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  • @browns52 said:

    boy, how is that working out for you...our ol...eh, did we not spend billions on a new ol.....coupled with crowell and his usual 17 carries for 53 yds, they suck....oh yeah, and by the way, how is kenny britt working out...i told gumball 73  what was going to happen there as he was pumping his boy....

    First, Am Gumby73 Damn it..Next. WTF post are you boy'ing me about? Re-post it right here & I'll wait..........Mean while not a damn sole has posted how sorry this OL has played till I posted in JT Topic..What ya got? Win or lose am logged in everyday..What I remember is Browns52 only post to bitch & whine..Bring it Homie  

    @gumby73 said:

    First, Am Gumby73 Damn it. 

    LOL.    

    @wargograw said:

    Amen! Guys just want their pound of flesh without actually thinking it through. 

    Read the latter part my post (4 posts up).

  • @gumby73 said:

    First, Am Gumby73 Damn it. 

    LOL.    

    @wargograw said:

    Amen! Guys just want their pound of flesh without actually thinking it through. 

    Read the latter part my post (4 posts up).

    @orion said:

    LOL.    

    Read the latter part my post (4 posts up).

    Ooh. Guy made a mistake. Stop traffic!

  • @orion said:

    LOL.    

    Read the latter part my post (4 posts up).

    Ooh. Guy made a mistake. Stop traffic!

    @wargograw said:

    Ooh. Guy made a mistake. Stop traffic!

    No, not 'a' mistake.  He makes friggin' tons of 'em.  His clock management, the play calls he makes when we get near the goal line... - I don't have 'em all committed to memory, but it's a ton.  I don't like him as my game day coach.  

    I don't want to change coaches either.  We do that waay too much.  Ya can't get anything built that way.  It's constantly being torn down.  But I don't like the dumb decisions that he makes during games.  And it's not like he's magically NOT gonna make any more dumb decisions.  It's not like he's twelve years old and he's just learning the game of football.  

    I didn't like Pettine's game day calls either.  The guy tried a 60 yard field goal with Devin Hester waiting at the goal line to return it.  TWICE.  The FIRST time the dumbass Atlanta coach called TO to ice our kicker so Pettine watched Hester catch the ball in the end zone.  So Pettine, being unable to learn, did it again and Hester ALMOST took it to the house (thanks to Joel Bitonio who hit Hester when he zigged around the 20).  -  Mind you, a FG is NOT like a punt.  There are no 'gunners'.  

    I don't like stupid game day coaches.  

  • @domcucch1994 said:

    Hue gets at least another season to show improvement IF he can squeak out 2-3 wins this season..

    Anything less and we will have yet another mediocre HC with no coaching experience...

    Is Rob Chudzinski looking for another shot at being a head coach again? 

    More than one of us here thought Haslam canned Chud too soon, the guy bled brown & orange. Fit Ghooile's profile of an up and comer. Now Jimmy is between a rock and a hard place, stick with the plan, (because of past hair trigger reactions) or keep a coach that is showing signs of being the worst HC in Browns history. 

    This is getting so bad, it's starting to make me look with fondness on the days of old Pat Shure-loss.   

    @hoorta said:

    More than one of us here thought Haslam canned Chud too soon, the guy bled brown & orange. Fit Ghooile's profile of an up and comer. Now Jimmy is between a rock and a hard place, stick with the plan, (because of past hair trigger reactions) or keep a coach that is showing signs of being the worst HC in Browns history. 

    This is getting so bad, it's starting to make me look with fondness on the days of old Pat Shure-loss.   

    Liked Chud

  • I'm watching Wentz again. Whoever is responsible for not drafting him is fired. If Hue was part of that decision, pack your bags, a-hole. Wentz has the look of a championship qb. We have Kessler and Kizer. Everyone associated with those picks, or failing to draft Wentz and Watson, needs to be fired. The ONE POSITION we've needed for going on two decades is a QB. Obviously the people we have directing our franchise can't evaluate that particular position. Hey Sashi...bang up job so far buddy. Think he's a top 20 qb NOW, A-HOLE? Good riddance you jerk. 

  • I'm watching Wentz again. Whoever is responsible for not drafting him is fired. If Hue was part of that decision, pack your bags, a-hole. Wentz has the look of a championship qb. We have Kessler and Kizer. Everyone associated with those picks, or failing to draft Wentz and Watson, needs to be fired. The ONE POSITION we've needed for going on two decades is a QB. Obviously the people we have directing our franchise can't evaluate that particular position. Hey Sashi...bang up job so far buddy. Think he's a top 20 qb NOW, A-HOLE? Good riddance you jerk. 

