***Official Browns Vs. Vikings In London, England, UK, Game Night Thread***

flyingfooldoug

We're 0 - 8 because of Haslam, not the refs.

dawg2fan

@baconhound said:

Njoku stinks, thank god he has good measureables

He stinks because the defender got his hands between him and the ball? Wow!

Canton Dawg

@medicineman said:

Who thought he was better than Parky or whatever his name was?

You mean Cody Parkey, kicking for the Fins?

Yeah, he’s currently 8 out 9 on FG’s on the year.

jrb12711

@tacosman said:

*if* the ball is in the air. It wasn't. you are making rules up. It cant be pass interference because the ball wasnt thrown yet. Thats where you 'impedes' argument comes in. You can't call PI on a ball that hasnt been thrown. And it cant be illegal contact(what I guess you are arguing for) because the contact was within 5 yards. And it can't be defensive holding because there was no hold. Please show me this rule about 'impedes ability to catch the ball' before the ball is thrown because it doesnt exist and thats why you can't cite it.

The ball was literally going over the head of the guys when we ran into him. Are you watching the game? Trent green said that was a missed call, because it was.

Here you go: http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/passinterference go ahead and take time to read it. Or do you need more citation

BaconHound

@tacosman said:

*if* the ball is in the air. It wasn't. you are making rules up. It cant be pass interference because the ball wasnt thrown yet. Thats where you 'impedes' argument comes in. You can't call PI on a ball that hasnt been thrown. And it cant be illegal contact(what I guess you are arguing for) because the contact was within 5 yards. And it can't be defensive holding because there was no hold. Please show me this rule about 'impedes ability to catch the ball' before the ball is thrown because it doesnt exist and thats why you can't cite it.

It really is a moot point since Treggs of Society was wide open and Kizer didn't see it and if he did they would've called the obvious pick Devalve set

tinythinker

So... what? 33-19 final score? 40-23?

Or the Browns make it close?

medicineman

I swear the refs love to make it harder for us and to kick us when we are down. PI on like what 3 or 4 plays now, then a roughing the passer? Give me a break When will they start giving us calls? They never call PI when it happens on us,

BaconHound

@dawg2fan said:

He stinks because the defender got his hands between him and the ball? Wow!

No he stinks because he is a first round project who doesn't win 50/50 battles or make routine catches.

medicineman

@canton-dawg said:

You mean Cody Parkey, kicking for the Fins?

Yeah, he’s currently 8 out 9 on FG’s on the year.

And he is better than what we have. We had him but kept a kicker who can't kick

Browns1216

now we see what the Browns are made of, plenty of time on the clock to get 2 TDs for any decent NFL team. Why does scoring 2 TDs seem so insurmountable for the Browns?

medicineman

Here comes another Vik td

CaineDeSoulis

we were winning i finally turned the game on

tinythinker

Well...hmm... nice punt?

dawg2fan

@canton-dawg said:

You mean Cody Parkey, kicking for the Fins?

Yeah, he’s currently 8 out 9 on FG’s on the year.

Which is precisely what I was saying in another thread when talking about Gonzales. We need to give him time. He's a rookie.

medicineman

Most teams seem to come together more when the season goes by, Not us, we get worse. Does Sashi not see we don't have a deep threat wide out? Or a kicker? a RB who just loves to miss the hole and fumble and miss pitches, We are the joke of the NFL and now London sees it first hand

dawg2fan

@baconhound said:

No he stinks because he is a first round project who doesn't win 50/50 battles or make routine catches.

Disagree. The defender just had a great play. Njoku will win the majority of those plays.

medicineman

@dawg2fan said:

Which is precisely what I was saying in another thread when talking about Gonzales. We need to give him time. He's a rookie.

We have to give a kicker more time? He has 1 job to do, Kicking is his job, If you are a kicker, you have it or you don't, and he does not have it.

Canton Dawg

@dawg2fan said:

Which is precisely what I was saying in another thread when talking about Gonzales. We need to give him time. He's a rookie.

Time?? Kickers are a dime a dozen.

We obviously got rid of the wrong guy...again.

Tacosman

@jrb12711 said:

The ball was literally going over the head of the guys when we ran into him. Are you watching the game? Trent green said that was a missed call, because it was.

Here you go: http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/passinterference go ahead and take time to read it. Or do you need more citation

lmao... Now we are 4 posts in and you are shifting the goal posts. Your first three posts didnt argue with my point about how the ball was not in the air and instead your argument was that "you can't impede the contact blah blah". I pointed out that, yes, you can in fact impede contact within 5 yards if the ball is not in the air and it's not holding. You just doubled down on the 'impede contact' part and didn't argue with the ball not being in the air.

Now I guess you actually took the time and read the rules and realized that, yes I was right and you can 'impede' the reciever under certain circumstances.

*IF* the ball was in the air it is a penalty. I dont think it was. If you do fine. But In that case there is nothing to discuss because there is no disagreement on the rule. But that wasnt our argument at first because if it was you would have initially disagreed with me about the ball not being in the air....not waiting until this point in the argument when you now realize I was right about the rule.

medicineman

It should not matter if a kicker is a rookie or not, Kicking does not change from NCAA to Pro. I am over Zane, he needs to go