Joe tore his tricep....
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MKC reports "JT to undergo MRI tomorrow. Left Arm in sling. JT has a serious Triceps Injury".. Guys were shocked in huddle where Kessler could hear "we are winning this for Joe"..Sad Day for all Joe Thomas Hero's..#73 Good Luck #1 Badass Badger..
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Not from me, but I have wanted the Browns to consider drafting Joe's eventual replacement the last two drafts. This injury probably forces the Browns to do so now. I just remember the Browns struggling filling the LT position from '99-06 until Thomas was drafted in '07.
OK... who did you want? What were you willing to invest in a future LT 2 to 5 years before you likely needed him?
Pretty sure we did invest some by taking shots with Coleman and then Rod Johnson in successive drafts... can even throw in signing Zach Banner and Zach Sterup. Banner's a stiff IMO, but Johnson has some gifts... he's just raw. Unfortunately he's also on IR. Sterup? Has a chance, but still a raw kid who's on the PS.
Losing Joe was always the nightmare scenario for this OL... but also seemingly the most remote of possibilities. Sashi simply could not know I was going to buy a Joe T jersey...
So now, assuming Joe is done, then we likely activate Sterup as step one and see what we have. Someone has been taking Joe's Wed reps all season and took all his reps this past week. My guess is those, or at least the Lion's share of those, went to Drango.
My uninformed preference would be flipping Shon to LT and Drango to right. Simply matter of your most athletic OT is your LT. That was Joe; now it's Shon. But I do not know, if Shon has ever played LT. I know he was RT at Auburn when I "scouted" him.
If Shon can flip, then Drango can start at RT, the side he is used to playing for us at RG and RT. But have to note that he was a LT in college. Some players flip with ease... some can't flip worth a flip.
Banner and Sterup? I think they were both LTs in college. They'd have enough issues without flipping sides.
All that said... This is a tough travel week to figure this all out.
- So my uninformed prediction is Shon stays at RT and Drango gets the London start... with Banner and Sterup in the wings.
- Then during the Bye Week we explore all the flipping.
Let us pray..
OK... who did you want? What were you willing to invest in a future LT 2 to 5 years before you likely needed him?
In the last draft I liked Ryan Ramczyk, from... wait for it... Wisconsin, as Thomas's eventual replacement at LT.
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I dont remember too many names but for the last coyple drafts i was saying we needed to draft one of these high ranked tackles cause we desperately needed a RT but also as JT's eventual replacement. A tackle has been #1-3 on my depth chart for a while now.
In 2016 i wanted bosa but would have been good with conklin or tunsil. Not sure how gasmask tunny is doing but we saw conklin today ar RT
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Joe Thomas tweeted. . .
Tough day today. I appreciate the outpouring of support! MRI Monday to figure out where we go from here. Go Browns!!
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
In the last draft I liked Ryan Ramczyk, from... wait for it... Wisconsin, as Thomas's eventual replacement at LT.
So you wanted to spend a late #1... in lieu of Njoku? Peppers? Simply is not what I would have done from a priority/need standpoint at the time.
I never got around to looking at Ryan pre-draft, but shopping for OL at UW is a no-brainer. How is he looking with the Saints?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Joe Thomas tweeted. . .
Tough day today. I appreciate the outpouring of support! MRI Monday to figure out where we go from here. Go Browns!!
Joe Thomas tweeted. . .
Tough day today. I appreciate the outpouring of support! MRI Monday to figure out where we go from here. Go Browns!!
I cannot picture Joe going out this way...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
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In the last draft I liked Ryan Ramczyk, from... wait for it... Wisconsin, as Thomas's eventual replacement at LT.
So you wanted to spend a late #1... in lieu of Njoku? Peppers? Simply is not what I would have done from a priority/need standpoint at the time.
I never got around to looking at Ryan pre-draft, but shopping for OL at UW is a no-brainer. How is he looking with the Saints?
So you wanted to spend a late #1... in lieu of Njoku? Peppers? Simply is not what I would have done from a priority/need standpoint at the time.
I never got around to looking at Ryan pre-draft, but shopping for OL at UW is a no-brainer. How is he looking with the Saints?
I sure did. Having a quality LT is essential in today's NFL, and Thomas was entering his 11th NFL season. It wasn't an if, but a when regarding him either suffering a major injury or hanging up his cleats.
I'm not sure how Ramczyk is presently doing, but he did start the season at LT for the Saints.
P.S. So I went and found my first mock draft for the Browns (Rounds 1-3) in last year's draft (on the board mjp and I are on). Done on 1/2/17, I had the Browns taking Garrett, Alabama CB Marlon Humphrey at Rd 1/#12, then Ramcczyk at 2/#33 and OSU Center Pat Elflein in Round 3. Later in the thread, I added something kind of funny:
"Anyone else think Jabrill Peppers from Michigan is more of a "jack of all trades, master of none" type of guy in the NFL? I question some of the very high rankings on him, especially considering he's projected to be a safety who in college made very few plays at that position."
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confirmed season of suck continues 0-16
confirmed season of suck continues 0-16
.... or season of perfection - glass 1/2 full thing.
