Hue Jackson: 'I totally have the support' of the Haslams despite 0-8

[Unsympathetic]

@flyingfooldoug said:

I never did like non football people calling the shots

What shots, exactly?

Not re-signing Pryor was GOOD.  Britt was viewed as a solid but unspectacular signing this past season.

Not re-signing Mitch was GOOD.  [Shon Jackson > schwartz in the total of run+pass]

Signing OL's this offseason that don't get our QB Luck'd was GOOD.

Getting the extra second while kicking the tires of Ostrich was GOOD -- in fact, it was so good it was[is still] viewed as a revolutionary outside-the-box "first".

There is no silver bullet to fixing the problems on the Browns team.. and not even one or two players from the OSU defense will "fix" it.

[For our out-of-state board members, the OSU defense is nicknamed "the silver bullets"]

First question: What, precisely, is your desired goal?  If your actual objective is on-field success then you need to look at a much more granular level to define that "success."

Is it "stopping the run?" If so then Cleveland is leading the league at 2.9 YPA. Couldn't say that last year - or any year of any previous organization.

Is it "stopping the pass"? Here we're 24th in YPA.. To nobody's surprise, this could be improved

Is it "yards per rush attempted?" If so then Cleveland defines the league average at 4.1 -- this may not be success but it's not failure.

Is it "total yards passing" ? Cleveland is 19th  -- sure, improve this, and it shocks nobody that NE is #1 in only this team stat.

Is it "Yards per passing attempt" ? Here we're in the bottom quartile at 30th.

So, it seems the areas we need to work on are pass D and pass O.  That's much more precise than "EVERYONE GO DIE IN A FIRE NOW KTHXBAI"

[Canton Dawg]

@unsympathetic said:

What shots, exactly?

Not re-signing Pryor was GOOD.  Britt was viewed as a solid but unspectacular signing this past season.

Not re-signing Mitch was GOOD.  [Shon Jackson > schwartz in the total of run+pass]

Signing OL's this offseason that don't get our QB Luck'd was GOOD.

Getting the extra second while kicking the tires of Ostrich was GOOD -- in fact, it was so good it was[is still] viewed as a revolutionary outside-the-box "first".

There is no silver bullet to fixing the problems on the Browns team.. and not even one or two players from the OSU defense will "fix" it.

[For our out-of-state board members, the OSU defense is nicknamed "the silver bullets"]

First question: What, precisely, is your desired goal?  If your actual objective is on-field success then you need to look at a much more granular level to define that "success."

Is it "stopping the run?" If so then Cleveland is leading the league at 2.9 YPA. Couldn't say that last year - or any year of any previous organization.

Is it "stopping the pass"? Here we're 24th in YPA.. To nobody's surprise, this could be improved

Is it "yards per rush attempted?" If so then Cleveland defines the league average at 4.1 -- this may not be success but it's not failure.

Is it "total yards passing" ? Cleveland is 19th  -- sure, improve this, and it shocks nobody that NE is #1 in only this team stat.

Is it "Yards per passing attempt" ? Here we're in the bottom quartile at 30th.

So, it seems the areas we need to work on are pass D and pass O.  That's much more precise than "EVERYONE GO DIE IN A FIRE NOW KTHXBAI"

Here's the only stat that matters. . .1-23.

[flyingfooldoug]

@unsympathetic said:

What shots, exactly?

Not re-signing Pryor was GOOD.  Britt was viewed as a solid but unspectacular signing this past season.

Not re-signing Mitch was GOOD.  [Shon Jackson > schwartz in the total of run+pass]

Signing OL's this offseason that don't get our QB Luck'd was GOOD.

Getting the extra second while kicking the tires of Ostrich was GOOD -- in fact, it was so good it was[is still] viewed as a revolutionary outside-the-box "first".

There is no silver bullet to fixing the problems on the Browns team.. and not even one or two players from the OSU defense will "fix" it.

