Hue most likely gone now....
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I can't see us going 4-5 over the next 9, which is the MINIMUM of what Hue probably has to do to keep his job. Even that would place him at 5-27 over his tenure, which blows. And I don't think he even gets to 4 wins this year.
His decision to decline a fifteen yard penalty in the first qtr when the titans had the ball on the 32 and give them a 4th and 1 was absurd....that speaks to his understanding of risk/reward and expected pt totals....just an obscene coaching malpractice decision.
I can't see us going 4-5 over the next 9, which is the MINIMUM of what Hue probably has to do to keep his job.
According to who, you?
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We're in the business of winning games
- Hue Jackson from the Presser 10/22
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I can't see us going 4-5 over the next 9, which is the MINIMUM of what Hue probably has to do to keep his job. Even that would place him at 5-27 over his tenure, which blows. And I don't think he even gets to 4 wins this year.
His decision to decline a fifteen yard penalty in the first qtr when the titans had the ball on the 32 and give them a 4th and 1 was absurd....that speaks to his understanding of risk/reward and expected pt totals....just an obscene coaching malpractice decision.
I can't see us going 4-5 over the next 9, which is the MINIMUM of what Hue probably has to do to keep his job. Even that would place him at 5-27 over his tenure, which blows. And I don't think he even gets to 4 wins this year.
His decision to decline a fifteen yard penalty in the first qtr when the titans had the ball on the 32 and give them a 4th and 1 was absurd....that speaks to his understanding of risk/reward and expected pt totals....just an obscene coaching malpractice decision.
If Hue staying or going was predicated on winning 4 games he would be gone already. It is and has been blatantly honest that wont happen. The question is does JH think the Sheet show is on the coach, the FO or both?
If it is true that Hue wanted Wentz and then Watson and the FO went in a different direction you have to crucify the FO.
I agree the declined penalty today was a head scratcher.
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Did someone just fart?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
We're in the business of winning games
- Hue Jackson from the Presser 10/22
We're in the business of winning games
- Hue Jackson from the Presser 10/22
He clearly didn't graduate with a business degree........
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I can't see us going 4-5 over the next 9, which is the MINIMUM of what Hue probably has to do to keep his job. Even that would place him at 5-27 over his tenure, which blows. And I don't think he even gets to 4 wins this year.
His decision to decline a fifteen yard penalty in the first qtr when the titans had the ball on the 32 and give them a 4th and 1 was absurd....that speaks to his understanding of risk/reward and expected pt totals....just an obscene coaching malpractice decision.
If Hue staying or going was predicated on winning 4 games he would be gone already. It is and has been blatantly honest that wont happen. The question is does JH think the Sheet show is on the coach, the FO or both?
If it is true that Hue wanted Wentz and then Watson and the FO went in a different direction you have to crucify the FO.
I agree the declined penalty today was a head scratcher.
I agree the declined penalty today was a head scratcher.
Hue said at the presser he thought they would kick a field goal instead of going for it, and that they have a VERY good kicker. That logic doesn't make any sense keeping them out of field goal range. I wish it did. Hue is a good offensive coordinator probably, but leading the team and making overall tough calls, he seems to crack under pressure.
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I agree the declined penalty today was a head scratcher.
Hue said at the presser he thought they would kick a field goal instead of going for it, and that they have a VERY good kicker. That logic doesn't make any sense keeping them out of field goal range. I wish it did. Hue is a good offensive coordinator probably, but leading the team and making overall tough calls, he seems to crack under pressure.
Hue said at the presser he thought they would kick a field goal instead of going for it, and that they have a VERY good kicker. That logic doesn't make any sense keeping them out of field goal range.
Hue must have watched the same college game I did yesterday... same situation arose.
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Hue said at the presser he thought they would kick a field goal instead of going for it, and that they have a VERY good kicker. That logic doesn't make any sense keeping them out of field goal range.
Hue must have watched the same college game I did yesterday... same situation arose.
Hue must have watched the same college game I did yesterday... same situation arose.
what did the coach do?
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Hue said at the presser he thought they would kick a field goal instead of going for it, and that they have a VERY good kicker. That logic doesn't make any sense keeping them out of field goal range.
Hue must have watched the same college game I did yesterday... same situation arose.
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it was such a wrong decision because it's WRONG whether tennessee goes for it on 4th and 1 or kicks a fg. Who cares what choice they make hue? Either one is much crappier for us than 3rd and 16.
In college though, the team would have gone for it every time on 4th and 1...still the right thing to do is make it 3rd and 16 though.
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what did the coach do?
KIcked the FG.
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That timeout at the end really sucked!
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I think he's gone at season end, almost 100%
Whateva, on to the next one.
I'm not saying I want him gone or otherwise, but it doesn't matter at this point because I'm almost certain unless some miracle happens he's gonna get Sheet canned and leave a statement to the paper that says "I understand it's a bottom line business..."
