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  • wargograw W One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    W wargograw wrote on last edited by
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    I went with Kessler but I’d like to hear arguments from all sides. Even though I do hate the musical chairs, I think Kessler can get a win, and the fan base needs it as momentum to keep the regime. Long term, that’s a plus. 

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      MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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      I don't think the regime should have to worry about appeasing the fans at this point. I'd rather just find out if Kizer can be the guy. Maybe the best option is Kessler for a few weeks then back to Kizer

      Jim Brown should be serviceable in a 3 back rotation

      Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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        DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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        Get rid of Peppers and our problems are gone.

        "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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          T Tacosman wrote on last edited by
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          I literally could care less which of three start at qb.  They are all terrible, perhaps equally so.  Kizer was a terrible waste of a second round pick.  It just doesn't matter which of the three we throw out there, and we don't need to 'learn' anything about any of them.

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            PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by PoeticG
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            I think that Hogan deserves the chance to redeem himself. The men on the team say they gravitate towards Kevin, that he has the leadership quality. They trust him, one week was not a fair assessment of his abilities. He needs more game reps. He can make the throws we need him to make. He shined in his time as a backup and his first start was a tough AWAY game against a hot team. He should have played this week to be honest but we have to see where his ribs are. I hope the week off allowed him to get ready for this London game, we need him.

            I think Kessler did a good job but when we needed a drive to win the game Kessler folded. You have to keep cool and hit the WR behind the pressure... Kessler still can't do this. I like him though in a backup role. 

            As I see it, Hogan earned the opportunity, too bad it was against a tough team, then his next chance may be another tough team on the road again. Wish he could have got a chance to play at home vs. a weaker defense... but really, he needs to be tested against the best and if he can handle it then we keep getting better.

            Kizer needs to mature a while longer... we felt the need to rush him, he was supposed to sit a year or two. We have Hogan and Kessler, both as capable as Kizer so let the rookie sit awhile and lets get a feel for what we have in the other two. Hogan/Kessler the rest of the year. Start Hogan and let Kessler be the backup, it may turn out better than you expect.  

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              I didn't need to see Kevin Hogan throw one god damn pass in a browns uniform to know he is not a serviceable nfl qb.  I watched him play at stanford and would always think "damn if they had a decent qb they'd be really good".  Never once in my worst dreams did I imagine this bum taking meaningful snaps in an nfl game.  His release is a god damn train wreck that takes longer from start to finish than it does for me to swim the english channel....and I'm a crappy swimmer.  Anyone who needs to see more of Kevin freaking Hogan to know he is not a decent nfl qb has the scouting acumen of a 16 year old girl on meth.  Kevin Hogan doesn't have a single nfl attribute as far as qb's go....kevin hogan is the answer to the question: What is the complete opposite of Aaron Rodgers?  

              Like I said I don't give a crap who the browns throw out there at qb the next 9 games because all the choices are dreadful, but the idea that we need to see more of Kevin Freaking Hogan to know he completely sucks is absurd.

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                Like if just a random guy were to invite kizer, kessler, and hogan to throw the football in their backyard....you would be able to tell that between the three of them kevin hogan sucks.  Bigtime.  I'm positive that random 25 year old former high school qbs who never even considered playing past high school throw a nicer ball than him.....

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                  PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by
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                  Hahaha, "if Stanford had a decent qb they'd be really good" - dude really, you almost made me lol.

                  Stanford had one of the best records in college football history. They won more games behind Hogan than they did behind Andrew Luck. 

                  You are out of your mind... do you even know who Kevin Hogan is? 

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                    PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by
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                    The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-
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                      Hahaha, "if Stanford had a decent qb they'd be really good" - dude really, you almost made me lol.

                      Stanford had one of the best records in college football history. They won more games behind Hogan than they did behind Andrew Luck. 

                      You are out of your mind... do you even know who Kevin Hogan is? 

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                      @poeticg said:

                      Hahaha, "if Stanford had a decent qb they'd be really good" - dude really, you almost made me lol.

                      Stanford had one of the best records in college football history. They won more games behind Hogan than they did behind Andrew Luck. 