    @jiggins7919 said:

    I'm watching Wentz again. Whoever is responsible for not drafting him is fired. If Hue was part of that decision, pack your bags, a-hole. Wentz has the look of a championship qb. We have Kessler and Kizer. Everyone associated with those picks, or failing to draft Wentz and Watson, needs to be fired. The ONE POSITION we've needed for going on two decades is a QB. Obviously the people we have directing our franchise can't evaluate that particular position. Hey Sashi...bang up job so far buddy. Think he's a top 20 qb NOW, A-HOLE? Good riddance you jerk. 

    You haven't been paying attention......................we are amassing assets. We are stock-piling draft picks and packing our team with youth we can always get a QB and just plug him into this well-oiled machine we have built.

    Also, don't you know, the draft classes of the last few years just didn't have any QB worth taking in a high position. These guys were just not right for our style. We're gonna get em next year. Remember, we have the best OL in the league and that is what is most important.

  • a wide reciever who keeps breaking his hand, an unheard of tight end with a funny last  name, and a defensive player without a position is much preferable to this wentz dude.

  • @nickers said:

    I thought Kessler did pretty well despite the pick.. He looks the most QB worthy of the lot

    Yup.

    And the pick...he threw that long ball into 3 defenders....but WAIT....what else could he have done?  If he DOESN'T throw the ball long when Hue tells him to then he gets benched.  He's much better off throwing the long INT than not.   -  That's what we've learned.

    @clevfan4life said:

    Here we go with people now screamin we shoulda neva let that chudzinski boy go, he was a good boy he was. 

    <barf>

    I was pissed when Jimmah fired them.  We had Norv Turner as an OC.  We had NO friggin' RB's (gimpy Willis MaGahee).  The coaches were all told to 'be patient' about the roster for this year...but what happened?  They all got fired.  Pure impatience.

    Shmuck me. Just keep hue. Let him grow as a coach here.

    Grow as a coach?!  The man makes some of the lousiest in game decisions.  Who in their right mind declines a 15 yard penalty to bring up 4th and 1 in that situation?  The friggin' GROUNDS KEEPER knows better than that...no?  -  All anyone had to see of Hue's ineptness at gameday decisions was the final two minutes of the first half of our first game against the Bengals in 2016.  Totally, 100% mind boggling.

    As I said earlier, Hue is the OC.  Ya can't fire him right now anyhow.  We've got to play out the season.

    @orion said:

    Grow as a coach?!  The man makes some of the lousiest in game decisions.  Who in their right mind declines a 15 yard penalty to bring up 4th and 1 in that situation?  The friggin' GROUNDS KEEPER knows better than that...no?

    As I said earlier, Hue is the OC.  Ya can't fire him right now anyhow.  We've got to play out the season.

    So right move, but wrong time... mmmkay...

    But let's look at this awful decision you and others are criticizing...

    • 1st Quarter
    1. Tennessee Titans at 15:00
    2. 5-Z.Gonzalez kicks 65 yards from CLE 35 to end zone, Touchback. PENALTY on CLE-24-I.Campbell, Offside on Free Kick, 5 yards, enforced at TEN 25.
    3. 1-10-TEN 30 (15:00) (Shotgun) 8-M.Mariota pass short middle to 18-R.Matthews to TEN 48 for 18 yards (24-I.Campbell).
    4. 1-10-TEN 48 (14:26) 29-D.Murray left guard to CLE 43 for 9 yards (26-D.Kindred).
    5. 2-1-CLE 43 (13:46) 29-D.Murray right tackle to CLE 43 for no gain (55-D.Shelton; 51-J.Collins).
    6. 3-1-CLE 43 (13:00) 22-D.Henry left tackle to CLE 41 for 2 yards (58-C.Kirksey; 95-M.Garrett).
    7. 1-10-CLE 41 (12:24) 29-D.Murray right guard to CLE 33 for 8 yards (90-E.Ogbah).
    8. 2-2-CLE 33 (11:50) (Shotgun) 8-M.Mariota pass short middle to 82-D.Walker to CLE 32 for 1 yard (95-M.Garrett). Shuffle Pass
    9. 3-1-CLE 32 (11:11) (Shotgun) 8-M.Mariota pass incomplete deep left to 81-J.Smith. Penalty on TEN-77-T.Lewan, Face Mask (15 Yards), declined.
    10. 4-1-CLE 32 (11:03) 22-D.Henry right guard to CLE 32 for no gain (53-J.Schobert). PENALTY on CLE-55-D.Shelton, Defensive Offside, 5 yards, enforced at CLE 32 - No Play.
    11. 1-10-CLE 27 (10:50) 29-D.Murray left end to CLE 25 for 2 yards (58-C.Kirksey).
    12. 2-8-CLE 25 (10:09) (Shotgun) 22-D.Henry right end to CLE 30 for -5 yards (58-C.Kirksey).
    13. 3-13-CLE 30 (9:25) (Shotgun) 8-M.Mariota pass short middle to 13-T.Taylor to CLE 25 for 5 yards (53-J.Schobert).
    14. 4-8-CLE 25 (8:42) 4-R.Succop 43 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-48-B.Brinkley, Holder-6-B.Kern.
    15. TEN 3    CLE 0    Plays: 11    Possession: 6:22

