Which school?
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I'll throw out Nebraska's duos worthy of consideration, not necessarily expecting any to be the best at their positions.
RB: Roger Craig and Ahman Green
WR: Irving Fryar and Guy Chamberlin
T: Link Lyman and Bob Brown
G: Will Shields and Dean Steinkuhler
Charley Brock and Mick Tingelhoff
DE: Neil Smith and Grant Wistrom
DT: Ndamukong Suh and John Dutton
LB: Broderick Thomas and Lavonte David
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And right now I'll put Syracuse: RB Jim Brown and Larry Csonka up against anyone.
And right now I'll put Syracuse: RB Jim Brown and Larry Csonka up against anyone.
... and you overlooked Ernie Davis, who broke all JB's record at Syracuse, but never had a chance to prove out at the pro level... plus...
Floyd Little... who broke all of Ernie Davis' records and went on to a HoF career in Denver.
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My point was the school who has produced the 2 or more best players by position. Jim Brown being great, but the next dont hold up to others schools top 2.
I'll start it, and feel free to disagree.
QB: Standford: John Elway and Andrew Luck
WTF you do realize Little and Csonka are both in the Pro Football Hall of Fame along with Brown?
WTF you do realize Little and Csonka are both in the Pro Football Hall of Fame along with Brown?
Not saying they werent great, my point was that other schools could have a better 2, not weighing Jim Brown a lot more. OJ and Allen would be a better 2 to me.
Or the triplets of Earl Campbell, Eddie George, and Ezekiel Elliott
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WTF you do realize Little and Csonka are both in the Pro Football Hall of Fame along with Brown?
Not saying they werent great, my point was that other schools could have a better 2, not weighing Jim Brown a lot more. OJ and Allen would be a better 2 to me.
Or the triplets of Earl Campbell, Eddie George, and Ezekiel Elliott
Not saying they werent great, my point was that other schools could have a better 2, not weighing Jim Brown a lot more. OJ and Allen would be a better 2 to me.
Or the triplets of Earl Campbell, Eddie George, and Ezekiel Elliott
Earl went to Texas...
George and Elliot were Buckeyes... but you can add Howard "Hopalong" Cassidy...
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Has to be a ton of Iowa OL to list... may not be HoF'ers, but damned if I can think of them...
Fortunately there's google...
Hawkeyes in NFL: 70 percent are linemen
ACTIVE ROSTER
- Baltimore: G Marshal Yanda (10th)
- Denver: C James Ferentz (2nd)
- Detroit: G Riley Reiff (5th)
- Green Bay: OT Bryan Bulaga (7th)
- Indianapolis: C Austin Blythe (1st)
- Los Angeles: OT Andrew Donnal (2nd)
- Philadelphia: OL Matt Tobin (4th)
- Washington: OL Brandon Scherff (2nd)
PRACTICE SQUAD
- N.Y. Giants: OL Adam Gettis
EDIT: almost forgot that we had one... OG Eric Steinbach
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And right now I'll put Syracuse: RB Jim Brown and Larry Csonka up against anyone.
... and you overlooked Ernie Davis, who broke all JB's record at Syracuse, but never had a chance to prove out at the pro level... plus...
Floyd Little... who broke all of Ernie Davis' records and went on to a HoF career in Denver.
... and you overlooked Ernie Davis, who broke all JB's record at Syracuse, but never had a chance to prove out at the pro level... plus...
Floyd Little... who broke all of Ernie Davis' records and went on to a HoF career in Denver.
I started by just naming the best two RBs from Syracuse, I would have included Little too. Davis never played in the NFL, so he wouldn't have made the list.
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Texas A&M D Linemen Ray Childress, Michael Bennett, Jacob Greene, Sam Adams, Ty Warren
I have a feeling U of Miami can beat that, let's see...
I have a feeling U of Miami can beat that, let's see...
As a group The U was a pretty prolific group:
- The Hurricanes once had a streak of 149 consecutive regular season weeks where a former Hurricane scored a touchdown in an NFL game; the streak started in Week 15 of the 2002 NFL regular season and ended in Week 11 of the 2011 season. During the streak, 33 different former Hurricanes scored touchdowns and a total of 661 touchdowns were scored.
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I have a feeling U of Miami can beat that, let's see...
As a group The U was a pretty prolific group:
- The Hurricanes once had a streak of 149 consecutive regular season weeks where a former Hurricane scored a touchdown in an NFL game; the streak started in Week 15 of the 2002 NFL regular season and ended in Week 11 of the 2011 season. During the streak, 33 different former Hurricanes scored touchdowns and a total of 661 touchdowns were scored.
As a group The U was a pretty prolific group:
- The Hurricanes once had a streak of 149 consecutive regular season weeks where a former Hurricane scored a touchdown in an NFL game; the streak started in Week 15 of the 2002 NFL regular season and ended in Week 11 of the 2011 season. During the streak, 33 different former Hurricanes scored touchdowns and a total of 661 touchdowns were scored.
Holy crap!
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Not saying they werent great, my point was that other schools could have a better 2, not weighing Jim Brown a lot more. OJ and Allen would be a better 2 to me.