                      You are out of your mind... do you even know who Kevin Hogan is? 

                      well no they didn't have "one of the best records in college football history" under hogan.  In fact they went 36-10 over his 3 and a half years.  Solid, but nowhere near "one of the best records in college football history.  They could have been better and perhaps went to a college football playoff had they had a better qb(the NW game to open the year was a great example of this and if they win that game they go to the playoff..hogan almost singlehandedly lost it for them)

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                        gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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                        Hue said it himself.."He hopes to find the guy that does not turn the ball over. Giving team best chance to win games". IMO that's why he's trusting no one but him to call the plays..Hue goes home, looks in the mirror & repeats= "You FO geeks stuck me with these 3 Turds, at least let me try to coach'em"..Right now that's Kessler..I also blame Hue for some piss poor Game Management..But Hue did not lift the lid either while pissing away some real Talent for 2nd hand picks to save his job either..Hue deserves at least to face the music at end of season..53 players in that locker-room have far more say than we do..That Defense can win a few games..The Offensive Talent-Level Side of ball is a absolutely atrocious    

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                          Buster Skrine? I haven’t even heard his name in a year. 

                          I vote Gordon, but seeing as how that’s a pipe dream, I’ll go K’Waun Williams. 

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                          GhoolieG Ghoolie wrote on last edited by
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                          @wargograw said:

                          Buster Skrine? I haven’t even heard his name in a year. 

                          I vote Gordon, but seeing as how that’s a pipe dream, I’ll go K’Waun Williams. 

                          He is having a pretty decent year, dude. 

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                            Like if just a random guy were to invite kizer, kessler, and hogan to throw the football in their backyard....you would be able to tell that between the three of them kevin hogan sucks.  Bigtime.  I'm positive that random 25 year old former high school qbs who never even considered playing past high school throw a nicer ball than him.....

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                            GhoolieG Ghoolie wrote on last edited by
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                            @tacosman said:

                            Like if just a random guy were to invite kizer, kessler, and hogan to throw the football in their backyard....you would be able to tell that between the three of them kevin hogan sucks.  Bigtime.  I'm positive that random 25 year old former high school qbs who never even considered playing past high school throw a nicer ball than him.....

                            Hard to argue your point. Hogan blows maximus.

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                              Hue said it himself.."He hopes to find the guy that does not turn the ball over. Giving team best chance to win games". IMO that's why he's trusting no one but him to call the plays..Hue goes home, looks in the mirror & repeats= "You FO geeks stuck me with these 3 Turds, at least let me try to coach'em"..Right now that's Kessler..I also blame Hue for some piss poor Game Management..But Hue did not lift the lid either while pissing away some real Talent for 2nd hand picks to save his job either..Hue deserves at least to face the music at end of season..53 players in that locker-room have far more say than we do..That Defense can win a few games..The Offensive Talent-Level Side of ball is a absolutely atrocious    

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                              D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by
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                              @gumby73 said:

                              "You FO geeks stuck me with these 3 Turds, at least let me try to coach'em"

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                                gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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                                ^^It's Browns football.. Who knows weather to Laugh or Cry....It was the same crap when Hue basically pulled Crow yesterday. "You geeks want me to show you Crows value but Duke see's holes while Crow bangs into OL butts"..I can see London, I see France, I can also see Crow banging into some more players backs..  9:30AM D-Bone... What time u Up in Cali Time?   

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                                  ^^It's Browns football.. Who knows weather to Laugh or Cry....It was the same crap when Hue basically pulled Crow yesterday. "You geeks want me to show you Crows value but Duke see's holes while Crow bangs into OL butts"..I can see London, I see France, I can also see Crow banging into some more players backs..  9:30AM D-Bone... What time u Up in Cali Time?   

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                                  @gumby73 said:

                                  ^^It's Browns football.. Who knows weather to Laugh or Cry....It was the same crap when Hue basically pulled Crow yesterday. "You geeks want me to show you Crows value but Duke see's holes while Crow bangs into OL butts".. 

                                  I was just imagining Hue talking to himself in the mirror, thanking the FO for the 3 turds in the QB room and that was just funny as heck to me! 

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                                      PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by
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                                      Kevin Hogan is going to light London on fire! I've got my London Broil shirt ready for gametime and it's going to be glorious! 

                                      The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-
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                                        Good thread PoeticG! Everything is pretty even aside from the Gordon landslide. 

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                                          thomam3T thomam3 wrote on last edited by
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                                          Kizer blows!!! Do not put him back in at all this year. If anything Kessler finishes the year as starter and Hogan is the backup. Let Kizer practice squad it up.

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