QB for 2017
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I beseech the Mods to do something along the lines doing an autocorrect every time the name "Hogan" is mentioned by lover boy (PoG) here. Like you used to do with Retard. Only thing is...what would be a good name to change it to?
Well...it could be "Lover Boy". Or it could be Sargent Schultz or Captain Klink...or something. I don't know...take suggestions like you did when you came up with Retard.
I beseech the Mods to do something along the lines doing an autocorrect every time the name "Hogan" is mentioned by lover boy (PoG) here. Like you used to do with Retard. Only thing is...what would be a good name to change it to?
Well...it could be "Lover Boy". Or it could be Sargent Schultz or Captain Klink...or something. I don't know...take suggestions like you did when you came up with Retard.
But, but but- what if PO is right?
Ah, come on Gip, let him enjoy his little fantasy. He's way less obnoxious than Ghoolie. Of the latter, I'd be first in line to have Zombo change his screen name to POS Troll.
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I beseech the Mods to do something along the lines doing an autocorrect every time the name "Hogan" is mentioned by lover boy (PoG) here. Like you used to do with Retard. Only thing is...what would be a good name to change it to?
Well...it could be "Lover Boy". Or it could be Sargent Schultz or Captain Klink...or something. I don't know...take suggestions like you did when you came up with Retard.
But, but but- what if PO is right?
Ah, come on Gip, let him enjoy his little fantasy. He's way less obnoxious than Ghoolie. Of the latter, I'd be first in line to have Zombo change his screen name to POS Troll.
But, but but- what if PO is right?
Ah, come on Gip, let him enjoy his little fantasy. He's way less obnoxious than Ghoolie. Of the latter, I'd be first in line to have Zombo change his screen name to POS Troll.
I'd rather he just delete his account like he requested earlier today.
YOu mean like PoG was right about Manziel and Richardson and where is this Josh Gordon guy he's always jerking off over?
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But, but but- what if PO is right?
Ah, come on Gip, let him enjoy his little fantasy. He's way less obnoxious than Ghoolie. Of the latter, I'd be first in line to have Zombo change his screen name to POS Troll.
I'd rather he just delete his account like he requested earlier today.
YOu mean like PoG was right about Manziel and Richardson and where is this Josh Gordon guy he's always jerking off over?
I'd rather he just delete his account like he requested earlier today.
YOu mean like PoG was right about Manziel and Richardson and where is this Josh Gordon guy he's always jerking off over?
He was right about Carr and Honey Badger, that's about it. Tyrann had more red flags coming out than you can see at the United Nations....
What was disconcerting was when he was still pimping Richardson long after his career went in the dumpster- that would be to anyone who was being 1\2 objective.
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I'd rather he just delete his account like he requested earlier today.
YOu mean like PoG was right about Manziel and Richardson and where is this Josh Gordon guy he's always jerking off over?
He was right about Carr and Honey Badger, that's about it. Tyrann had more red flags coming out than you can see at the United Nations....
What was disconcerting was when he was still pimping Richardson long after his career went in the dumpster- that would be to anyone who was being 1\2 objective.
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This is typical Browns mentality PO. Throw the QB under the bus after he has a couple bad games. If Hue thought Hogan gave him a better chance to win games, he'd be starting. You don't think on a realistic level- Hue knows he has to win at least four games this year, or there's a mighty good chance he's going to get fired? The coaches watch everything, break down every play, and see these guys every day in practice. My wild guess is Kizer has at least 3 more chances to prove he sucks (maybe 5 till the bye) before you're going to get your wish- barring injury.
FYI- I've already said I wasn't enamored of Kizer at Notre Dame, he's still playing the same way I saw in college, and I actually like what I've seen out of Hogan. I'm not coaching the Browns- and neither are you. Deshone continues to suck- you're going to see Kevin in due time. Unfortunately, it will probably be when the season is beyond salvaging. BTW, that's already the case at 0-3 (looking at 0-4) it's time to start looking at next year's draft prospects.
I feel ya Hoorta, I do. But I really don't think that Hue has a clue.