[For our out-of-state board members, the OSU defense is nicknamed "the silver bullets"]

First question: What, precisely, is your desired goal?  If your actual objective is on-field success then you need to look at a much more granular level to define that "success."

Is it "stopping the run?" If so then Cleveland is leading the league at 2.9 YPA. Couldn't say that last year - or any year of any previous organization.

Is it "stopping the pass"? Here we're 24th in YPA.. To nobody's surprise, this could be improved

Is it "yards per rush attempted?" If so then Cleveland defines the league average at 4.1 -- this may not be success but it's not failure.

Is it "total yards passing" ? Cleveland is 19th  -- sure, improve this, and it shocks nobody that NE is #1 in only this team stat.

Is it "Yards per passing attempt" ? Here we're in the bottom quartile at 30th.

So, it seems the areas we need to work on are pass D and pass O.  That's much more precise than "EVERYONE GO DIE IN A FIRE NOW KTHXBAI"

Where you been man? We done passed on every blue chip player the past two drafts for beans. But we were told that they're magic. Yes, football people making football decisions and get this stench of a team out a my back yard. It's shameful what the Haslam's are doing to a football rich area.

[nickers]

The Haslams have brought nothing but embarrassment to this once proud franchise...

[The Gipper]

@nickers said:

The Haslams have brought nothing but embarrassment to this once proud franchise...

So it would seem.  As an owner JH et al have just 2 jobs:  write the checks (after depositing the revenue checks)....and hire the right person to run your organization.   You can't fault JH for the former.....but, with the latter.....goodness.   How many Top Men has JH had here so far since buying the team?

From what I can tell, here is the history of it:

JH bought the team in August 2012.

He brought on Joe Banner that same month as Club President (Aug. 2012)

He allowed Holmgren and Heckert to stay on until the end of that year....when they were aufed.

Then Banner brought in Mike Lombardi in Feb. 2013.

Those two lasted only another year.   They were aufed in January 2014.

Where they brought in Ray Farmer as GM, and Alex Scheiner as club President...and they brought in Pettine.

In January 2016  both Farmer and Pettine were out. Somewhere in there Scheiner was also out.

Sachi Brown was in as Executive VP of Football Operations, Paul DePodesta as "chief strategy officer", and Andrew Berry as VP of Personell.

[The Gipper]

Here is the entire non coach/player personell of the Cleveland Browns:

MANAGEMENT
Jimmy Haslam	Owner
Dee Haslam	Owner
Sashi Brown	Executive Vice President, Football Operations
Paul DePodesta	Chief Strategy Officer
David A. Jenkins	Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer
Mike Nikolaus	Chief Human Resources Officer
Brent Stehlik	Executive Vice President, Chief Revenue Officer
Jim Brown	Special Advisor
Chris Cooper	Director, Football Administration
Ted Tywang	Director, Legal Affairs
Katie Noble-Murphy	Director, Ownership Operations
Will Black	Coordinator, Ownership Operations
Donna Podolak	Executive Assistant
Marikka Pretz-Anderson	Manager, Legal Affairs
Theresa Dunham	Executive Assistant
Cari Savage	Executive Assistant

 