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Can Shon not slide over?
Looking forward to the “I’ve been saying for years we should have traded JT! Front office - bunch of idiots” posts.
Can Shon not slide over?
Looking forward to the “I’ve been saying for years we should have traded JT! Front office - bunch of idiots” posts.
Can Bito slide over to LT? I heard some discussion of that possibility in the past.....
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Can Shon not slide over?
Looking forward to the “I’ve been saying for years we should have traded JT! Front office - bunch of idiots” posts.
Not from me, but I have wanted the Browns to consider drafting Joe's eventual replacement the last two drafts. This injury probably forces the Browns to do so now. I just remember the Browns struggling filling the LT position from '99-06 until Thomas was drafted in '07.
Not from me, but I have wanted the Browns to consider drafting Joe's eventual replacement the last two drafts. This injury probably forces the Browns to do so now. I just remember the Browns struggling filling the LT position from '99-06 until Thomas was drafted in '07.
Yeah that's as important as trying to find that elusive once in a generation "franchise quarterback".
And as we're all going to find out over the next 9 games it's hard to replace an HOF caliber O-linemen especially at LT.
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i'm hoping we can pick up adam bisnowaty, very raw but has a ton of power
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Honestly had tears in my eyes.
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This will probably take a long long time.
WSS
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Joe Thomas is the only jersey I'll ever buy, I think - he was getting pain all over during the season - now he can finally
take a break. Hell of a guy, outstanding LT, Outstanding Cleveland Brown.
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Not from me, but I have wanted the Browns to consider drafting Joe's eventual replacement the last two drafts. This injury probably forces the Browns to do so now. I just remember the Browns struggling filling the LT position from '99-06 until Thomas was drafted in '07.
Yeah that's as important as trying to find that elusive once in a generation "franchise quarterback".
And as we're all going to find out over the next 9 games it's hard to replace an HOF caliber O-linemen especially at LT.
Yeah that's as important as trying to find that elusive once in a generation "franchise quarterback".
And as we're all going to find out over the next 9 games it's hard to replace an HOF caliber O-linemen especially at LT.
You mean we could lose the rest of the games? Actually how much worse can we be?
WSS
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Get well Joe.
We're about to find out just how valuable 'fatass' Joe Thomas is.
Kessler having to run for his life much of the time. Of course, part of the problem was that Shmucking Hue kept running play action passes that take time....and without Joe the protection was just not there to allow those plays to develop. Hue failed to adjust to the situation.....as usual.
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Can Shon not slide over?
Looking forward to the “I’ve been saying for years we should have traded JT! Front office - bunch of idiots” posts.
Can Bito slide over to LT? I heard some discussion of that possibility in the past.....
Can Bito slide over to LT? I heard some discussion of that possibility in the past.....
Probably from me... at least I now I've said he was our best option in the past. Now I think that ship has sailed. No longer seeing the movement I saw in Bito the rookie.
Honestly had tears in my eyes.
Definitely got a lil misty-eyed myself, plus nauseous...
The hole this leaves is not only on the field. Locker room leadership is just not the same when you don't cross the sideline suited up...
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Let's put this into proper perspective.
There is no doubt about it, Joe Thomas was a star at his position. Clearly his replacement was an open floodgate for the Titans overtime pass rush. That said, I'll make my observations.
1) Many of you love Hue and the FO. You go on at length about managing assets, building for the future, and other such euphemisms. Yet here we have an example where Thomas's "youthful, building-for-the-future replacement was a total disaster. Now, if all of this building for the future rah-rah-rah stuff was true, and if as you say the FO is the first to finally recognize how important the OL is, AND............... we have the highest paid OL in the NFL..............exactly how the hell is it that this replacement could be so horrible?
Seriously, that is a lot of contradiction for you guys who were chanting this managing assets mantra.
2) Regardless of how good Joe Thomas was or is, he did not change the fortunes of the Browns in any real measurable way. Get angry if you want, project how much worse it would be if we didn't have him, however, in terms of wins and losses, in terms of changing the destiny of the Browns, Joe Thomas ranks very, very low when compared to the impact that other #1 draft picks have made. In all honesty, we lose with him, we lose without him. Is your argument that we lose more respectably with him?
3) Clearly a LT is important, However, many teams have very decent LTs and don't waste a #1 pick to get them. In fact, the better teams seem to have no issue finding 2 or 3 guys that can play decently at that position. If the Browns rush to the high draft rounds in an effort to replace him, they are nuts. How in the name of God can you have the highest paid OL in the NFL and not have a serviceable back-up LT?
Is Joe Thomas the greatest LT of the last decade or so? Sure, yeah, I will take a cup of that. Absolutely. However, the big story in his loss seems to be the Browns total lack of vision and preparation for backing up that important position. Have you guys ever read the book "Who Moved My Cheese?" This team is an unbelievable and sad mess. I don't think that there is sufficient wisdom, insight and intelligence to save this organization from having its cheese moved.
It really is sad about Joe, but more sad that the Browns were and are so unprepared.
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