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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @dutch-oven said:

    And right now I'll put Syracuse: RB Jim Brown and Larry Csonka up against anyone.

    ... and you overlooked Ernie Davis, who broke all JB's record at Syracuse, but never had a chance to prove out at the pro level... plus...

    Floyd Little... who broke all of Ernie Davis' records and went on to a HoF career in Denver.

    @tour2ma said:

    ... and you overlooked Ernie Davis, who broke all JB's record at Syracuse, but never had a chance to prove out at the pro level... plus...

    Floyd Little... who broke all of Ernie Davis' records and went on to a HoF career in Denver.

    I started by just naming the best two RBs from Syracuse, I would have included Little too. Davis never played in the NFL, so he wouldn't have made the list.

  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

    @texasag1969 said:

    Texas A&M D Linemen Ray Childress, Michael Bennett, Jacob Greene, Sam Adams, Ty Warren

    I have a feeling U of Miami can beat that, let's see...

    @dutch-oven said:

    I have a feeling U of Miami can beat that, let's see...

    As a group The U was a pretty prolific group:

    • The Hurricanes once had a streak of 149 consecutive regular season weeks where a former Hurricane scored a touchdown in an NFL game; the streak started in Week 15 of the 2002 NFL regular season and ended in Week 11 of the 2011 season. During the streak, 33 different former Hurricanes scored touchdowns and a total of 661 touchdowns were scored.
    GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
  • mjp28M mjp28

    @dutch-oven said:

    I have a feeling U of Miami can beat that, let's see...

    As a group The U was a pretty prolific group:

    • The Hurricanes once had a streak of 149 consecutive regular season weeks where a former Hurricane scored a touchdown in an NFL game; the streak started in Week 15 of the 2002 NFL regular season and ended in Week 11 of the 2011 season. During the streak, 33 different former Hurricanes scored touchdowns and a total of 661 touchdowns were scored.

    @mjp28 said:

    As a group The U was a pretty prolific group:

    • The Hurricanes once had a streak of 149 consecutive regular season weeks where a former Hurricane scored a touchdown in an NFL game; the streak started in Week 15 of the 2002 NFL regular season and ended in Week 11 of the 2011 season. During the streak, 33 different former Hurricanes scored touchdowns and a total of 661 touchdowns were scored.

    Holy crap!

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @gunz41 said:

    Not saying they werent great, my point was that other schools could have a better 2, not weighing Jim Brown a lot more. OJ and Allen would be a better 2 to me.

    Or the triplets of Earl Campbell, Eddie George, and Ezekiel Elliott

    Earl went to Texas...

    George and Elliot were Buckeyes... but you can add Howard "Hopalong" Cassidy... 🙂

    @tour2ma said:

    Earl went to Texas...

    George and Elliot were Buckeyes... but you can add Howard "Hopalong" Cassidy... 🙂

    I feel dumb, I didn't mean Earl Campbell, meant 2 time heisman winner Archie Griffin.

    Wow that was s BIG mistake haha

  • Definitive answer on RBs

    It is close between Syracuse and USC. These are the only 2 schools to produce 2 HOF RBs

    Syracuse had Jim Brown, Larry Csonka, and Floyd Little....all HOF RBs

    USC had OJ Simpson, Marcus Allen, and Frank Gifford. 

    The edge goes to Syracuse....because they have Jim Brown.

    Other schools to produce 2 HOF RBs...or potential HOF RBs..that could contend in the "who produced the best RB category"

    Notre Dame: Paul Hornung and Jerome Bettis

    Georgia: Terrell Davis and Charley Trippi

    SMU: Eric Dickerson and Doak Walker

    Pitt: Tony Dorsett and Curtis Martin

    Penn St.: Franco Harris and Lenny Moore

    Kansas: John Riggins and Gale Sayers

    Oklahoma St. :  Barry Sanders and Thurman Thomas

    Miami: Edgerrin James and Frank Gore (both potential HOF)

    In my opinion the duo of Sanders and Thomas could put OK St. in second place...if you just go by the best two.

  • Definitive answer  on QB.     The fact is, there may be no definitive answer.     Two schools have produce three HOF QBs...or certain HOF QBs:

    Alabama:  Namath, Bart Starr, Ken Stabler

    Purdue:  Len Dawson, Bob Griese, Drew Brees

    Other schools to produce 2 HOF or certain HOF QBs:

    UCLA:  Aikman and Bob Waterfield

    Oregon: Dan Fouts and Norm Van Brocklin

    Duke: Sonny Jurgenson and Ace Parker

    Michigan:  Benny Friedman and Tom Brady

    If you just go by who were the best two....you might have to consider Michigan.  No one here can doubt the credentials of Brady...but most may not know the quality of Friedman.  He was simply the best QB of his era....which was mid 20s to mid 30s. 

    Someone mentioned Stanford and  Elway and Luck.....well...sorry....not so fast my friend.  Luck has a lot to go before he joins the elite QBs in history class.  This is, I assume a question of who were the actual best QBs based on totality of NFL careers.....not on potential. Luck still has a lot of unfulfilled potential...and the jury is out.

