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***Official Browns Vs. Vikings In London, England, UK, Game Night Thread***

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  • @tiamat63 said:

    I think they were calling it before the ball was even thrown.  

    If it's before the throw that's one thing. But to call PI they have to consider if the pass was uncatchable, that's their job. I know you're probably not disagreeing but the inconsistentcy has been awful.

    @tacosman said:

    bad PI call, but good no call on ours.  The ball wasnt quite in the air yet and was within 5 yards from LOS and there was no holding/grabbing

    So impeding a guys route by literally running into him with arms extended isn't a penalty? Guess I've been learning football different than you.

    @jrb12711 said:

    So impeding a guys route by literally running into him with arms extended isn't a penalty? Guess I've been learning football different than you.

    if it's short of 5 yards from the LOS and it's not a hold/grab/tug whatever and the ball isn't in the air, no it's not a penalty.  You can make a contact with a reciever like that.  The rules are very clear on that.  

  • Oh no, Browns D trying to deal with a 3rd and long...

    Big catch for Vikings...

    Personal foul, roughing the passer.

  • @jrb12711 said:

    So impeding a guys route by literally running into him with arms extended isn't a penalty? Guess I've been learning football different than you.

    if it's short of 5 yards from the LOS and it's not a hold/grab/tug whatever and the ball isn't in the air, no it's not a penalty.  You can make a contact with a reciever like that.  The rules are very clear on that.  

    @tacosman said:

    if it's short of 5 yards from the LOS and it's not a hold/grab/tug whatever and the ball isn't in the air, no it's not a penalty.  You can make a contact with a reciever like that.  The rules are very clear on that.  

    Unless the ball is thrown to said receiver and the contact impedes his ability to catch the ball. The rules are even more clear on that.

  • 31 white guys, most all sitting at home now playing play station who would be willing to work for nfl min and are certainly better than zane, and wtf is our front office doing??

    @tacosman said:

    31 white guys, most all sitting at home now playing play station who would be willing to work for nfl min and are certainly better than zane, and wtf is our front office doing??

    What's white got to do with it? You must be a minority cuz me saying something like that I'd get labeled racist.

  • god thats an awful play by taylor.....no need at all.  45 or whatever yard penalty

  • Next throw, Browns' Taylor called for pass interference.

    Yeah, Vikes are gonna score again real fast.

  • Two flags on the red zone pass by the Vikings...

    Holding, automatic first down.

  • Refs are taking over

  • Vikings TD.

  • Shmuck the Browns 0-8, 1-23

  • @tacosman said:

    if it's short of 5 yards from the LOS and it's not a hold/grab/tug whatever and the ball isn't in the air, no it's not a penalty.  You can make a contact with a reciever like that.  The rules are very clear on that.  

    Unless the ball is thrown to said receiver and the contact impedes his ability to catch the ball. The rules are even more clear on that.

    @jrb12711 said:

    Unless the ball is thrown to said receiver and the contact impedes his ability to catch the ball. The rules are even more clear on that.

    *if* the ball is in the air. It wasn't.  you are making rules up.  It cant be pass interference because the ball wasnt thrown yet.  Thats where you 'impedes' argument comes in.  You can't call PI on a ball that hasnt been thrown.  And it cant be illegal contact(what I guess you are arguing for) because the contact was within 5 yards.   And it can't be defensive holding because there was no hold.  Please show me this rule about 'impedes ability to catch the ball' before the ball is thrown because it doesnt exist and thats why you can't cite it.

  • This is far from over, The Viks are going to get 2 more touchdowns, The refs will be sure of it

  • We're 0 - 8 because of Haslam, not the refs.

  • Njoku stinks, thank god he has good measureables

    @baconhound said:

    Njoku stinks, thank god he has good measureables

    He stinks because the defender got his hands between him and the ball?  Wow!

  • Who thought he was better than Parky or whatever his name was?

    @medicineman said:

    Who thought he was better than Parky or whatever his name was?

    You mean Cody Parkey, kicking for the Fins?

    Yeah, he’s currently 8 out 9 on FG’s on the year.

  • @jrb12711 said:

    Unless the ball is thrown to said receiver and the contact impedes his ability to catch the ball. The rules are even more clear on that.

    *if* the ball is in the air. It wasn't.  you are making rules up.  It cant be pass interference because the ball wasnt thrown yet.  Thats where you 'impedes' argument comes in.  You can't call PI on a ball that hasnt been thrown.  And it cant be illegal contact(what I guess you are arguing for) because the contact was within 5 yards.   And it can't be defensive holding because there was no hold.  Please show me this rule about 'impedes ability to catch the ball' before the ball is thrown because it doesnt exist and thats why you can't cite it.

    @tacosman said:

    *if* the ball is in the air. It wasn't.  you are making rules up.  It cant be pass interference because the ball wasnt thrown yet.  Thats where you 'impedes' argument comes in.  You can't call PI on a ball that hasnt been thrown.  And it cant be illegal contact(what I guess you are arguing for) because the contact was within 5 yards.   And it can't be defensive holding because there was no hold.  Please show me this rule about 'impedes ability to catch the ball' before the ball is thrown because it doesnt exist and thats why you can't cite it.

    The ball was literally going over the head of the guys when we ran into him. Are you watching the game? Trent green said that was a missed call, because it was.

    Here you go: http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/passinterference go ahead and take time to read it. Or do you need more citation 

  • @jrb12711 said:

    Unless the ball is thrown to said receiver and the contact impedes his ability to catch the ball. The rules are even more clear on that.

    *if* the ball is in the air. It wasn't.  you are making rules up.  It cant be pass interference because the ball wasnt thrown yet.  Thats where you 'impedes' argument comes in.  You can't call PI on a ball that hasnt been thrown.  And it cant be illegal contact(what I guess you are arguing for) because the contact was within 5 yards.   And it can't be defensive holding because there was no hold.  Please show me this rule about 'impedes ability to catch the ball' before the ball is thrown because it doesnt exist and thats why you can't cite it.

    @tacosman said:

    *if* the ball is in the air. It wasn't.  you are making rules up.  It cant be pass interference because the ball wasnt thrown yet.  Thats where you 'impedes' argument comes in.  You can't call PI on a ball that hasnt been thrown.  And it cant be illegal contact(what I guess you are arguing for) because the contact was within 5 yards.   And it can't be defensive holding because there was no hold.  Please show me this rule about 'impedes ability to catch the ball' before the ball is thrown because it doesnt exist and thats why you can't cite it.

    It really is a moot point since Treggs of Society was wide open and Kizer didn't see it and if he did they would've called the obvious pick Devalve set

  • So... what? 33-19 final score? 40-23?

    Or the Browns make it close?

  • I swear the refs love to make it harder for us and to kick us when we are down. PI on like what 3 or 4 plays now, then a roughing the passer? Give me a break When will they start giving us calls? They never call PI  when it happens on us,

  • @baconhound said:

    Njoku stinks, thank god he has good measureables

    He stinks because the defender got his hands between him and the ball?  Wow!

    @dawg2fan said:

    He stinks because the defender got his hands between him and the ball?  Wow!

    No he stinks because he is a first round project who doesn't win 50/50 battles or make routine catches.