PLAYER PERSONNEL
Andrew Berry	Vice President, Player Personnel
Ken Kovash	Vice President, Player Personnel
Ryan Grigson	Senior Personnel Executive
Kevin Meers	Director, Research and Strategy
Chisom Opara	Director, Player Personnel
Bobby Vega	Director, College Scouting
Dan Saganey	Director, Pro Scouting
Mike Cetta	Director, Scouting
Glenn Cook	Assistant Director, Scouting
Andrew Healy	Senior Strategist, Player Personnel
Dave Giuliani	Football Research Analyst
Aditya Krishnan	Football Research Analyst
Venessa Hutchinson	Coordinator, Football Operations & Personnel
Adam Al-Khayyal	Scout
Zach Ayers	Scout
Zac Bocian	Scout
Colton Chapple	Scout
Sam DeLuca	Scout
Scott Levin	Scout
Gerald McCully	Scout
Patrick Moore	Scout
Marshall Oium	Scout
Max Paulus	Scout
Sam Fioroni	Scouting Coordinator
Josh Cox	College Scouting Assistant
Keegan Leyrer	College Scouting Assistant
Scott DiBenedetto	Scouting Assistant
Tosan Eyetsemitan	Scouting Assistant
Branden Francis	Scouting Assistant
Tyler Hamblin	Scouting Assistant
Scott Kaniecki	Scouting Assistant
Dax Nollenberger	Scouting Assistant
Thomas Pack	Scouting Assistant
Michael Romanella	Scouting Assistant
Zach Wigmore	Scouting Assistant

 

FOOTBALL SUPPORT
TRAINING & MEDICAL
Joe Sheehan	Head Athletic Trainer
Andre Tucker	Assistant Head Athletic Trainer
Anthony Trem	Physical Therapist
Pat Rock	Assistant Athletic Trainer
Gordon Williams	Assistant Athletic Trainer
EQUIPMENT
Brad Melland	Head Equipment Manager
Jeff Inderhees	Assistant Equipment Manager
Jim McLaughlin	Assistant Equipment Manager
PLAYER ENGAGEMENT
Ron Brewer	Manager, Player Engagement
VIDEO
Rob Pavlas	Video Director
Ricky Palmer	Assistant Video Director
Ben Lawson	Video Assistant

 

FOOTBALL OPERATIONS
FOOTBALL OPERATIONS
Phil Dangerfield	Vice President, Football Operations
Simon Gelan	Director, Football Operations
Bryant Swindle	Coordinator, Football Operations
GROUNDS
Chris Powell	Head Groundskeeper
Neal Pate	Stadium Field Manager
Scott Springer	Grounds Supervisor
Andrew Bossard	Assistant Groundskeeper
Russell Horn	Assistant Groundskeeper
Jeff Witt	Assistant Groundskeeper
SECURITY
John Frain	Director, Security
John Boykin	Manager, Berea Security
James Payne	Manager, Stadium Security
Lovelle Brown	Stadium Security Officer
Bill Davis	Stadium Security Officer
Joseph Mann	Stadium Security Officer
Jonathan Patterson	Stadium Security Officer
Michael Sims	Stadium Security Officer

 

CLEVELAND BROWNS FOUNDATION
Renee Harvey	Vice President, Cleveland Browns Foundation
Cecilia Kaltz	Manager, Cleveland Browns Foundation

 

FAN AND BRAND DEVELOPMENT
Dave Freeman	Senior Vice President, Marketing and Media
Jen Leister	Manager, Marketing
CREATIVE SERVICES
Chris Modarelli	Director, Creative Services
Mark Podolak	Art Director
Greg Beutel	Graphic Designer
DIGITAL MEDIA
Jeremy Zimmer	Senior Director, Digital Media
Leah Archual	Manager, Digital Media
Keely McKenzie	Coordinator, Digital Design
Allie Raymond	Coordinator, Social Media
CONTENT & PRODUCTION
Sara Kornokovich	Director, Content & Production
Paul Taylor	Supervising Producer, Content and Production
Jeff McDaniel	Producer
Anthony Baucco	Associate Producer
Nicholas Beesley	Associate Producer
Rob Conroy	Associate Producer
Andrew Gribble	Senior Writer
Patrick Maks	Staff Writer
Keith Mollohan	Associate Producer
SCOREBOARD OPERATIONS
Kyle Millen	Director, Scoreboard Operations
Rich Hanchette	Motion Graphic Artist
Renee Arko	Coordinator, Scoreboard Operations
Sean Olivier	Coordinator, Scoreboard Operations
BROWNS RADIO DAILY
Nathan Zegura	Senior Media Broadcaster
FAN EXPERIENCE & SPECIAL EVENTS
Carlos Oseguera	Director, Fan Experience & Special Events
Corey Kinder	Manager, Fan Experience & Special Events
Megan Rock	Coordinator, Fan Experience & Special Events
Shelby O'Brien	Coordinator, Fan Experience & Special Events