  • Definitive answer on WRs:

    There are really only 4 contenders who have produced as many as 2 HOF actual or potential WRs:

    Ohio State:  Cris Carter, Paul Warfield, Dante Lavelli

    Miami, Fla:  Michael Irvin, (Reggie Wayne)  (Andre Johnson)

    Syracuse: Marvin Harrison, Art Monk

    Florida State:  Fred Biletnikoff (Anquon Boldin)

    ( )  means not in but probable HOF

    Very tough choice.  The homer in me wants to pick OSU...and it would be a good pick. So, sure, why not, go with the home choice.  But the others are perfectly legitimately arguable  (If Syracuse were chosen, it would have the top spot in two of these 3 categories!!)

  • Nice to have our own Judge Roy Bean here for the definitive answers. 😉  Well I guess he's the modern day Ohio version  the original was an eccentric U.S. saloon-keeper and Justice of the Peace in Val Verde County, Texas, who called himself "The Law West of the Pecos". I guess he's "The Law East of the Cuyahoga", or is it West?  (and we kid because we care)

     And you almost could have a time cutoff because as time goes on the number of pro teams got larger along with the explosion in number of players. For example the best before/after 1980? The older ones are already in the HOF if they're getting in.      Still a good topic.

    GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!

  • Definitive answer on Tight Ends.   Again, there is none.  NO school has produced more than 1 HOF  or likely HOF caliber TE. The ones that have:

    Notre Dame:  Casper; Pitt: Ditka; Syracuse: Mackey, Minnesota: Charlie Sanders,  Alabama: Ozzie;,  South Carolina: Shannon Sharpe;  NW Louisiana: Jackie Smith; Missouri,  Kellen Winslow;  Cal:  Tony Gonzales?;, Tennesse: Jason Witten?;   Kent State:  Antonio Gates?

    ? means not in HOF...but probable or potential.

    Miami Fla.  has produced two pretty good ones:   Greg Olsen and Jeremy Shockey. 

  • UNC pass rushers Lawrence Taylor & Julius Peppers

    #Justsayin'
    The GipperT 1 Reply

  • Definitive answers on  Offensive Center.    Again, there really is none.  No school has produced more than one HOF center.

    However....Gil Brandt did his list of top 16 centers of all time, and  there is one school on there that has two players:

    Wisconsin:   both Mike Webster and Travis Frederick (current Cowboys center.....though...could Brandt..ex Cowboys GM, be a little biased?  He also has Alex Mack on the top 16 ever. 

    mjp28M 1 Reply

  • Tennessee DEs Reggie White and Doug Atkins (first player ever inducted in college and pro HOf)

    #Justsayin'

  • Definitive Answer on Middle Linebacker:

    Whoever said above that it is Illinois with finger Butkus and Ray Nitschke is absolutely right.   This may be as slam dunk as any position on the field.

    Edit:  OK now, this auto correct is going to far....when I can't even put in D-I-C-K Butkus's name without it being corrected.

  • thenew23T thenew23

    UNC pass rushers Lawrence Taylor & Julius Peppers

    @thenew23 said:

    UNC pass rushers Lawrence Taylor & Julius Peppers

    Except, technically "pass rusher" is not a position.  A nose tackle is a pass rusher on pass plays.  Peppers is a DE where TAylor was an OLB.  I get where you are coming from, but if we are trying to specify positions....I guess we need to do that.

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    Definitive answers on  Offensive Center.    Again, there really is none.  No school has produced more than one HOF center.

    However....Gil Brandt did his list of top 16 centers of all time, and  there is one school on there that has two players:

    Wisconsin:   both Mike Webster and Travis Frederick (current Cowboys center.....though...could Brandt..ex Cowboys GM, be a little biased?  He also has Alex Mack on the top 16 ever. 

    @the-gipper said:

    Definitive answers on  Offensive Center.    Again, there really is none.  No school has produced more than one HOF center.

    However....Gil Brandt did his list of top 16 centers of all time, and  there is one school on there that has two players:

    Wisconsin:   both Mike Webster and Travis Frederick (current Cowboys center.....though...could Brandt..ex Cowboys GM, be a little biased?  He also has Alex Mack on the top 16 ever. 

    Wisconsin and their tradition of All American and NFL caliber linemen which contains to today.

    GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!

  • Safety.    I won't distinguish  between free and strong....but two schools vie for supremacy here:

    Iowa:  Emlen Tunnell and  Paul Krause

    USC:  Ronnie Lott and Willie Wood

    Very hard for me to choose...from these.   Krause is all time leading interceptor, Lott was a hammer.   But, you know, when you put in Troy Polamalu, a likely HOF safety, it probably swings the vote for USC.

  • Cornerback.

    There is one school that stands out as far as producing Hall of Fame Cornerbacks:

    Southern University.    Produced both Mel Blount and Aeneas Williams.

    Both were in Brandt's Top Ten QBs of all time.

  • Defensive Tackle.....strictly 

    Definitive Answer:  Two schools compete

    Miami Fla.:  Cortez Kennedy and Warren Sapp

    Boston College: Ernie Stautner and Art Donovan.

    Only because the two Miami, Fla. guys are more recent...I guess the not goes to them.

  • Auburn Running Backs

    Bo Jackson

    Joe Cribbs

    James Brooks

    Rudi Johnson

    .....may have left some out.

  • Definitive answer on Offensive Guards:    there is absolutely none.

    I have found no school that has produced more than one HOF OG....or even has a second HOF hopeful. 

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