If it is how you say it is, then why start Osweiler above the other guys the first Preseason game? Why did Hogan not even get the chance to play and then surpass Kessler on the depth chart. Was this decided on how Hogan played on Gameday and not determined while they were practicing all off season? It has clearly been muffed, or mishandled by Hue to begin with.
So, I don't know. What I do know is if Hogan had started the season we had a chance to be 3-0. He would have cleaned up in Indy. He could have given us a better chance against Pit, and if he have been left in the Baltimore game- he just might have won that one too.
PIT and BAL have a 2 game lead on us and CIN is ahead by just one game. We are not out of this yet. We CAN catch them and make this season a success.
Hell, if we beat CIN this weekend then we are moving up one spot and BAL and PIT are just one game ahead... unless they win, but they look weak and vulnerable so I think we can take them next time if we get our shit together.
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@boo-fagley said:
I would go all out for Josh Allen.
Darnold will go first, but the Browns wont be picking 1st because they will win some games. This team is better than 0 - 3. The Browns luck is going to change. I like to say every franchise has their shot with a Super Bowl winning QB.
Right now there's 6 teams (by my count) at 1-2 or 0-3 who will either be looking for that franchise guy, or will seriously consider drafting one high to get the QBOTF to eventually replace an ageing vet (Saints, Chargers).
Yeah, the Browns have enough draft ammunition to get almost anyone they want. If they're not drafting #1 overall again, and Darnold is looked on as another Luck level talent- that's going to be out of reasonable reach
Yeah, the Browns have enough draft ammunition to get almost anyone they want. If they're not drafting #1 overall again, and Darnold is looked on as another Luck level talent- that's going to be out of reasonable reach
Not if SF finishes 32nd... no matter who the guy is coming out of college, I think Cousins is their guy.
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I beseech the Mods to do something along the lines doing an autocorrect every time the name "Hogan" is mentioned by lover boy (PoG) here. Like you used to do with Retard. Only thing is...what would be a good name to change it to?
Well...it could be "Lover Boy". Or it could be Sargent Schultz or Captain Klink...or something. I don't know...take suggestions like you did when you came up with Retard.
I beseech the Mods to do something along the lines doing an autocorrect every time the name "Hogan" is mentioned by lover boy (PoG) here. Like you used to do with Retard. Only thing is...what would be a good name to change it to?
Well...it could be "Lover Boy". Or it could be Sargent Schultz or Captain Klink...or something. I don't know...take suggestions like you did when you came up with Retard.
I don't know that anybody on this board has been longer winded or more oppressively pompous than you were about Mitch Trubisky leading up to the draft. As for pog he's calling for the second string quarterback to get into the games. And so far that second string quarterback has look better than the starter.
A starter not even worthy of a first-round pick, a starter who issn't very accurate now nor was he in college. A starter who is struggling to read defenses and get rid of the ball. A starter who, so far, only has size and arm strength on his resume.
Personally I'm not calling for him to get yanked but I hope he gets better. If he doesn't we should all hope that Hogan does rather than constantly bellyaching about him.
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I'd rather he just delete his account like he requested earlier today.
YOu mean like PoG was right about Manziel and Richardson and where is this Josh Gordon guy he's always jerking off over?
He was right about Carr and Honey Badger, that's about it. Tyrann had more red flags coming out than you can see at the United Nations....
What was disconcerting was when he was still pimping Richardson long after his career went in the dumpster- that would be to anyone who was being 1\2 objective.
He was right about Carr and Honey Badger, that's about it. Tyrann had more red flags coming out than you can see at the United Nations....
What was disconcerting was when he was still pimping Richardson long after his career went in the dumpster- that would be to anyone who was being 1\2 objective.
The old blind squirrel analogy at play there? As far as the Hogan/Captain Klink suggestion....well, that is just a little bit of fun at his expense. I may have to just do it on my own....from now on, for me anyway, Hogan is Captain Klink.
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I beseech the Mods to do something along the lines doing an autocorrect every time the name "Hogan" is mentioned by lover boy (PoG) here. Like you used to do with Retard. Only thing is...what would be a good name to change it to?
Well...it could be "Lover Boy". Or it could be Sargent Schultz or Captain Klink...or something. I don't know...take suggestions like you did when you came up with Retard.
