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  • Im sure the vastly uninformed will want williams gone at the end of the year too. Omg our front 4 isnt generating enough pressure get rid of gregg!!! Well yeah he's got a first round pick at 75% perhaps less, and 3 well below avg DE's that might be 3rd stringers on other not so good teams. 

    There is a consistent talent gap on this team that is vexing. We used to think it was the cosches but when u break film down u can see it aint the scheme. These guys just hardly ever "beat their man". You cant scheme primary DL into the Qb. At some point someone has to beat a tackle around the edge or blow up an interior gap etc, etc

  • The word paucity doesn't make you sound nearly as smart as you think it does, hoss.

    Yes, 1-20 is historically bad. BUT, OUR TEAM IS HISTORICALLY UNTALENTED.

  • The word paucity doesn't make you sound nearly as smart as you think it does, hoss.

    Yes, 1-20 is historically bad. BUT, OUR TEAM IS HISTORICALLY UNTALENTED.

    @wargograw said:

    BUT, OUR TEAM IS HISTORICALLY UNTALENTED.

    ^^^^

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  • @wargograw said:

    The stupidity of this fanbase is astounding. Yeah let's scrap all the work we've done to conform our team to Hue and Williams' system just so, as Marc1971, we can watch some other bum crying at the podium trying to explain away a loss in two years. How do you guys actually enjoy that process? Is it so hard to grow some nuts and wait it out for a few years? 

    When it's obvious we have talent to win (and it's not) and Hue is AT THAT TIME not winning (think Rams last year with Fisher, Raiders in 2015, etc.), THEN we can talk about firing him. 

    Also you've listed no one that is a viable candidate who we have any reason to believe is any better than Hue. Saying "well we can certainly find someone" isn't going to cut it. 

    Grow a pair.

    you dont seem to get it.  Even with a paucity of talent(and we do have a paucity of talent), you CAN STILL EVALUATE the head coach.  If he were 6-15, I could maybe see your point.  After all, plenty of teams with shitty players go 4-12 or whatever.  But when you are 1-20, thats historically bad.  

    and there is nothign unique to hue's system that matches up with these players.  Another coach can implement his system with them just as easily.

    Your fallacy is in assuming hue has made some progress.  He hasn't.  So there is nothing lost.  What we do know is that at 1-20 he hasn't been a positive difference maker.

    @tacosman said:

    Even with a paucity of talent

    Ill admit i had to look it up

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  • A proper thesaurian substitute to describe this team however, well played

  • The word paucity doesn't make you sound nearly as smart as you think it does, hoss.

    Yes, 1-20 is historically bad. BUT, OUR TEAM IS HISTORICALLY UNTALENTED.

    @wargograw said:

    The word paucity doesn't make you sound nearly as smart as you think it does, hoss.

    Yes, 1-20 is historically bad. BUT, OUR TEAM IS HISTORICALLY UNTALENTED.

    last year it wasnt any worse than a few other teams in terms of talent.  this year most of the experts dont/didnt think it was any worse than the other 3-4 worst teams.  

    The point is that if you lose a historic rate of games for two straight years, we *know* you arent a positive difference maker.  So no harm in firing him.  

    Nobody is blaming hue for us sucking.  We get that we dont have the players.  But 1-20 is still 1-20.  You don't lose games at that rate in the nfl for two seasons and get a third.  Thats not a browns policy...thats just an every team in the nfl policy.  

  • This roster is a lot better than it was

  • @tacosman said:

    we are stuck with him for the year.....but we certainly can find plenty of other people who want the job and are qualified candidates at the end of the year.

    Also, changing the head coach doesn't mean 'starting over'.  It doesn't mean we scratch this rebuild and start a new one.  We can still develop the mostly crappy players we draftd over the last couple of years.  Just with a hc who hasnt proven himself to lose 90% of his nfl games.

    The stupidity of this fanbase is astounding. Yeah let's scrap all the work we've done to conform our team to Hue and Williams' system just so, as Marc1971, we can watch some other bum crying at the podium trying to explain away a loss in two years. How do you guys actually enjoy that process? Is it so hard to grow some nuts and wait it out for a few years? 

    When it's obvious we have talent to win (and it's not) and Hue is AT THAT TIME not winning (think Rams last year with Fisher, Raiders in 2015, etc.), THEN we can talk about firing him. 

    Also you've listed no one that is a viable candidate who we have any reason to believe is any better than Hue. Saying "well we can certainly find someone" isn't going to cut it. 

    Grow a pair.

    @wargograw said:

    The stupidity of this fanbase is astounding. Yeah let's scrap all the work we've done to conform our team to Hue and Williams' system just so, as Marc1971, we can watch some other bum crying at the podium trying to explain away a loss in two years. How do you guys actually enjoy that process? Is it so hard to grow some nuts and wait it out for a few years? 

    When it's obvious we have talent to win (and it's not) and Hue is AT THAT TIME not winning (think Rams last year with Fisher, Raiders in 2015, etc.), THEN we can talk about firing him. 

