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  • So they waive Jordan Leslie to make room for Treggs, but it said they put him on injury designation.  I guess I don't understand that? Does that mean he hits waivers and if nobody claims him he goes on IR on the Browns roster? They aren't allowed to cut/waive an injured player right?

    @hx214 said:

    So they waive Jordan Leslie to make room for Treggs, but it said they put him on injury designation.  I guess I don't understand that? Does that mean he hits waivers and if nobody claims him he goes on IR on the Browns roster? They aren't allowed to cut/waive an injured player right?

    Somewhat complicated but here's a decent write-up.

    http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2017/08/what_does_it_mean_when_an_nfl_player_is_waivedinju_1.html

  • @tour2ma said:

    Allen is smoking Darnold so far and is running neck and neck with Mayfield for top dog.

    Couple interesting risers in UWa's Browning and WshSt's Luke Falk, who came into the season fairly highly ranked.

    My Darkhorse Candidate 1, Ole Miss' Shea Patterson, has stumbled the past two weeks vs. increased competition levels... like BAMA last week.

    Get to see my new, DC2, UVa's Kurt Benkert, this week coming off a bye and eye-balling my top spot.

    Patterson is a sophomore just fyi. 

    Yes... important designation difference between "waived/injured" and "waived with injury settlement". As I understand it the former is a route to the waiving team's IR while the latter is a paid, permanent separation with FA status the destination if waivers are cleared.

    @wargograw said:

    Patterson is a sophomore just fyi. 

    Got it... just caught my eye early. I get to watch some darkhorses for two and even three years. Dak was the last one. Thought I saw him coming as a Sophomore... saw him grow as  Junior... saw him blossom as a Senior. Doesn't happen often.

    Did not mention my other Mississippian candidate, State's Fitzgerald... fading badly since competition level rose after LSU game, a team we know now isn't very good.

  • McShay was on NFL Live yesterday. Made similar comments about Allen's year and his supporting cast to those in the article posted above. Gave a bit of same nod to Darnold, but called last week's loss at Washington State concerning. Of Rosen he simply said, "He's been the most consistent of the top QBs in the class."

    In a side note... Todd also called PSU's Barkley the best college RB since Adrian Petersen and "a freak" to be able to move the way he does at 230#. Right now Todd sees him as a top three pick.

  • McShay was on NFL Live yesterday. Made similar comments about Allen's year and his supporting cast to those in the article posted above. Gave a bit of same nod to Darnold, but called last week's loss at Washington State concerning. Of Rosen he simply said, "He's been the most consistent of the top QBs in the class."

    In a side note... Todd also called PSU's Barkley the best college RB since Adrian Petersen and "a freak" to be able to move the way he does at 230#. Right now Todd sees him as a top three pick.

    @tour2ma said:

    In a side note... Todd also called PSU's Barkley the best college RB since Adrian Petersen and "a freak" to be able to move the way he does at 230#. Right now Todd sees him as a top three pick.

    LOL! Rest my case your honor!😆

  • McShay was on NFL Live yesterday. Made similar comments about Allen's year and his supporting cast to those in the article posted above. Gave a bit of same nod to Darnold, but called last week's loss at Washington State concerning. Of Rosen he simply said, "He's been the most consistent of the top QBs in the class."

    In a side note... Todd also called PSU's Barkley the best college RB since Adrian Petersen and "a freak" to be able to move the way he does at 230#. Right now Todd sees him as a top three pick.

    @tour2ma said:

    McShay was on NFL Live yesterday. Made similar comments about Allen's year and his supporting cast to those in the article posted above. Gave a bit of same nod to Darnold, but called last week's loss at Washington State concerning. Of Rosen he simply said, "He's been the most consistent of the top QBs in the class."

    Rosen really has.

    I'm just troubled by the comparison to Manziel personality-wise that has been bandied about. I can't remember who originally wrote it, but it sent shivers down my spine. 😆

  • @tour2ma said:

    McShay was on NFL Live yesterday. Made similar comments about Allen's year and his supporting cast to those in the article posted above. Gave a bit of same nod to Darnold, but called last week's loss at Washington State concerning. Of Rosen he simply said, "He's been the most consistent of the top QBs in the class."