I don't know that anybody on this board has been longer winded or more oppressively pompous than you were about Mitch Trubisky leading up to the draft. As for pog he's calling for the second string quarterback to get into the games. And so far that second string quarterback has look better than the starter.
A starter not even worthy of a first-round pick, a starter who issn't very accurate now nor was he in college. A starter who is struggling to read defenses and get rid of the ball. A starter who, so far, only has size and arm strength on his resume.
Personally I'm not calling for him to get yanked but I hope he gets better. If he doesn't we should all hope that Hogan does rather than constantly bellyaching about him.
WSS
I don't know that anybody on this board has been longer winded or more oppressively pompous than you were about Mitch Trubisky leading up to the draft. As for pog he's calling for the second string quarterback to get into the games. And so far that second string quarterback has look better than the starter.
Actually, you do know that others have been more oppressively pompous about players. The big difference is that I was right. MT was taken with the #2 overall pick...higher than I or most others expected him to go. And Hogan was a UDFA....who was cut by the team that originally signed him (Chiefs?)
A starter not even worthy of a first-round pick, a starter who issn't very accurate now nor was he in college. A starter who is struggling to read defenses and get rid of the ball. A starter who, so far, only has size and arm strength on his resume.
Personally I'm not calling for him to get yanked but I hope he gets better. If he doesn't we should all hope that Hogan does rather than constantly bellyaching about him.
I don't know if I would say Hogan has looked better. I think that is debatable.
WSS
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And Hogan is on his 3rd year as a pro and 2nd year here so I would expect him to initially be a little better, but that does not make him our future. If at the end of the season we see no improvement with the Kaiser, then ok, maybe your are right about him. Right now it's way too early to make that judgement.
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And Hogan is on his 3rd year as a pro and 2nd year here so I would expect him to initially be a little better, but that does not make him our future. If at the end of the season we see no improvement with the Kaiser, then ok, maybe your are right about him. Right now it's way too early to make that judgement.
And Hogan is on his 3rd year as a pro and 2nd year here so I would expect him to initially be a little better, but that does not make him our future. If at the end of the season we see no improvement with the Kaiser, then ok, maybe your are right about him. Right now it's way too early to make that judgement.
Actually, no I don't think that is right. This is only Hogan's second year, no? He and Kessler came out the same year.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HogaKe00.htm
I am not against Hogan....I just think that PoG slavering over him as if he were to become some kind of savior is absurd.
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And Hogan is on his 3rd year as a pro and 2nd year here so I would expect him to initially be a little better, but that does not make him our future. If at the end of the season we see no improvement with the Kaiser, then ok, maybe your are right about him. Right now it's way too early to make that judgement.
Actually, no I don't think that is right. This is only Hogan's second year, no? He and Kessler came out the same year.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HogaKe00.htm
I am not against Hogan....I just think that PoG slavering over him as if he were to become some kind of savior is absurd.
Actually, no I don't think that is right. This is only Hogan's second year, no? He and Kessler came out the same year.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HogaKe00.htm
I am not against Hogan....I just think that PoG slavering over him as if he were to become some kind of savior is absurd.
You are correct. My bad. For some reason I thought he was with KC a full year before we got him. Apparently not. He was released by them Sept. the same year he was drafted.
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Start Kizer, he's the youngest QB in the league and he's going to make mistakes because he's inexperienced -> trying to do too much. Either he learns some patience and develops or he doesn't. At any rate he is the most talented QB on the roster, and it isn't even close.
Fair or not, the simple fact is that Hogan wasnt able to earn a roster spot for the team that drafted him, and won't receive the same opportunities as a 2nd round pick. There are reasons he didn't get any preseason action against guys who are currently on an NFL roster. Most likely, this coaching staff has come to the conclusion that Kevin is a viable back up, but not the future. They have far more raw data on the matter than I do, so I'll take their word for it as KH has done nothing to prove them wrong.
I dont agree with playing an inferior QB just so the young guy can sit and learn. All of our QBs are young, might as well let the kid with the most upside get the on field experience. Deshone has made plenty of mistakes, but has still shown composure and confidence that is impressive for a player his age.