 

FINANCE & ACCOUNTING
Gregory Rush	Vice President, Finance
Laurie Rice	Controller
Debbie Kruszynski	Manager, Travel & Compliance
Pamela Smith	Assistant Controller
Sue Majewski	Payroll Manager

 

BUSINESS ANALYTICS
David Giller	Manager, Business Analytics
Joe Moeller	Manager, Business Analytics
Linwood Jones	Senior Application Developer/Data Architect
Erica Mangino	Business Analyst
Sabina Skolnik	Data Architect/Data Integrity Specialist
Mark Smith	Sales and Marketing Systems Manager

 

ADMINISTRATION
Matt Srodek	Manager, Berea Facilities
Chris Cola	Coordinator, Berea Facilities
Carol Meier	Receptionist
Casey Thompson	Coordinator, Shipping & Receiving
Dee Vega	Wellness Manager

 

INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
Brandon Covert	Director, Information Technology
Seth Hooker	Director of Football IT
Jud Covert	Support Services Manager
Brad DeAngelis	Software Developer
Patrick Dorin	IT Support Specialist
Paul Knopp	IT Security Engineer
David Lowry	Network Administrator
Jeff Patton	Network Manager

 

COMMUNICATIONS
Peter John-Baptiste	Vice President, Communications
Dan Murphy	Senior Manager, Communications
Rob McBurnett	Senior Manager, Communications
Mike Annarella	Coordinator, Communications
ALUMNI
Kevin Mack	Alumni Relations
COMMUNITY RELATIONS
Jenner Tekancic	Vice President, Community Relations
Brittany Young	Manager, Community Relations
Cariema Wood	Coordinator, Community Relations & Alumni

 

CORPORATE PARTNERSHIPS
Randy Domain	Vice President, Corporate Partnerships
Nick Frasco	Senior Director, Corporate Partnerships & Suite Sales
Bridget Kakos	Director, Partnership Activation
Kelly Carroll	Senior Manager, Partnership Activation
Sean Othen	Senior Manager, Corporate Partnerships
Vanessa Bryan-Bekono	Manager, Partnership Activation
Lance Camden	Manager, Corporate Partnerships
Brent DeCoster	Manager, Corporate Partnerships
Joe Hamlin	Manager, Partnership Activation
Jessica O’Rielly	Manager, Digital and Media Sales
Lindsay Strauch	Manager, Partnership Activation
Nicole Willis	Manager, Corporate Partnerships
Cory Gilman	Coordinator, Partnership Activation
Kaila Lockhart	Coordinator, Partnership Activation
Audrey Medhurst	Coordinator, Partnership Activation
SUITE SALES & SERVICE
Steve Korey	Manager, Suite Sales
Sharon Smith	Manager, Suiteholder Experience
Nick Batista	Suite Sales Executive
Emma Ryan	Coordinator, Suite Sales and Service

 

