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  • Tacosman T
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    T Tacosman wrote on last edited by
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    I didn't need to see Kevin Hogan throw one god damn pass in a browns uniform to know he is not a serviceable nfl qb.  I watched him play at stanford and would always think "damn if they had a decent qb they'd be really good".  Never once in my worst dreams did I imagine this bum taking meaningful snaps in an nfl game.  His release is a god damn train wreck that takes longer from start to finish than it does for me to swim the english channel....and I'm a crappy swimmer.  Anyone who needs to see more of Kevin freaking Hogan to know he is not a decent nfl qb has the scouting acumen of a 16 year old girl on meth.  Kevin Hogan doesn't have a single nfl attribute as far as qb's go....kevin hogan is the answer to the question: What is the complete opposite of Aaron Rodgers?  

    Like I said I don't give a crap who the browns throw out there at qb the next 9 games because all the choices are dreadful, but the idea that we need to see more of Kevin Freaking Hogan to know he completely sucks is absurd.

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      Like if just a random guy were to invite kizer, kessler, and hogan to throw the football in their backyard....you would be able to tell that between the three of them kevin hogan sucks.  Bigtime.  I'm positive that random 25 year old former high school qbs who never even considered playing past high school throw a nicer ball than him.....

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        PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by
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        Hahaha, "if Stanford had a decent qb they'd be really good" - dude really, you almost made me lol.

        Stanford had one of the best records in college football history. They won more games behind Hogan than they did behind Andrew Luck. 

        You are out of your mind... do you even know who Kevin Hogan is? 

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          The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-
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            Hahaha, "if Stanford had a decent qb they'd be really good" - dude really, you almost made me lol.

            Stanford had one of the best records in college football history. They won more games behind Hogan than they did behind Andrew Luck. 

            You are out of your mind... do you even know who Kevin Hogan is? 

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            @poeticg said:

            Hahaha, "if Stanford had a decent qb they'd be really good" - dude really, you almost made me lol.

            Stanford had one of the best records in college football history. They won more games behind Hogan than they did behind Andrew Luck. 

            You are out of your mind... do you even know who Kevin Hogan is? 

            well no they didn't have "one of the best records in college football history" under hogan.  In fact they went 36-10 over his 3 and a half years.  Solid, but nowhere near "one of the best records in college football history.  They could have been better and perhaps went to a college football playoff had they had a better qb(the NW game to open the year was a great example of this and if they win that game they go to the playoff..hogan almost singlehandedly lost it for them)

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              gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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              Hue said it himself.."He hopes to find the guy that does not turn the ball over. Giving team best chance to win games". IMO that's why he's trusting no one but him to call the plays..Hue goes home, looks in the mirror & repeats= "You FO geeks stuck me with these 3 Turds, at least let me try to coach'em"..Right now that's Kessler..I also blame Hue for some piss poor Game Management..But Hue did not lift the lid either while pissing away some real Talent for 2nd hand picks to save his job either..Hue deserves at least to face the music at end of season..53 players in that locker-room have far more say than we do..That Defense can win a few games..The Offensive Talent-Level Side of ball is a absolutely atrocious    

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                Buster Skrine? I haven’t even heard his name in a year. 

                I vote Gordon, but seeing as how that’s a pipe dream, I’ll go K’Waun Williams. 

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                @wargograw said:

                Buster Skrine? I haven’t even heard his name in a year. 

                I vote Gordon, but seeing as how that’s a pipe dream, I’ll go K’Waun Williams. 

                He is having a pretty decent year, dude. 

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                  Like if just a random guy were to invite kizer, kessler, and hogan to throw the football in their backyard....you would be able to tell that between the three of them kevin hogan sucks.  Bigtime.  I'm positive that random 25 year old former high school qbs who never even considered playing past high school throw a nicer ball than him.....

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                  GhoolieG Ghoolie wrote on last edited by
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                  @tacosman said:

                  Like if just a random guy were to invite kizer, kessler, and hogan to throw the football in their backyard....you would be able to tell that between the three of them kevin hogan sucks.  Bigtime.  I'm positive that random 25 year old former high school qbs who never even considered playing past high school throw a nicer ball than him.....

                  Hard to argue your point. Hogan blows maximus.

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                    Hue said it himself.."He hopes to find the guy that does not turn the ball over. Giving team best chance to win games". IMO that's why he's trusting no one but him to call the plays..Hue goes home, looks in the mirror & repeats= "You FO geeks stuck me with these 3 Turds, at least let me try to coach'em"..Right now that's Kessler..I also blame Hue for some piss poor Game Management..But Hue did not lift the lid either while pissing away some real Talent for 2nd hand picks to save his job either..Hue deserves at least to face the music at end of season..53 players in that locker-room have far more say than we do..That Defense can win a few games..The Offensive Talent-Level Side of ball is a absolutely atrocious    

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                    @gumby73 said:

                    "You FO geeks stuck me with these 3 Turds, at least let me try to coach'em"

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                      gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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                      ^^It's Browns football.. Who knows weather to Laugh or Cry....It was the same crap when Hue basically pulled Crow yesterday. "You geeks want me to show you Crows value but Duke see's holes while Crow bangs into OL butts"..I can see London, I see France, I can also see Crow banging into some more players backs..  9:30AM D-Bone... What time u Up in Cali Time?   