Or the triplets of Earl Campbell, Eddie George, and Ezekiel Elliott
Earl went to Texas...
George and Elliot were Buckeyes... but you can add Howard "Hopalong" Cassidy...
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Definitive answer on RBs
It is close between Syracuse and USC. These are the only 2 schools to produce 2 HOF RBs
Syracuse had Jim Brown, Larry Csonka, and Floyd Little....all HOF RBs
USC had OJ Simpson, Marcus Allen, and Frank Gifford.
The edge goes to Syracuse....because they have Jim Brown.
Other schools to produce 2 HOF RBs...or potential HOF RBs..that could contend in the "who produced the best RB category"
Notre Dame: Paul Hornung and Jerome Bettis
Georgia: Terrell Davis and Charley Trippi
SMU: Eric Dickerson and Doak Walker
Pitt: Tony Dorsett and Curtis Martin
Penn St.: Franco Harris and Lenny Moore
Kansas: John Riggins and Gale Sayers
Oklahoma St. : Barry Sanders and Thurman Thomas
Miami: Edgerrin James and Frank Gore (both potential HOF)
In my opinion the duo of Sanders and Thomas could put OK St. in second place...if you just go by the best two.
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Definitive answer on QB. The fact is, there may be no definitive answer. Two schools have produce three HOF QBs...or certain HOF QBs:
Alabama: Namath, Bart Starr, Ken Stabler
Purdue: Len Dawson, Bob Griese, Drew Brees
Other schools to produce 2 HOF or certain HOF QBs:
UCLA: Aikman and Bob Waterfield
Oregon: Dan Fouts and Norm Van Brocklin
Duke: Sonny Jurgenson and Ace Parker
Michigan: Benny Friedman and Tom Brady
If you just go by who were the best two....you might have to consider Michigan. No one here can doubt the credentials of Brady...but most may not know the quality of Friedman. He was simply the best QB of his era....which was mid 20s to mid 30s.
Someone mentioned Stanford and Elway and Luck.....well...sorry....not so fast my friend. Luck has a lot to go before he joins the elite QBs in history class. This is, I assume a question of who were the actual best QBs based on totality of NFL careers.....not on potential. Luck still has a lot of unfulfilled potential...and the jury is out.
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Definitive answer on WRs:
There are really only 4 contenders who have produced as many as 2 HOF actual or potential WRs:
Ohio State: Cris Carter, Paul Warfield, Dante Lavelli
Miami, Fla: Michael Irvin, (Reggie Wayne) (Andre Johnson)
Syracuse: Marvin Harrison, Art Monk
Florida State: Fred Biletnikoff (Anquon Boldin)
( ) means not in but probable HOF
Very tough choice. The homer in me wants to pick OSU...and it would be a good pick. So, sure, why not, go with the home choice. But the others are perfectly legitimately arguable (If Syracuse were chosen, it would have the top spot in two of these 3 categories!!)
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Nice to have our own Judge Roy Bean here for the definitive answers.
Well I guess he's the modern day Ohio version the original was an eccentric U.S. saloon-keeper and Justice of the Peace in Val Verde County, Texas, who called himself "The Law West of the Pecos". I guess he's "The Law East of the Cuyahoga", or is it West? (and we kid because we care)
And you almost could have a time cutoff because as time goes on the number of pro teams got larger along with the explosion in number of players. For example the best before/after 1980? The older ones are already in the HOF if they're getting in. Still a good topic.
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Definitive answer on Tight Ends. Again, there is none. NO school has produced more than 1 HOF or likely HOF caliber TE. The ones that have:
Notre Dame: Casper; Pitt: Ditka; Syracuse: Mackey, Minnesota: Charlie Sanders, Alabama: Ozzie;, South Carolina: Shannon Sharpe; NW Louisiana: Jackie Smith; Missouri, Kellen Winslow; Cal: Tony Gonzales?;, Tennesse: Jason Witten?; Kent State: Antonio Gates?
? means not in HOF...but probable or potential.
Miami Fla. has produced two pretty good ones: Greg Olsen and Jeremy Shockey.
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UNC pass rushers Lawrence Taylor & Julius Peppers
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Definitive answers on Offensive Center. Again, there really is none. No school has produced more than one HOF center.
However....Gil Brandt did his list of top 16 centers of all time, and there is one school on there that has two players:
Wisconsin: both Mike Webster and Travis Frederick (current Cowboys center.....though...could Brandt..ex Cowboys GM, be a little biased? He also has Alex Mack on the top 16 ever.
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Tennessee DEs Reggie White and Doug Atkins (first player ever inducted in college and pro HOf)
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Definitive Answer on Middle Linebacker:
Whoever said above that it is Illinois with finger Butkus and Ray Nitschke is absolutely right. This may be as slam dunk as any position on the field.
Edit: OK now, this auto correct is going to far....when I can't even put in D-I-C-K Butkus's name without it being corrected.
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UNC pass rushers Lawrence Taylor & Julius Peppers
Except, technically "pass rusher" is not a position. A nose tackle is a pass rusher on pass plays. Peppers is a DE where TAylor was an OLB. I get where you are coming from, but if we are trying to specify positions....I guess we need to do that.
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