TICKET SALES & SERVICE
Bob Sivik	Vice President, Ticket Sales & Service
Jess Brooks	Sales Coordinator
MEMBERSHIP SERVICES
Taylor Laurer	Director, Membership Services
Blake Adkins	Membership Services Representative, Season Tickets
Taylor Adrian	Membership Services Representative, Season Tickets
Tare Beaver	Membership Services Representative, Club Members
Jessica Berkshire	Membership Services Representative, Club Members
Connor Daugherty	Membership Services Representative, Season Tickets
Marina Dieker	Membership Services Representative, Season Tickets
Brian Gross	Membership Services Representative, Season Tickets
Zayna Ibrahim	Membership Services Representative, Premium Club Members
Maximo Meggitt	Membership Services Representative, Season Tickets
Madelyn Rossler	Membership Services Representative, Season Tickets
Brandon Schwartz	Membership Services Representative, Premium Club Members
PREMIUM AND GROUP SALES
Nick McNeill	Manager, Premium & Group Sales
Iman Warren	Senior Group Account Executive
Austin Pavilack	Premium Sales Representative
Miguel Pimentel	Premium Sales Representative
Brad Postlewaite	Premium Sales Representative
Joe Rizzo	Premium Sales Representative
Briana Harris	Group Account Executive
David Kodish	Group Account Executive
Kelvin Long	Group Account Executive
Thomas Mason	Group Account Executive
Lauren Merkt	Group Account Executive
Omari Robinson	Group Account Executive
TICKET OPERATIONS
Kacy Harmon	Director, Ticket Operations
David Lee	Senior Manager, Ticket Operations
Jason Decker	Manager, Ticket Operations
Monica Lince	Coordinator, Ticket Operations
SEASON TICKET SALES
Josh Young	Director, Ticket Sales
Mike Judge	Manager, Inside Sales & Recruiting
Kyle Burke	Account Executive
Andrew Calangelo	Account Executive
Maranda Hoffman	Account Executive
Dave Howson	Account Executive
Jake Jones	Account Executive
Victoria Leahy	Account Executive
Nick Luberger	Account Executive

 

STADIUM OPERATIONS & MAINTENANCE
STADIUM OPERATIONS
Troy Brown	Vice President, Stadium Operations
Brad Mohr	Director, Stadium Operations
Mike Good	Manager, Stadium Operations
Mike D'Angelo	Coordinator, Stadium Operations
Clete Diener	Coordinator, Stadium Operations
Hannah Mothersbaugh	Coordinator, Guest Services
MAINTENANCE
Don Husted	Director, Stadium Facilities
Bob Digney	Engineer
Aeriel Garcia	Stadium Maintenance
Bob Isgro	Engineer
Marshall Morgan	Stadium Maintenance
Jerry Ray	Engineer
Kimer Rogers	Engineer
Joshua Shur	Engineer
Chris Stanley	Stadium Maintenance
Eric Strick	Engineer
Jennifer Lawlis	Engineer

[The Gipper]

FOOTBALL OPERATIONS
Phil  Rodney Dangerfield	Vice President, Football Operations
Simon Gelan	Director, Football Operations
Bryant Swindle	Coordinator, Football Operations I noted the existence of these guys....yet they did not seem to be under Sachi's  Football Department. Who ARE these guys...and what do they do?

[domcucch1994]

Hue needs to go home and get his Shmucking shinebox..

[The Gipper]

@domcucch1994 said:

Hue needs to go home and get his Shmucking shinebox..

So? Now you go racist over him? It has not squat to do with his color/religion/sexual orientation. It has to do with his football competence.

[domcucch1994]

@the-gipper said:

So? Now you go racist over him? It has not squat to do with his color/religion/sexual orientation. It has to do with his football competence.

It's a quote from Goodfellas you fuking hayseed.

Now go home and get ya fukin shinebox!

[D Bone]

@texasag1969 said:

Look he's a terrific salesman. You can't say he didn't move a lot of latex for Vandalay Industries, right?

@diehardbrownsfan said:

I heard he's also a Marine Biologist.  

@texasag1969 said:

But of course he is mostly good at pretending to be an Architect (of great FB teams)

Some of our younger dudes are scratching their heads right about now........ 

D Bone's getting angry!! 

[The Gipper]

@domcucch1994 said:

It's a quote from Goodfellas you fuking hayseed.

Now go home and get ya fukin shinebox!

It doesn't make it any less racist just because it was in a good movie.

[domcucch1994]

@the-gipper said:

It doesn't make it any less racist just because it was in a good movie.

