Ok are we done with hogan now?
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My favorite part is POGs logic for not wanting Kizer, completely forgetting it, and then defending Hogan for the same thing.
And vice versa for the other side.
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And vice versa for the other side.
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They both s u k k monkeyballz until I see evidence to the contrary.
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My favorite part is POGs logic for not wanting Kizer, completely forgetting it, and then defending Hogan for the same thing.
My favorite part is POGs logic for not wanting Kizer, completely forgetting it, and then defending Hogan for the same thing.
That I can forgive...
Not seeing what is on tape... what I saw live... is the unforgivable part.
Hey, Po... rank these arms for me please... from strongest to weakest...
- Carr
- Hogan
- Kizer
- Hoyer
- Favre
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1) farve
2)kizer/carr
3)hoyer
502)hogan
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I'm like 99.9 % sure that Hue will announce Kizer as next week's starter on Wednesday.
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I'm like 99.9 % sure that Hue will announce Kizer as next week's starter on Wednesday.
Id give it another week or yank hogan at halftime if he shts the bed again. I think a week or two off isnt a horrible idea for kizer
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Id give it another week
But do you think Hue will? I don't.
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Id give it another week
But do you think Hue will? I don't.
But do you think Hue will? I don't.
I venture not cause kiz is his boy. I think he started hogan and didnt change the offense to shiw us all that hogan aint cuttin it in his offense. I agree too, why make ur wr's who already are having issues with the drops....drastically alter their routes or learn new ones altogether for this guy with a d3 "HS" arm. Seriously hue could head across town and grab ignatius's or ed's qb and be able to deepen those routes.
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But do you think Hue will? I don't.
I venture not cause kiz is his boy. I think he started hogan and didnt change the offense to shiw us all that hogan aint cuttin it in his offense. I agree too, why make ur wr's who already are having issues with the drops....drastically alter their routes or learn new ones altogether for this guy with a d3 "HS" arm. Seriously hue could head across town and grab ignatius's or ed's qb and be able to deepen those routes.
I venture not cause kiz is his boy. I think he started hogan and didnt change the offense to shiw us all that hogan aint cuttin it in his offense. I agree too, why make ur wr's who already are having issues with the drops....drastically alter their routes or learn new ones altogether for this guy with a d3 "HS" arm. Seriously hue could head across town and grab ignatius's or ed's qb and be able to deepen those routes.
Then Hue is a freaking idiot. You don't make the player fit your system- you call plays that the talent on hand can execute. If that's Jackson's attitude- he should be gone- just MHO.
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Id give it another week or yank hogan at halftime if he shts the bed again. I think a week or two off isnt a horrible idea for kizer
Agreed.
How can everyone say Kizer needed a some quality bench time then want to trot him out again already.
I think PoG makes some good points about it being Hogan’s first start, actually. I don’t think we’ve gotten a true evaluation of him yet and you have to factor in Houston having a great defense (even minus a couple starters). But even beyond that, we MUST break this cycle of “one bad game, ok onto the next guy.”
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Id give it another week or yank hogan at halftime if he shts the bed again. I think a week or two off isnt a horrible idea for kizer
Agreed.
How can everyone say Kizer needed a some quality bench time then want to trot him out again already.
I think PoG makes some good points about it being Hogan’s first start, actually. I don’t think we’ve gotten a true evaluation of him yet and you have to factor in Houston having a great defense (even minus a couple starters). But even beyond that, we MUST break this cycle of “one bad game, ok onto the next guy.”
Agreed.
How can everyone say Kizer needed a some quality bench time then want to trot him out again already.
I think PoG makes some good points about it being Hogan’s first start, actually. I don’t think we’ve gotten a true evaluation of him yet and you have to factor in Houston having a great defense (even minus a couple starters). But even beyond that, we MUST break this cycle of “one bad game, ok onto the next guy.”
I saw the game, and Hogan played very bad, but really, to only let him have one start and then to write him off is horrible. Kizer had more starts, and did worse altogether.
We should obviously stick with Kizer for now, but he's regressing and getting worse every week. Things need to change. We need an offensive coordinator.
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Getting benched can potentially have positive benefits. It's possible Kizer gained some perspective while standing on the sidelines, and it's also possible it reinvigorated his determination to be our starting QB. Obviously, getting benched could have the opposite effects as well, but I'm trying to be hopeful in the face of miserable circumstances.
To be honest, I wouldn't MIND some of the Kizer bone-headed plays if he just scored a few more TD's, ya know? I mean, take that fumble on the ridiculous option play. If we score a TD on that drive (and I believe that's the one where he missed a wide open Njoku), we're feeling pretty good about things. The biggest issue with Kizer is we're just not seeing enough positives to outweigh the negatives. We simply can't say, "Well he's a rookie, those things are going to happen" because they're happening infinitely more than anything positive. If Kizer could just balance out some of the terrible plays, I'd be feeling better. Stick a couple in the end zone, QB draw-sneak it in (like every team does against US), hit a receiver on a fade route in the corner, or here's a thought...SCORE A TOUCHDOWN RUNNING THE BALL TO HELP THE YOUNG KID OUT. Jesus, how many times have we handed the ball to a RB inside the 20, only to see him get his butt blown apart? Lord, it would help Kizer SO MUCH if we could just run the darn thing into the end zone, instead of trying to find a gimmick play.
