods to do something along the lines doing an autocorrect every time the name "Hogan" is mentioned by lover boy (PoG) here. Like you used to do with Retard. Only thing is...what would be a good name to change it to?
Well...it could be "Lover Boy". Or it could be Sargent Schultz or Captain Klink...or something. I don't know...take suggestions like you did when you came up with Retard.
I beseech the Mods to do something along the lines doing an autocorrect every time the name "Hogan" is mentioned by lover boy (PoG) here. Like you used to do with Retard. Only thing is...what would be a good name to change it to?
Well...it could be "Lover Boy". Or it could be Sargent Schultz or Captain Klink...or something. I don't know...take suggestions like you did when you came up with Retard.
But, but but- what if PO is right?
Ah, come on Gip, let him enjoy his little fantasy. He's way less obnoxious than Ghoolie. Of the latter, I'd be first in line to have Zombo change his screen name to POS Troll.
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I beseech the Mods to do something along the lines doing an autocorrect every time the name "Hogan" is mentioned by lover boy (PoG) here. Like you used to do with Retard. Only thing is...what would be a good name to change it to?
Well...it could be "Lover Boy". Or it could be Sargent Schultz or Captain Klink...or something. I don't know...take suggestions like you did when you came up with Retard.
But, but but- what if PO is right?
Ah, come on Gip, let him enjoy his little fantasy. He's way less obnoxious than Ghoolie. Of the latter, I'd be first in line to have Zombo change his screen name to POS Troll.
But, but but- what if PO is right?
Ah, come on Gip, let him enjoy his little fantasy. He's way less obnoxious than Ghoolie. Of the latter, I'd be first in line to have Zombo change his screen name to POS Troll.
I'd rather he just delete his account like he requested earlier today.
YOu mean like PoG was right about Manziel and Richardson and where is this Josh Gordon guy he's always jerking off over?
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But, but but- what if PO is right?
Ah, come on Gip, let him enjoy his little fantasy. He's way less obnoxious than Ghoolie. Of the latter, I'd be first in line to have Zombo change his screen name to POS Troll.
I'd rather he just delete his account like he requested earlier today.
YOu mean like PoG was right about Manziel and Richardson and where is this Josh Gordon guy he's always jerking off over?
I'd rather he just delete his account like he requested earlier today.
YOu mean like PoG was right about Manziel and Richardson and where is this Josh Gordon guy he's always jerking off over?
He was right about Carr and Honey Badger, that's about it. Tyrann had more red flags coming out than you can see at the United Nations....
What was disconcerting was when he was still pimping Richardson long after his career went in the dumpster- that would be to anyone who was being 1\2 objective.
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I'd rather he just delete his account like he requested earlier today.
YOu mean like PoG was right about Manziel and Richardson and where is this Josh Gordon guy he's always jerking off over?
He was right about Carr and Honey Badger, that's about it. Tyrann had more red flags coming out than you can see at the United Nations....
What was disconcerting was when he was still pimping Richardson long after his career went in the dumpster- that would be to anyone who was being 1\2 objective.
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This is typical Browns mentality PO. Throw the QB under the bus after he has a couple bad games. If Hue thought Hogan gave him a better chance to win games, he'd be starting. You don't think on a realistic level- Hue knows he has to win at least four games this year, or there's a mighty good chance he's going to get fired? The coaches watch everything, break down every play, and see these guys every day in practice. My wild guess is Kizer has at least 3 more chances to prove he sucks (maybe 5 till the bye) before you're going to get your wish- barring injury.
FYI- I've already said I wasn't enamored of Kizer at Notre Dame, he's still playing the same way I saw in college, and I actually like what I've seen out of Hogan. I'm not coaching the Browns- and neither are you. Deshone continues to suck- you're going to see Kevin in due time. Unfortunately, it will probably be when the season is beyond salvaging. BTW, that's already the case at 0-3 (looking at 0-4) it's time to start looking at next year's draft prospects.
I feel ya Hoorta, I do. But I really don't think that Hue has a clue.
If it is how you say it is, then why start Osweiler above the other guys the first Preseason game? Why did Hogan not even get the chance to play and then surpass Kessler on the depth chart. Was this decided on how Hogan played on Gameday and not determined while they were practicing all off season? It has clearly been muffed, or mishandled by Hue to begin with.
So, I don't know. What I do know is if Hogan had started the season we had a chance to be 3-0. He would have cleaned up in Indy. He could have given us a better chance against Pit, and if he have been left in the Baltimore game- he just might have won that one too.
PIT and BAL have a 2 game lead on us and CIN is ahead by just one game. We are not out of this yet. We CAN catch them and make this season a success.
Hell, if we beat CIN this weekend then we are moving up one spot and BAL and PIT are just one game ahead... unless they win, but they look weak and vulnerable so I think we can take them next time if we get our shit together.
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@boo-fagley said:
I would go all out for Josh Allen.
Darnold will go first, but the Browns wont be picking 1st because they will win some games. This team is better than 0 - 3. The Browns luck is going to change. I like to say every franchise has their shot with a Super Bowl winning QB.
Right now there's 6 teams (by my count) at 1-2 or 0-3 who will either be looking for that franchise guy, or will seriously consider drafting one high to get the QBOTF to eventually replace an ageing vet (Saints, Chargers).
Yeah, the Browns have enough draft ammunition to get almost anyone they want. If they're not drafting #1 overall again, and Darnold is looked on as another Luck level talent- that's going to be out of reasonable reach
Yeah, the Browns have enough draft ammunition to get almost anyone they want. If they're not drafting #1 overall again, and Darnold is looked on as another Luck level talent- that's going to be out of reasonable reach
Not if SF finishes 32nd... no matter who the guy is coming out of college, I think Cousins is their guy.