    Also you've listed no one that is a viable candidate who we have any reason to believe is any better than Hue. Saying "well we can certainly find someone" isn't going to cut it. 

    Grow a pair.

    Well the stupidity with the fan base obviously starts  ^here^

    We just watched  QB that we got rid of win his 3rd straight game with a team about the same amount of talent on offense as we do. Umm Fisher an overrated coach still won games with the Rams. Viable candidates when you are 1 and 20 and  continually make moronic decisions  everyone is viable.

  • This roster is a lot better than it was

    @mld-woody said:

    This roster is a lot better than it was

    How is it better?

  • This roster is a lot better than it was

    @mld-woody said:

    This roster is a lot better than it was

    I'm guessing our 0-5 record would argue with you. 

  • If you don't have a viable alternative then hush with the Hue whining. We're stuck with him.

    @wargograw said:

    If you don't have a viable alternative then hush with the Hue whining. We're stuck with him.

    F u c k   Y o u   A s s h o l e.

  • The word paucity doesn't make you sound nearly as smart as you think it does, hoss.

    Yes, 1-20 is historically bad. BUT, OUR TEAM IS HISTORICALLY UNTALENTED.

    @wargograw said:

    Yes, 1-20 is historically bad. BUT, OUR TEAM IS HISTORICALLY UNTALENTED.

    which is the point Ive been trying to make...its historically bad and historically untalented, why??????

    Because Shashi stripped it bare...and with 3 drafts equivenlent of high picks, still hasnt hit on one single difference maker....let alone the 15 he actually needs....

  • why be just bad(cause that wasnt working).....so lets be HISTORICALLY bad as our new approach to winning....its' different

  • @wargograw said:

    Yes, 1-20 is historically bad. BUT, OUR TEAM IS HISTORICALLY UNTALENTED.

    which is the point Ive been trying to make...its historically bad and historically untalented, why??????

    Because Shashi stripped it bare...and with 3 drafts equivenlent of high picks, still hasnt hit on one single difference maker....let alone the 15 he actually needs....

    @mudfly said:

    which is the point Ive been trying to make...its historically bad and historically untalented, why??????

    Because Shashi stripped it bare...and with 3 drafts equivenlent of high picks, still hasnt hit on one single difference maker....let alone the 15 he actually needs....

    Gotta trust the 18yr process I guess? 

  • @mudfly said:

    which is the point Ive been trying to make...its historically bad and historically untalented, why??????

    Because Shashi stripped it bare...and with 3 drafts equivenlent of high picks, still hasnt hit on one single difference maker....let alone the 15 he actually needs....

    Gotta trust the 18yr process I guess? 

    @d-bone said:

    Gotta trust the 18yr process I guess? 

    and we're supposed to shut up and wait...hahahaha.....pathetic.....this whole organization should be ASHAMED....I know I am....

  • same circus different clowns

  • The word paucity doesn't make you sound nearly as smart as you think it does, hoss.

    Yes, 1-20 is historically bad. BUT, OUR TEAM IS HISTORICALLY UNTALENTED.

    @wargograw said:

    The word paucity doesn't make you sound nearly as smart as you think it does, hoss.

    Yes, 1-20 is historically bad. BUT, OUR TEAM IS HISTORICALLY UNTALENTED.

    Its fine war has trouble admitting he is wrong and has been wrong about hue. Lol you'll get it right eventually

  • The word paucity doesn't make you sound nearly as smart as you think it does, hoss.

    Yes, 1-20 is historically bad. BUT, OUR TEAM IS HISTORICALLY UNTALENTED.

    @wargograw said:

    The word paucity doesn't make you sound nearly as smart as you think it does, hoss.

    Yes, 1-20 is historically bad. BUT, OUR TEAM IS HISTORICALLY UNTALENTED.

    If we go 1-6 in the next seven games, we're gonna tie the 1976-77 Bucs (who started 2-26 in their first two NFL seasons  ever)..

  • @wargograw said:

    The word paucity doesn't make you sound nearly as smart as you think it does, hoss.

    Yes, 1-20 is historically bad. BUT, OUR TEAM IS HISTORICALLY UNTALENTED.

    If we go 1-6 in the next seven games, we're gonna tie the 1976-77 Bucs (who started 2-26 in their first two NFL seasons  ever)..

    @marc1971 said:

    If we go 1-6 in the next seven games, we're gonna tie the 1976-77 Bucs (who started 2-26 in their first two NFL seasons  ever)..

    Book it Dano!...we're already worse than every other expansion team...ever....(what a great plan)

  • @wargograw said:

    The word paucity doesn't make you sound nearly as smart as you think it does, hoss.

    Yes, 1-20 is historically bad. BUT, OUR TEAM IS HISTORICALLY UNTALENTED.

    If we go 1-6 in the next seven games, we're gonna tie the 1976-77 Bucs (who started 2-26 in their first two NFL seasons  ever)..

    @marc1971 said:

    If we go 1-5 in the next six games, we're gonna tie the 1976-77 Bucs (who started 2-26 in their first two NFL seasons  ever)..

    Gotta trust the 18yr process 😆   sorry, couldn't get that out without laughing.