Ok are we done with hogan now?
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I'm not hopeful for Peppers at all unfortunately. Not as an NFL safety. Yeah, I hate Michigan, but if he was Taco Charlton or Jourdan Lewis, we'd all be way happier right now.
There are several articles just like this one outlining why he's not made for the NFL. And all the concerns most analysts had are proving 100% correct so far.
Hope he winds up ok, but they probably just drafted a 1st rd special teamer with that trade down instead of the QB we needed.
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I think with Kessler and Kizer Hues comments are him toeing the company line.
And I do not...
I offer you a stalemate.
Rookies aren’t allowed to make mistakes.
They are of course, but it helps if they also make plays.
I'm perfectly willing to write Peppers lack of contribution to his being played out of position, but I can't think of a single time he challenged a reception in six games.
The arc on some of Hogan's throws would've made a beautiful rainbow had there of been a trail.
... and those were the short throws... #RimShot...
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Hogan had some nice passes today.
Duke was responsible for the INT down the sideline.
Hogan was responsible for the high throw to Duke.
Coates was responsible for the INT down the sideline.
If you didn't watch the game then you wouldn't know but even the announcers said that the DBs on the Texans were pretty much running the WRs routes for them today. Too predictable, Hue didn't do Hogan any favors with the playcalling.
Hogan is usually very accurate and efficient... it was just a bad day all around.
Stick with Hogan and with another week of reps and chemistry we'll make some good progress.
Those clamoring for more Kizer... just remember Kizer was 30 - 0 against the Bengals... Kizer needs to sit.
Hue needs to HELP Hogan be successful so we can win.
Hogan had some nice passes today.
Duke was responsible for the INT down the sideline.
Hogan was responsible for the high throw to Duke.
Coates was responsible for the INT down the sideline.
If you didn't watch the game then you wouldn't know but even the announcers said that the DBs on the Texans were pretty much running the WRs routes for them today. Too predictable, Hue didn't do Hogan any favors with the playcalling.
Hogan is usually very accurate and efficient... it was just a bad day all around.
Stick with Hogan and with another week of reps and chemistry we'll make some good progress.
Those clamoring for more Kizer... just remember Kizer was 30 - 0 against the Bengals... Kizer needs to sit.
Hue needs to HELP Hogan be successful so we can win.
Sometimes when you don't know where to begin a reply.... it's best to just skip it altogether.
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I suppose l'm in the minority on this but l actually thought Hogan showed more arm than l thought he had, meaning he threw some passes that travelled a fair distance before hitting the ground or the loving caress of a defensive back.
Not that the results were good or anything, but as far as point A to point B, there was more distance between those points than l thought he was capable of.
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I suppose l'm in the minority on this but l actually thought Hogan showed more arm than l thought he had, meaning he threw some passes that travelled a fair distance before hitting the ground or the loving caress of a defensive back.
Not that the results were good or anything, but as far as point A to point B, there was more distance between those points than l thought he was capable of.
I suppose l'm in the minority on this but l actually thought Hogan showed more arm than l thought he had, meaning he threw some passes that travelled a fair distance before hitting the ground or the loving caress of a defensive back.
Not that the results were good or anything, but as far as point A to point B, there was more distance between those points than l thought he was capable of.
Ur not recognizing arc. Those throws cant be thrown with that kind of arc. Anyone of us, well...the under 50 crowd.....can heave a ball 40-50 yds "easily" IF we put good spiral on it. Problem is we have to put too much air under the ball. Thats what seperates nfl qb's from us uncle rico twatknuckles, they get it there on a rope. Timing is way way way different
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Hogan had some nice passes today.
Duke was responsible for the INT down the sideline.
Hogan was responsible for the high throw to Duke.
Coates was responsible for the INT down the sideline.
If you didn't watch the game then you wouldn't know but even the announcers said that the DBs on the Texans were pretty much running the WRs routes for them today. Too predictable, Hue didn't do Hogan any favors with the playcalling.
Hogan is usually very accurate and efficient... it was just a bad day all around.
Stick with Hogan and with another week of reps and chemistry we'll make some good progress.
Those clamoring for more Kizer... just remember Kizer was 30 - 0 against the Bengals... Kizer needs to sit.