We need to start HELPING this kid out. Let's take that fumbled pitch on the option. Yes, it was a terrible pitch, but don't you think you could've FALLEN ON IT, CROW? And what about the drops from the receivers? The Kenny Britt drop-INT's? The inability to run the ball into the pay-dirt? And here's a thought, if the pass DOES get knocked into the air, how about one of our WR's swatting the ball down so nobody else can grab it? Deshaun Watson threw one of the worst passes in NFL history that should've been a pick-6, but you know what HIS receiver did? His receiver came back for the ball, attacked it IN THE AIR, and made sure nobody could secure it. You ever see any of OUR bozos do that? Uhh...no. How about making some dang FG's, ZANE?!
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Getting benched might provide some kind of a spark for a guy who's slacking off. Does that seem to be the case here? Anybody?
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Getting benched can potentially have positive benefits. It's possible Kizer gained some perspective while standing on the sidelines, and it's also possible it reinvigorated his determination to be our starting QB. Obviously, getting benched could have the opposite effects as well, but I'm trying to be hopeful in the face of miserable circumstances.
To be honest, I wouldn't MIND some of the Kizer bone-headed plays if he just scored a few more TD's, ya know? I mean, take that fumble on the ridiculous option play. If we score a TD on that drive (and I believe that's the one where he missed a wide open Njoku), we're feeling pretty good about things. The biggest issue with Kizer is we're just not seeing enough positives to outweigh the negatives. We simply can't say, "Well he's a rookie, those things are going to happen" because they're happening infinitely more than anything positive. If Kizer could just balance out some of the terrible plays, I'd be feeling better. Stick a couple in the end zone, QB draw-sneak it in (like every team does against US), hit a receiver on a fade route in the corner, or here's a thought...SCORE A TOUCHDOWN RUNNING THE BALL TO HELP THE YOUNG KID OUT. Jesus, how many times have we handed the ball to a RB inside the 20, only to see him get his butt blown apart? Lord, it would help Kizer SO MUCH if we could just run the darn thing into the end zone, instead of trying to find a gimmick play.
We need to start HELPING this kid out. Let's take that fumbled pitch on the option. Yes, it was a terrible pitch, but don't you think you could've FALLEN ON IT, CROW? And what about the drops from the receivers? The Kenny Britt drop-INT's? The inability to run the ball into the pay-dirt? And here's a thought, if the pass DOES get knocked into the air, how about one of our WR's swatting the ball down so nobody else can grab it? Deshaun Watson threw one of the worst passes in NFL history that should've been a pick-6, but you know what HIS receiver did? His receiver came back for the ball, attacked it IN THE AIR, and made sure nobody could secure it. You ever see any of OUR bozos do that? Uhh...no. How about making some dang FG's, ZANE?!
Let's take that fumbled pitch on the option. Yes, it was a terrible pitch, but don't you think you could've FALLEN ON IT, CROW?
I think Crow's momentum was such that he could not just stop and fall on that poorly pitched ball. And Kizer should never have blamed Crow.
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Getting benched might provide some kind of a spark for a guy who's slacking off. Does that seem to be the case here? Anybody?
WSS
Getting benched might provide some kind of a spark for a guy who's slacking off. Does that seem to be the case here? Anybody?
WSS
Can u furnish evidence that kizers problems were the result of slacking off? No ofc u cant. The kids a rookie who by all accts worked his Shmucking butt off in TC. He wasnt CFL ready when he reported to camp. Dude looked horrible the first few weeks. He's a rookie. He's a rookie that by all accts needed another year , or even two, of college. But we took him as a known project. We should hsve cut osweiler earlier and kept mccown, ce la vie
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Getting benched might provide some kind of a spark for a guy who's slacking off. Does that seem to be the case here? Anybody?
WSS
Getting benched might provide some kind of a spark for a guy who's slacking off. Does that seem to be the case here? Anybody?
Why don't you take a week off and let us know?
Can't believe I missed this opening yesterday... 🥷
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Getting benched might provide some kind of a spark for a guy who's slacking off. Does that seem to be the case here? Anybody?
WSS
Can u furnish evidence that kizers problems were the result of slacking off? No ofc u cant. The kids a rookie who by all accts worked his Shmucking butt off in TC. He wasnt CFL ready when he reported to camp. Dude looked horrible the first few weeks. He's a rookie. He's a rookie that by all accts needed another year , or even two, of college. But we took him as a known project. We should hsve cut osweiler earlier and kept mccown, ce la vie
Can u furnish evidence that kizers problems were the result of slacking off? No ofc u cant. The kids a rookie who by all accts worked his Shmucking butt off in TC. He wasnt CFL ready when he reported to camp. Dude looked horrible the first few weeks. He's a rookie. He's a rookie that by all accts needed another year , or even two, of college. But we took him as a known project. We should hsve cut osweiler earlier and kept mccown, ce la vie
Why don't you take a week off and let us know?
Can't believe I missed this opening yesterday... 🥷
Hard to believe both of you guys miss the point. Well, I'll break it down. Getting benched might be a wake-up call for someone who has been slacking off. When I said does that seem to be the case to any of you guys I meant this:
It does not seem to me that DeSean Kizer has been doing anything other than working as hard as possible to do his very best on game day. Therefore I don't think that a wake-up call in the form of a bitching is probably going to help.
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Getting benched might provide some kind of a spark for a guy who's slacking off. Does that seem to be the case here? Anybody?
Why don't you take a week off and let us know?
Can't believe I missed this opening yesterday... 🥷
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