    Rosen really has.

    I'm just troubled by the comparison to Manziel personality-wise that has been bandied about. I can't remember who originally wrote it, but it sent shivers down my spine. 😆

    @dutch-oven said:

    Rosen really has.

    I'm just troubled by the comparison to Manziel personality-wise that has been bandied about. I can't remember who originally wrote it, but it sent shivers down my spine. 😆

    Haven't seen that, but, yes, that would... depending on how far it extends.

    It's one thing if a prospect participates in a certain amount of "partying"... I mean these are college kids. It's another if his game prep is less than well dedicated.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Rosen really has.

    I'm just troubled by the comparison to Manziel personality-wise that has been bandied about. I can't remember who originally wrote it, but it sent shivers down my spine. 😆

    Haven't seen that, but, yes, that would... depending on how far it extends.

    It's one thing if a prospect participates in a certain amount of "partying"... I mean these are college kids. It's another if his game prep is less than well dedicated.

    @tour2ma said:

    Haven't seen that, but, yes, that would... depending on how far it extends.

    It's one thing if a prospect participates in a certain amount of "partying"... I mean these are college kids. It's another if his game prep is less than well dedicated.

    Here's a little something on Rosen...

    http://thelab.bleacherreport.com/a-beautiful-brash-mind/

    Mike

  • @tour2ma said:

    Haven't seen that, but, yes, that would... depending on how far it extends.

    It's one thing if a prospect participates in a certain amount of "partying"... I mean these are college kids. It's another if his game prep is less than well dedicated.

    Here's a little something on Rosen...

    http://thelab.bleacherreport.com/a-beautiful-brash-mind/

    Mike

    @canton-mike said:

    Here's a little something on Rosen...

    http://thelab.bleacherreport.com/a-beautiful-brash-mind/

    Mike

    Hope he does not make the same mistake of coming out early like JM. Maturity will be an issue and he's not ready yet. One more for the CFL castoff pile (CFL not taking JM).

  • @tour2ma said:

    Haven't seen that, but, yes, that would... depending on how far it extends.

    It's one thing if a prospect participates in a certain amount of "partying"... I mean these are college kids. It's another if his game prep is less than well dedicated.

    Here's a little something on Rosen...

    http://thelab.bleacherreport.com/a-beautiful-brash-mind/

    Mike

    What did you see that gives even a hint of immaturity, Ag?

    @canton-mike said:

    Here's a little something on Rosen... http://thelab.bleacherreport.com/a-beautiful-brash-mind/

    Holy schnikees... Definitely not #1 over material... I wouldn't go higher than #2 overall... unless I had to...

    I seriously loved that article and the refreshing openness Rosen brings. Especially loved this bit from the article...

    The same teenager who is allowed to start each quarterbacks meeting at UCLA with a two-minute "Josh period," where quarterbacks coach Marques Tuiasosopo sets aside time for Rosen to discuss anything on his mind before the group returns to strictly football and steers clear of "Josh tangents."

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Rosen really has.

    I'm just troubled by the comparison to Manziel personality-wise that has been bandied about. I can't remember who originally wrote it, but it sent shivers down my spine. 😆

    Haven't seen that, but, yes, that would... depending on how far it extends.

    It's one thing if a prospect participates in a certain amount of "partying"... I mean these are college kids. It's another if his game prep is less than well dedicated.

    @tour2ma said:

    Haven't seen that, but, yes, that would... depending on how far it extends.

    It's one thing if a prospect participates in a certain amount of "partying"... I mean these are college kids. It's another if his game prep is less than well dedicated.

    Yes, it is really hard to tell if a guy who "parties" can have off field events disrupt things in his football career.  I mean, it didn't hurt this guy:

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  • @dutch-oven said:

    Rosen really has.