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Disaster. Im sorry ghoolie but ur wrong. The only way ill even entertain the idea is if the caveatbis keeping williams. The def is actually building something and im not even slightly keen on another scheme shakeup.
Even u have to admit this defense, while not world beaters...is actually not half bad. They didnt let henry and murray run all over them. The secondary is making some plays too. Thats been a pleasant surprise to me. Starting over next year "again"? Nope. No interest. We need to add veterans at some key positions, like DE...but all in all u have to admit that in just 7 games williams has built something serviceable. The defense actually looks like an nfl defense.
Disaster. Im sorry ghoolie but ur wrong. The only way ill even entertain the idea is if the caveatbis keeping williams. The def is actually building something and im not even slightly keen on another scheme shakeup.
Even u have to admit this defense, while not world beaters...is actually not half bad. They didnt let henry and murray run all over them. The secondary is making some plays too. Thats been a pleasant surprise to me. Starting over next year "again"? Nope. No interest. We need to add veterans at some key positions, like DE...but all in all u have to admit that in just 7 games williams has built something serviceable. The defense actually looks like an nfl defense.
I have no issue with Williams. The D is badass. But it does expose Hue as ineffective at 1 - 22
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Disaster. Im sorry ghoolie but ur wrong. The only way ill even entertain the idea is if the caveatbis keeping williams. The def is actually building something and im not even slightly keen on another scheme shakeup.
Even u have to admit this defense, while not world beaters...is actually not half bad. They didnt let henry and murray run all over them. The secondary is making some plays too. Thats been a pleasant surprise to me. Starting over next year "again"? Nope. No interest. We need to add veterans at some key positions, like DE...but all in all u have to admit that in just 7 games williams has built something serviceable. The defense actually looks like an nfl defense.
I have no issue with Williams. The D is badass. But it does expose Hue as ineffective at 1 - 22
I have no issue with Williams.
What? How many times have you said that you hate him? And his D is a bunch of undisciplined blitzers running around out there?
Aaaanyway. I think Hue is a terrible game managing coach...and have for quite some time...but he IS shackled with poor QB's and WR's in a PASSING league. Even a real good coach would be scratching his head at what he can do to get a win. This stockpile of losses that we've accumed over the last two years is NOT his fault.
Do I think he should be replaced? Yeah. But not because of all of the losses.
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I have no issue with Williams.
What? How many times have you said that you hate him? And his D is a bunch of undisciplined blitzers running around out there?
Aaaanyway. I think Hue is a terrible game managing coach...and have for quite some time...but he IS shackled with poor QB's and WR's in a PASSING league. Even a real good coach would be scratching his head at what he can do to get a win. This stockpile of losses that we've accumed over the last two years is NOT his fault.
Do I think he should be replaced? Yeah. But not because of all of the losses.
I think Hue is a terrible game managing coach...and have for quite some time...but he IS shackled with poor QB's and WR's in a PASSING league. Even a real good coach would be scratching his head at what he can do to get a win. This stockpile of losses that we've accumed over the last two years is NOT his fault.
I really am wondering if it's the Chicken or the Egg.... I don't know who I'm more pissed at or blame the most, Hue on every single game day, or the FO giving Hue the players he has on every single game day.
....... and for what it's worth, the defense is watchable this year, and if truth be told, we would all have loved to have had this defense for any season over the last decade or so. They still seem to fold when we need them most, but overall, they aren't our problem.
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Pass attempts: 3rd most in the NFL, 30TH IN YPA (plus 14 INTs, 6 more than the next worst). Rush attempts: 20th in NFL, 15th in YPC
Other division leaders:
Rams: 18th in pass atps, 7th in rushes, despite ranked 19th in ypc
Eagles: 12th in pass atps, 4th in rushes
Jags: 27th in pass atps, 1st in rushes
This speaks to playcalling. These teams with young QBs STRONGLY emphasize the run game, and throw the ball far less than we do with developing QBs. We should be closer to what the Jags do, but were calling plays like we have Aaron Rodgers. Its very frustrating.
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I'm willing to let the FO continue. It's too soon to move on from them, but Hue...?
I feel like he's proven he cannot put his players in a position to win, or adapt to his players' strengths/weaknesses, or call plays and be a HC, or manage a game...
There are many instances of a new HC turning things around in 1-2 years, but not new FO & HC... If I have to choose, I say bye bye Hue...
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Did someone just fart?
The horrible odor emanating from the field today was detectable in the stands Tour. And to top off another thrilling way to lose a game, Joe Thomas is probably out for the year. I would gladly have settled for a tie, but NOOOOO.
Hope your London sightseeing goes well. That game in Twickenham? Either load up on antacids, or drink heavily beforehand, and during the game. Howie and the G-Man will show you how to pound Guinness like a pro.
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