    So in summary:

    • TN has moved 37 yards in 9 plays to open the game and end up with 4th and 1 in position for a 49-yd FG by the league's leading Kicker.
    • The TN HC eschews the FG attempt and instead runs his big back up the gut for no gain... our ball on downs... except...
    • Our defender who is over the ball jumped offsides giving TN a new set of downs.
    • With that new set of downs TN manages to gain a mere 5 yds and end up kicking a 43-yd FG... which would have been good from 49.

    Or in Super-summary: Hue's horrendous, infantile, stupid decision carried absolutely no cost to his team.

    What am I missing here?

    @orion said:

    I don't like stupid game day coaches.  

    As opposed to say.... stupid MMQBs?

    Look I can't defend every decision, play call, challenge or time out Hue has made, but folks, including you, are being hypercritical here. And be it out of frustration or whatever... it's not right. It just isn't...

  • a wide reciever who keeps breaking his hand, an unheard of tight end with a funny last  name, and a defensive player without a position is much preferable to this wentz dude.

    @tacosman said:

    a wide reciever who keeps breaking his hand, an unheard of tight end with a funny last  name, and a defensive player without a position is much preferable to this wentz dude.

    Hoping this is sarcasm otherwise agreeing with you is getting to be a habit. Please say something stupid soon so we can get back to normal. Thanks in advance...

    I watched Wentz last nite... and I have to give him his props for what he does have going for him: Strength, calm, touch... actually reminded me of a young, Big Ben... but...

    He locks onto one receiver from the snap on every play except when he is pressured in or out of the pocket. His TD pass to Coleman(?) on the play he brought from NDSU with him was the only time I saw him go to other than his first choice. Great throw under significant pressure, but only example of him coming off his first look that I can recall.

    Against man coverage given time he simply waits for his receiver to beat his coverage... sometimes waiting all the way into a sack as we saw early. Now given the way his receiving cosps is rounding into form, this is not the worst plan in the world, but it's still not the stuff Elite QB play is made of... nor franchise...

    Really want to see him go against a tough zone team... where CBs and S's can flow to the receiver to whom they see him first cast his eyes. Looks to be what KC did to him in their Week 2 win on at least one of the two WRs in half-man/half-zone looks. Looked to go man on the slot(s). The Chiefs also doubled Ertz... a lot.

    Looking down the road PHI vs. DNV and SEA tests are looming.

    The kid may yet be great, but I'm not anointing him yet...

  • where's tressel when you need him?

    @miktoxic said:

    where's tressel when you need him?

    Tressel now has more important things to do with his life than to worry about football.  Its true.  He is the President of Youngstown St. now.....and his concerns are far from football.  At best he is now just a fan.

  • @miktoxic said:

    where's tressel when you need him?

    Tressel now has more important things to do with his life than to worry about football.  Its true.  He is the President of Youngstown St. now.....and his concerns are far from football.  At best he is now just a fan.

    @the-gipper said:

    Tressel now has more important things to do with his life than to worry about football.  Its true.  He is the President of Youngstown St. now.

    Very nearly an accredited college so I hear!

    WSS

  • Youngstown state?  What is that, a State Prison?  Who would live in that Sheet hole?

  • Youngstown state?  What is that, a State Prison?  Who would live in that Sheet hole?

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Youngstown state?  What is that, a State Prison?  Who would live in that Sheet hole?

    A step up for anyone from Parma.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Tressel now has more important things to do with his life than to worry about football.  Its true.  He is the President of Youngstown St. now.

    Very nearly an accredited college so I hear!

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Very nearly an accredited college so I hear!

    WSS

  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Youngstown state?  What is that, a State Prison?  Who would live in that Sheet hole?

    A step up for anyone from Parma.

    @the-gipper said:

    A step up for anyone from Parma.

    Not quite dickweed.  Youngstown is a ghetto.

  • And Barberton is the bottom of the barrel, lmao.

  • Oh look, DieHard pretending to be tough again on the Interwebs. How sad.

  • a wide reciever who keeps breaking his hand, an unheard of tight end with a funny last  name, and a defensive player without a position is much preferable to this wentz dude.

    @tacosman said:

    a wide reciever who keeps breaking his hand, an unheard of tight end with a funny last  name, and a defensive player without a position is much preferable to this wentz dude.

    Watch it man, they are going to accuse you of being me.