Hue needs to HELP Hogan be successful so we can win.
Hogan had some nice passes today.
Duke was responsible for the INT down the sideline.
Hogan was responsible for the high throw to Duke.
Coates was responsible for the INT down the sideline.
If you didn't watch the game then you wouldn't know but even the announcers said that the DBs on the Texans were pretty much running the WRs routes for them today. Too predictable, Hue didn't do Hogan any favors with the playcalling.
Hogan is usually very accurate and efficient... it was just a bad day all around.
Stick with Hogan and with another week of reps and chemistry we'll make some good progress.
Those clamoring for more Kizer... just remember Kizer was 30 - 0 against the Bengals... Kizer needs to sit.
Hue needs to HELP Hogan be successful so we can win.
If he had Gordon to throw to, TR to hand off to, we would be set.
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I suppose l'm in the minority on this but l actually thought Hogan showed more arm than l thought he had, meaning he threw some passes that travelled a fair distance before hitting the ground or the loving caress of a defensive back.
Not that the results were good or anything, but as far as point A to point B, there was more distance between those points than l thought he was capable of.
Ur not recognizing arc. Those throws cant be thrown with that kind of arc. Anyone of us, well...the under 50 crowd.....can heave a ball 40-50 yds "easily" IF we put good spiral on it. Problem is we have to put too much air under the ball. Thats what seperates nfl qb's from us uncle rico twatknuckles, they get it there on a rope. Timing is way way way different
Ur not recognizing arc. Those throws cant be thrown with that kind of arc. Anyone of us, well...the under 50 crowd.....can heave a ball 40-50 yds "easily" IF we put good spiral on it. Problem is we have to put too much air under the ball. Thats what seperates nfl qb's from us uncle rico twatknuckles, they get it there on a rope. Timing is way way way different
To be fair, Uncle Rico threw a seed with the steak. Good speed on that steak, uncanny accuracy.
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Ur not recognizing arc. Those throws cant be thrown with that kind of arc. Anyone of us, well...the under 50 crowd.....can heave a ball 40-50 yds "easily" IF we put good spiral on it. Problem is we have to put too much air under the ball. Thats what seperates nfl qb's from us uncle rico twatknuckles, they get it there on a rope. Timing is way way way different
To be fair, Uncle Rico threw a seed with the steak. Good speed on that steak, uncanny accuracy.
To be fair, Uncle Rico threw a seed with the steak. Good speed on that steak, uncanny accuracy.
Uncle rico threw a fukking ball over a fukking mountain. <mic drop>
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Hr's aged......but ihe still looks like he's got it. Mid season pick up?
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Hr's aged......but ihe still looks like he's got it. Mid season pick up?
Hr's aged......but ihe still looks like he's got it. Mid season pick up?
Did he ever get that time machine working? If so, then yes.
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From the guy who picked off Hogan. "Both Kizer and Hogan have big arms"...
also revealed some telling information late in the video.
Stay with Hogan. Team loss and Hogan helped, period. Hogan is still the better QB. He, like almost every single QB in the NFL had a bad game. Give him another shot.
Hogan does NOT have a weak arm.
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Tom Brady threw for just 168 yards in his first start.
That same game Peyton Manning threw three interceptions, two for pick-six touchdowns.
I'm not saying that Hogan is Tom Brady or Peyton Manning right now, he's basically a rookie with a year in Hue's broken system.
We have never seen Hogan play the way he played last week. That was abnormal. He was 'forcing' and trying to put the team on his back. He probably knew that he would have to blow it out of the water to keep Kizer on the sidelines. Hue has been ADAMANT in his loyalty to Kizer and that won't help you play loose either.
It could be the pressure that Hue is applying on these guys about 'NOT' throwing INTS... When you think about NOT throwing INTs that's when it's going to happen. It's just like the dropped balls, whatever this team focuses on starts to magnify itself and manifest itself into games, over and over until something else starts to pop up. Then Hue focuses on that and then that starts to turn into a new monster that haunts us for months...