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Start Kizer, he's the youngest QB in the league and he's going to make mistakes because he's inexperienced -> trying to do too much. Either he learns some patience and develops or he doesn't. At any rate he is the most talented QB on the roster, and it isn't even close.
Fair or not, the simple fact is that Hogan wasnt able to earn a roster spot for the team that drafted him, and won't receive the same opportunities as a 2nd round pick. There are reasons he didn't get any preseason action against guys who are currently on an NFL roster. Most likely, this coaching staff has come to the conclusion that Kevin is a viable back up, but not the future. They have far more raw data on the matter than I do, so I'll take their word for it as KH has done nothing to prove them wrong.
I dont agree with playing an inferior QB just so the young guy can sit and learn. All of our QBs are young, might as well let the kid with the most upside get the on field experience. Deshone has made plenty of mistakes, but has still shown composure and confidence that is impressive for a player his age.
Fair or not, the simple fact is that Hogan wasnt able to earn a roster spot for the team that drafted him,
I think that we forget that he was in fact drafted in the 5th round by the Chiefs and didn't survive roster cuts.
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Fair or not, the simple fact is that Hogan wasnt able to earn a roster spot for the team that drafted him,
I think that we forget that he was in fact drafted in the 5th round by the Chiefs and didn't survive roster cuts.
I think that we forget that he was in fact drafted in the 5th round by the Chiefs and didn't survive roster cuts.
Of course, that can happen. I mean, Johnny Unitas was cut by the Steelers who drafted him. There are other examples. Not that I am on his bandwagon at all....I am just saying.
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Fair or not, the simple fact is that Hogan wasnt able to earn a roster spot for the team that drafted him,
I think that we forget that he was in fact drafted in the 5th round by the Chiefs and didn't survive roster cuts.
I think that we forget that he was in fact drafted in the 5th round by the Chiefs and didn't survive roster cuts.
Yup... a roster overseen by a HC that has a strong QB resume to boot.
I dont agree with playing an inferior QB just so the young guy can sit and learn
Who would? The thing is no one thought Kizer was going to be the superior QB at season's start. That hill he had to climb just managing a huddle and getting play calls, and working under Center (where he needs to spend more time IMO) turned out to be a mole hill. That was the stuff he could, and had to, learn by sitting and studying his ass off. Well... he sat through about half the preseason, learned and graduated from QB College.
Now it's Grad school level stuff. It's school of hard knocks time... and he's got the lumps to prove it. What he lacks... and I will try to make this the last time I beat this drum... is a full-time professor.
Hue! Sit with the kid for a period after each series! Review his latest test score with him and go over material for the next exam that is coming right up! Doing so will be the best use of the time you have while the D is on the field.
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I think that we forget that he was in fact drafted in the 5th round by the Chiefs and didn't survive roster cuts.
Yup... a roster overseen by a HC that has a strong QB resume to boot.
I dont agree with playing an inferior QB just so the young guy can sit and learn
Who would? The thing is no one thought Kizer was going to be the superior QB at season's start. That hill he had to climb just managing a huddle and getting play calls, and working under Center (where he needs to spend more time IMO) turned out to be a mole hill. That was the stuff he could, and had to, learn by sitting and studying his ass off. Well... he sat through about half the preseason, learned and graduated from QB College.
Now it's Grad school level stuff. It's school of hard knocks time... and he's got the lumps to prove it. What he lacks... and I will try to make this the last time I beat this drum... is a full-time professor.
Hue! Sit with the kid for a period after each series! Review his latest test score with him and go over material for the next exam that is coming right up! Doing so will be the best use of the time you have while the D is on the field.
Hue! Sit with the kid for a period after each series! Review his latest test score with him and go over material for the next exam that is coming right up! Doing so will be the best use of the time you have while the D is on the field.
I don't know how many times you & I have said this. And it's not like we've got some IFFY DC. Williams is perfectly capable of handling things while Hue works with the QB and or the offense.
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Who's got the challenge flag while Mcvie sits on the ice cooler🥷..Though-out the Colts game Hue has a large notebook that looks like full of still photos that may have Kizer's name written all over it..worth another look?
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