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                        ^^It's Browns football.. Who knows weather to Laugh or Cry....It was the same crap when Hue basically pulled Crow yesterday. "You geeks want me to show you Crows value but Duke see's holes while Crow bangs into OL butts"..I can see London, I see France, I can also see Crow banging into some more players backs..  9:30AM D-Bone... What time u Up in Cali Time?   

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                        @gumby73 said:

                        ^^It's Browns football.. Who knows weather to Laugh or Cry....It was the same crap when Hue basically pulled Crow yesterday. "You geeks want me to show you Crows value but Duke see's holes while Crow bangs into OL butts".. 

                        I was just imagining Hue talking to himself in the mirror, thanking the FO for the 3 turds in the QB room and that was just funny as heck to me! 

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                          Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                            PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by
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                            Kevin Hogan is going to light London on fire! I've got my London Broil shirt ready for gametime and it's going to be glorious! 

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                              Good thread PoeticG! Everything is pretty even aside from the Gordon landslide. 

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                                thomam3T thomam3 wrote on last edited by
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                                Kizer blows!!! Do not put him back in at all this year. If anything Kessler finishes the year as starter and Hogan is the backup. Let Kizer practice squad it up.

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                                  Watch this motherShmucking video you Hogan haters and tell me that you don't want him leading this YOUNG team. For the youngest team in the league Hogan is just what they need. Most of these guys are fresh out of college. Give them a tremendous college football player/leader in Hogan and watch these young guys thrive.

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                                    Kevin Hogan will be lucky to get a full season's worth of NFL starts for his entire career.

                                    Write it down, chisel it into granite, spray paint on the Superior Bridge.

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                                      thomam3T thomam3 wrote on last edited by
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                                      Yeah I don't get the Hogan hate. It's odd to me. It's only fair to start Kessler but I would also like to see Hogan get another shot. Kizer....... no more shots. Maybe next year he can have one. He sucks. Check the stats. I don't care how big or strong his arm is. HE SUCKS AND IT HAS BEEN PROVEN IN HIS 6 STARTS.

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                                        jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on last edited by
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                                        I don't think this question is easy to answer now that Joe is gone. If Joe is playing, then I say Kessler should definitely start. But since he's not playing, it would be a VERY long day for Kessler in the pocket. You remember how bad it was for Kessler last year when Joe WAS playing? Teams will simply blitz the crap out of us, and Kessler will go down with another concussion. Just look at overtime Sunday. Now granted, not every team will have Orakpo, but we literally couldn't get A YARD in overtime. We couldn't even snap the ball without getting our butts blown apart. What do you think is going to happen this week? Receivers won't get open, Cody won't have time, and he'll just fall down in a crumpled mass whenever someone breaths on him. For crying out loud, Cody got sacked when a defender grabbed his foot. He's GOT to break out of that. 

                                        Oddly enough, Kessler had some decent numbers against the blitz. But I think this is slightly skewed because teams basically blitzed him EVERY down. Blitz, blitz, blitz. But now there's no Pryor to throw to. No down the field match up to win. No safety outlet (Reminds me of the Justice League trailer. "There are no Lanterns. No Protectors. No Kryptonium. This quarterback will fall...like all the others.") 

                                        Anyways, I think I want Kessler to start, but I also remember how I thought Hogan could come in and provide a semi stable presence and move the ball without making terrible decisions. So that's what I'm afraid of now. We bench Kizer (again) and Cody comes in and stinks up the joint, then I guess we go BACK to Kizer? I mean...that doesn't sound particularly awesome. 

                                        The one thing I can tell you is that Kessler is accurate. Yes he threw a bad ball that got picked, but he was trying to make a damn play. Heck, Cody's best throw while under pressure was dropped by Britt and it wasn't close to being caught. Would've been a huge gainer too. Maybe Kessler can get the ball to Duke consistently. Use the middle of the field a bit more. We also need to get the ball to Higgins more. He's made a couple catches this year and gotten extra yards by making nice moves after the catch. I want more of that. Of course, Kizer missed Higgins by 10 feet for what should've been the play of the game, but I digress. 

                                        Start Kessler. 

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                                          Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                          1. Kizer
                                          2. Gordon
                                          3. Brown

                                          What's the trifecta paying?

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