Hue would make your shoes look like fukin mirrors

[domcucch1994]

[The Gipper]

@domcucch1994 said:

Hue would make your shoes look like fukin mirrors

Or....I could just have you do it.   You know what that makes you.  My....N#$%^&

[DieHardBrownsFan]

Here you sensitive fat butt Gipper:

[TexasAg1969]

@d-bone said:

Some of our younger dudes are scratching their heads right about now........ 

D Bone's getting angry!! 

LOL! Hue really likes D bone.

[wargograw]

@texasag1969 said:

"The sea was angry that day my friends!"

"Lake"

"Whatever!"

Lol pretty sure the "whatever" line is when he calls it a fish and Jerry says "mammal."

@unsympathetic said:

What shots, exactly?

Not re-signing Pryor was GOOD.  Britt was viewed as a solid but unspectacular signing this past season.

Not re-signing Mitch was GOOD.  [Shon Jackson > schwartz in the total of run+pass]

Signing OL's this offseason that don't get our QB Luck'd was GOOD.

Getting the extra second while kicking the tires of Ostrich was GOOD -- in fact, it was so good it was[is still] viewed as a revolutionary outside-the-box "first".

There is no silver bullet to fixing the problems on the Browns team.. and not even one or two players from the OSU defense will "fix" it.

[For our out-of-state board members, the OSU defense is nicknamed "the silver bullets"]

First question: What, precisely, is your desired goal?  If your actual objective is on-field success then you need to look at a much more granular level to define that "success."

Is it "stopping the run?" If so then Cleveland is leading the league at 2.9 YPA. Couldn't say that last year - or any year of any previous organization.

Is it "stopping the pass"? Here we're 24th in YPA.. To nobody's surprise, this could be improved

Is it "yards per rush attempted?" If so then Cleveland defines the league average at 4.1 -- this may not be success but it's not failure.

Is it "total yards passing" ? Cleveland is 19th  -- sure, improve this, and it shocks nobody that NE is #1 in only this team stat.

Is it "Yards per passing attempt" ? Here we're in the bottom quartile at 30th.

So, it seems the areas we need to work on are pass D and pass O.  That's much more precise than "EVERYONE GO DIE IN A FIRE NOW KTHXBAI"

Great post.

@canton-dawg said:

Here's the only stat that matters. . .1-23.

No, your ideas for fixing it matter too. I'm guessing you have none.

@diehardbrownsfan said:

Here you sensitive fat butt Gipper:

Not bad. I like the efficiency. They forgot conditioner though and didn't use any water in the shine.

[TexasAg1969]

@wargograw said:

Lol pretty sure the "whatever" line is when he calls it a fish and Jerry says "mammal."

I know but it fit Hue's jumping into the lake comment just too well to pass up. Some of us adapt to our players better than others.

[jiggins7919]

I don't think we should fire Hue Jackson, and I don't think we should even entertain it.  First and foremost, we've DONE the firing thing over and over, and we know that doesn't work.  Also, it's not like the guy has some super talented team that he's mismanaging.  The Kizer experiment is failing, but again, even Kizer doesn't have supreme talent all around him that can help win a game.  We have no "game-breakers", no players that can "take over", or even any guys that can take the ordinary play and make it extraordinary.  We just don't have much on offense  

Now, what I WOULD be in favor of is an Offensive Coordinator.  Now who, I have no idea, but I'd be cool with a new offensive coordinator that could perhaps breathe a little life into our stagnant attack.  Again, we'd need to add actual TALENT, either via free agency, draft, or both, but I don't want to send Hue packing without trying everything first.  And that includes finding a talented offensive mind and pairing him with Hue.  

Our front office...well...that might be a different story.  I'm not in love with those guys, and they've whiffed on two potential QB's that could've saved our butts.  I think most of us realize Wentz and Watson wouldn't quite be having the same type of seasons with our abysmal talent, but I also think it's safe to say they'd be doing much better than Kizer.