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I beseech the Mods to do something along the lines doing an autocorrect every time the name "Hogan" is mentioned by lover boy (PoG) here. Like you used to do with Retard. Only thing is...what would be a good name to change it to?
Well...it could be "Lover Boy". Or it could be Sargent Schultz or Captain Klink...or something. I don't know...take suggestions like you did when you came up with Retard.
I beseech the Mods to do something along the lines doing an autocorrect every time the name "Hogan" is mentioned by lover boy (PoG) here. Like you used to do with Retard. Only thing is...what would be a good name to change it to?
Well...it could be "Lover Boy". Or it could be Sargent Schultz or Captain Klink...or something. I don't know...take suggestions like you did when you came up with Retard.
I don't know that anybody on this board has been longer winded or more oppressively pompous than you were about Mitch Trubisky leading up to the draft. As for pog he's calling for the second string quarterback to get into the games. And so far that second string quarterback has look better than the starter.
A starter not even worthy of a first-round pick, a starter who issn't very accurate now nor was he in college. A starter who is struggling to read defenses and get rid of the ball. A starter who, so far, only has size and arm strength on his resume.
Personally I'm not calling for him to get yanked but I hope he gets better. If he doesn't we should all hope that Hogan does rather than constantly bellyaching about him.
WSS
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I'd rather he just delete his account like he requested earlier today.
YOu mean like PoG was right about Manziel and Richardson and where is this Josh Gordon guy he's always jerking off over?
He was right about Carr and Honey Badger, that's about it. Tyrann had more red flags coming out than you can see at the United Nations....
What was disconcerting was when he was still pimping Richardson long after his career went in the dumpster- that would be to anyone who was being 1\2 objective.
He was right about Carr and Honey Badger, that's about it. Tyrann had more red flags coming out than you can see at the United Nations....
What was disconcerting was when he was still pimping Richardson long after his career went in the dumpster- that would be to anyone who was being 1\2 objective.
The old blind squirrel analogy at play there? As far as the Hogan/Captain Klink suggestion....well, that is just a little bit of fun at his expense. I may have to just do it on my own....from now on, for me anyway, Hogan is Captain Klink.
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I beseech the Mods to do something along the lines doing an autocorrect every time the name "Hogan" is mentioned by lover boy (PoG) here. Like you used to do with Retard. Only thing is...what would be a good name to change it to?
Well...it could be "Lover Boy". Or it could be Sargent Schultz or Captain Klink...or something. I don't know...take suggestions like you did when you came up with Retard.
I don't know that anybody on this board has been longer winded or more oppressively pompous than you were about Mitch Trubisky leading up to the draft. As for pog he's calling for the second string quarterback to get into the games. And so far that second string quarterback has look better than the starter.
A starter not even worthy of a first-round pick, a starter who issn't very accurate now nor was he in college. A starter who is struggling to read defenses and get rid of the ball. A starter who, so far, only has size and arm strength on his resume.
Personally I'm not calling for him to get yanked but I hope he gets better. If he doesn't we should all hope that Hogan does rather than constantly bellyaching about him.
WSS
I don't know that anybody on this board has been longer winded or more oppressively pompous than you were about Mitch Trubisky leading up to the draft. As for pog he's calling for the second string quarterback to get into the games. And so far that second string quarterback has look better than the starter.
Actually, you do know that others have been more oppressively pompous about players. The big difference is that I was right. MT was taken with the #2 overall pick...higher than I or most others expected him to go. And Hogan was a UDFA....who was cut by the team that originally signed him (Chiefs?)
A starter not even worthy of a first-round pick, a starter who issn't very accurate now nor was he in college. A starter who is struggling to read defenses and get rid of the ball. A starter who, so far, only has size and arm strength on his resume.
Personally I'm not calling for him to get yanked but I hope he gets better. If he doesn't we should all hope that Hogan does rather than constantly bellyaching about him.
I don't know if I would say Hogan has looked better. I think that is debatable.
WSS
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And Hogan is on his 3rd year as a pro and 2nd year here so I would expect him to initially be a little better, but that does not make him our future. If at the end of the season we see no improvement with the Kaiser, then ok, maybe your are right about him. Right now it's way too early to make that judgement.
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And Hogan is on his 3rd year as a pro and 2nd year here so I would expect him to initially be a little better, but that does not make him our future. If at the end of the season we see no improvement with the Kaiser, then ok, maybe your are right about him. Right now it's way too early to make that judgement.
And Hogan is on his 3rd year as a pro and 2nd year here so I would expect him to initially be a little better, but that does not make him our future. If at the end of the season we see no improvement with the Kaiser, then ok, maybe your are right about him. Right now it's way too early to make that judgement.
Actually, no I don't think that is right. This is only Hogan's second year, no? He and Kessler came out the same year.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HogaKe00.htm
I am not against Hogan....I just think that PoG slavering over him as if he were to become some kind of savior is absurd.
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And Hogan is on his 3rd year as a pro and 2nd year here so I would expect him to initially be a little better, but that does not make him our future. If at the end of the season we see no improvement with the Kaiser, then ok, maybe your are right about him. Right now it's way too early to make that judgement.
Actually, no I don't think that is right. This is only Hogan's second year, no? He and Kessler came out the same year.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HogaKe00.htm
I am not against Hogan....I just think that PoG slavering over him as if he were to become some kind of savior is absurd.
Actually, no I don't think that is right. This is only Hogan's second year, no? He and Kessler came out the same year.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HogaKe00.htm
I am not against Hogan....I just think that PoG slavering over him as if he were to become some kind of savior is absurd.
You are correct. My bad. For some reason I thought he was with KC a full year before we got him. Apparently not. He was released by them Sept. the same year he was drafted.
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