    I'm just troubled by the comparison to Manziel personality-wise that has been bandied about. I can't remember who originally wrote it, but it sent shivers down my spine. 😆

    Haven't seen that, but, yes, that would... depending on how far it extends.

    It's one thing if a prospect participates in a certain amount of "partying"... I mean these are college kids. It's another if his game prep is less than well dedicated.

    @tour2ma said:

    Haven't seen that, but, yes, that would... depending on how far it extends.

    It's one thing if a prospect participates in a certain amount of "partying"... I mean these are college kids. It's another if his game prep is less than well dedicated.

    Rosen's an idiot. He doesn't even celebrate touchdowns with his teammates (or at least didn't in the A&M game). I was at the Rose Bowl and all the UCLA fans around me kept pointing out what a terrible teammate he was. 

  • @tour2ma said:

    Haven't seen that, but, yes, that would... depending on how far it extends.

    It's one thing if a prospect participates in a certain amount of "partying"... I mean these are college kids. It's another if his game prep is less than well dedicated.

    Rosen's an idiot. He doesn't even celebrate touchdowns with his teammates (or at least didn't in the A&M game). I was at the Rose Bowl and all the UCLA fans around me kept pointing out what a terrible teammate he was. 

    @wargograw said:

    Rosen's an idiot. He doesn't even celebrate touchdowns with his teammates (or at least didn't in the A&M game). I was at the Rose Bowl and all the UCLA fans around me kept pointing out what a terrible teammate he was. 

    I may still want to take a chance on him.

  • @wargograw said:

    Rosen's an idiot. He doesn't even celebrate touchdowns with his teammates (or at least didn't in the A&M game). I was at the Rose Bowl and all the UCLA fans around me kept pointing out what a terrible teammate he was. 

    I may still want to take a chance on him.

    @the-gipper said:

    I may still want to take a chance on him.

    Maybe in 2019 if they convince him he needs another year to mature. We don't need another JM who obviously should have stayed two more years in college.

  • Rosen is an arrogant partier who's teammates get frustrated with him, but the kid can ball in college.

    I think He's Manziel 2.0. He's also like the QB from that movie about the browns, "Draft Day".

    He isn't exactly mature. That doesn't mean he'll be a bust, but I DONT WANT HIM.

    That's like asking me if i'd rather have jimmy garrapolo or johnny manziel. I wanted Jimmy G back then, and would still take him over Rosen.

  • @the-gipper said:

    I may still want to take a chance on him.

    Maybe in 2019 if they convince him he needs another year to mature. We don't need another JM who obviously should have stayed two more years in college.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Maybe in 2019 if they convince him he needs another year to mature. We don't need another JM who obviously should have stayed two more years in college.

    He's not the only Browns QB who came out too early....

  • I see nothing of Johnny in Rosen... but I'm still looking.

  • Well Johnny's college teammates liked him by and large, so I guess I don't blame you.

  • lol... winning makes friends, but also does...

    • the bit in the aricle where Rosen as an incoming Frosh asked if he could move his locker from the QB section to the OL section.
    • that he spent time in HS raising funds so his entire team could make the trip to Hawaii to play a game.
  • lol... winning makes friends, but also does...

    • the bit in the aricle where Rosen as an incoming Frosh asked if he could move his locker from the QB section to the OL section.
    • that he spent time in HS raising funds so his entire team could make the trip to Hawaii to play a game.

    @tour2ma said:

    lol... winning makes friends, but also does...

    • the bit in the aricle where Rosen as an incoming Frosh asked if he could move his locker from the QB section to the OL section.
    • that he spent time in HS raising funds so his entire team could make the trip to Hawaii to play a game.

    His handmade headband he wore while golfing at a certain individual's golf course makes me think I might have been premature on my assessment of the young man. 😆

  • You know there was a whole site called "the Johnny we know" dedicated to all the stories of philanthropy and charity Johnny Manziel had done? If you had been applying to him the standards you have to Rosen, you'd have been a huge fan of his character. 

    Rosen's a clown. At BEST (and it almost certainly will not be that good) he is a Phillip Rivers clone attitude-wise.