The people that say that Hogan is a bum and all that, after one game, calling for his head... Hue Jackson has lost more games in the usage of his timeouts, mismanagement of the clock, throwing games left and right. Victories in hand just turned into losses right before our eyes... and you guys are condemning Hogan after 1 start.
The guy has done EVERYTHING right up to that point and then he struggled against a HOT team. Like most people thought he would with just a three day notice he made some mistakes in his first start.
Be patient, support your QB and let's try to get a win at home this weekend.
The negativity and the hatred some Browns' fans have shown after this last defeat is more damaging to a QBs confidence than anything that happened on Sunday.
They say Cleveland has the best fans... hmmm we'll see.
Dbone... Hogan's arm is fine. Please quit saying that. If anything he was trying to throw his passes softly for his receivers. There is a balance to knowing which guys can handle which passes, that takes a little time to iron out. He can throw it faster, I promise you. Some of it was second guessing and thinking to much, needs a bit more decisiveness. That will come with confidence. Hue knows football, he knew he was going to lose that game. He knew Kizer would bomb in that game it would have wrecked him for the year. Hue sacrificed Hogan, maybe even sabotaged him. Who knows? But I do know, as well as you do, albeit somewhere deep inside that Hogan can play better than that. Come on man, you're better than that.
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
Sorry brother man, but if Hogan's arm were a horse, it would be a pink My Little Pony.
If Hogan's arm was a horse, it would have been shot and made into glue by now.
Hogan's arm gets laughed at by Colt McCoy.
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Tom Brady threw for just 168 yards in his first start.
That same game Peyton Manning threw three interceptions, two for pick-six touchdowns.
I'm not saying that Hogan is Tom Brady or Peyton Manning right now, he's basically a rookie with a year in Hue's broken system.
We have never seen Hogan play the way he played last week. That was abnormal. He was 'forcing' and trying to put the team on his back. He probably knew that he would have to blow it out of the water to keep Kizer on the sidelines. Hue has been ADAMANT in his loyalty to Kizer and that won't help you play loose either.
It could be the pressure that Hue is applying on these guys about 'NOT' throwing INTS... When you think about NOT throwing INTs that's when it's going to happen. It's just like the dropped balls, whatever this team focuses on starts to magnify itself and manifest itself into games, over and over until something else starts to pop up. Then Hue focuses on that and then that starts to turn into a new monster that haunts us for months...
The people that say that Hogan is a bum and all that, after one game, calling for his head... Hue Jackson has lost more games in the usage of his timeouts, mismanagement of the clock, throwing games left and right. Victories in hand just turned into losses right before our eyes... and you guys are condemning Hogan after 1 start.
The guy has done EVERYTHING right up to that point and then he struggled against a HOT team. Like most people thought he would with just a three day notice he made some mistakes in his first start.
Be patient, support your QB and let's try to get a win at home this weekend.
The negativity and the hatred some Browns' fans have shown after this last defeat is more damaging to a QBs confidence than anything that happened on Sunday.
They say Cleveland has the best fans... hmmm we'll see.
Dbone... Hogan's arm is fine. Please quit saying that. If anything he was trying to throw his passes softly for his receivers. There is a balance to knowing which guys can handle which passes, that takes a little time to iron out. He can throw it faster, I promise you. Some of it was second guessing and thinking to much, needs a bit more decisiveness. That will come with confidence. Hue knows football, he knew he was going to lose that game. He knew Kizer would bomb in that game it would have wrecked him for the year. Hue sacrificed Hogan, maybe even sabotaged him. Who knows? But I do know, as well as you do, albeit somewhere deep inside that Hogan can play better than that. Come on man, you're better than that.
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In a former life, PoG was the Public Relations Man for the H.M.S. Titanic.
"If it wasn't for the iceberg, and the fact that over a thousand people perished, and the ship is at the bottom of the Atlantic, THE TITANIC'S MAIDEN VOYAGE WAS A SUCCESS!"
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How anyone could watch that game and come to the conclusion hogans arm is nfl is beyond me. He wasnt trying to throw soft balls, he was stepping in and heaving the ball.....putting it way over
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PoG is a troll of a different color or just full blown autistic.
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My favorite part is POGs logic for not wanting Kizer, completely forgetting it, and then defending Hogan for the same thing.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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