Jimmy Grabsapillow Traded to....
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Also.....I heard that this deal left the Pats without a single other QB on their roster, not even on the PS, other than Brady.
So...who is coming in to back up Brady.
Could, perhaps, the K word be in play there?
Also.....I heard that this deal left the Pats without a single other QB on their roster, not even on the PS, other than Brady.
So...who is coming in to back up Brady.
Could, perhaps, the K word be in play there?
I doubt it. Brian Hoyer will go back there and back up Brady.
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Also.....I heard that this deal left the Pats without a single other QB on their roster, not even on the PS, other than Brady.
So...who is coming in to back up Brady.
Could, perhaps, the K word be in play there?
I doubt it. Brian Hoyer will go back there and back up Brady.
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Jrsis christ la canforra is an asshat
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all I can say and will is SUCK it to the poster here who wanted to send are first overall to the pats for a unproven player
all I can say and will is SUCK it to the poster here who wanted to send are first overall to the pats for a unproven player
I'll assume the Patriots got the higher of the 49ers two second round picks- which right now would be #33, (almost a first rounder) for sure probably no lower than #35. At this point, I would have offered the same deal to the Patriots- MHO is Kizer is a waste of time. Take your pick of Kessler or Hogan in the deal, they're both cheap.
In fairness no one would have been able to mentor the trainwreck named Johnny
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Kenny Britt. Working hard showing Coleman the ropes...
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LOL, there was some funny stuff on that #Browns link- here's just one- get ready Hue, the Lake Erie water is mighty cold come January....
Steven R. Walker@Steve_R_WalkerOtto just now... #Browns x.com/TheLifeOfKale/… -
If it's true that the FO had 0 awareness of this Jimmy G trade and didn't even attempt to make a phone call, then people need to be fired.
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@boo-fagley said:
Why?
High miles? Bad feet?
When an Amishman sells a horse, it is because the horse has been worked 1 step shy of death. If you want to witnsee animal cruelty first hadn, spend a week in a Amish hay fields or planting fields.
The Cleveland Browns have the hardest hit players in the NFL -
I wish the Browns still listened to Sam.
I wish the Browns still listened to Sam.
Love Sam. He has more football knowledge in his nutsack sweat than the entire FO.
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I wish the Browns still listened to Sam.
I wish the Browns still listened to Sam.
Was good to hear Sam.
Of course he went straight to the fact that we've got no veteran QB voice in the QB room....and right to our WR's & TE's, which are our 'playmakers', except they're NOT. And his major point of a lawyer being put in charge of the 53 man roster.
Now, I applauded Haslam for thinking outside of the box in the Committee concept...because the one GM football guy thing was not working for him, each time he tried it. But really, you have to have a true blue football guy in that committee. And he has to be given a strong voice. - Hue is the football guy for us...and he was SUPPOSED to have a voice, but I truly do not believe that his voice was given much credence.
It was funny when Sam was asked what Hue should do now (as far as the rest of the season goes).....I'm certain that Sam wanted to say, "Well, Hue's phucked. What the hell CAN he do with what he's got."
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I wish the Browns still listened to Sam.
Was good to hear Sam.
Of course he went straight to the fact that we've got no veteran QB voice in the QB room....and right to our WR's & TE's, which are our 'playmakers', except they're NOT. And his major point of a lawyer being put in charge of the 53 man roster.
Now, I applauded Haslam for thinking outside of the box in the Committee concept...because the one GM football guy thing was not working for him, each time he tried it. But really, you have to have a true blue football guy in that committee. And he has to be given a strong voice. - Hue is the football guy for us...and he was SUPPOSED to have a voice, but I truly do not believe that his voice was given much credence.
It was funny when Sam was asked what Hue should do now (as far as the rest of the season goes).....I'm certain that Sam wanted to say, "Well, Hue's phucked. What the hell CAN he do with what he's got."
Hue is the football guy for us...and he was SUPPOSED to have a voice, but I truly do not believe that his voice was given much credence.
Haslam likes "yes men" and Hue was cool with that and the Sashi moneyball Front Office because he thought they'd let him have more of a say.
But if Jimmy likes a QB, I bet they take him over what Hue wants.
Sashi is trying to save money and look for undervalued talent (Kizer)
Good QB's are rare.
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@boo-fagley said:
Why?
High miles? Bad feet?
When an Amishman sells a horse, it is because the horse has been worked 1 step shy of death. If you want to witnsee animal cruelty first hadn, spend a week in a Amish hay fields or planting fields.
When an Amishman sells a horse, it is because the horse has been worked 1 step shy of death. If you want to witnsee animal cruelty first hadn, spend a week in a Amish hay fields or planting fields.
But some of them value their animals Tom. My brother had hunting privileges on an Amish guys farm- if you see a groundhog, shoot it- I don't want any of my horses falling into one of their holes & breaking a leg. As an aside- the best bacon I've ever had in my life came from that guy's farm. He smoked it over some hickory, and didn't particularly care how much wood he was using. And damn near zero shrinkage, unlike you get with the max water injected commercial crap.
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@boo-fagley said:
Why?
High miles? Bad feet?
When an Amishman sells a horse, it is because the horse has been worked 1 step shy of death. If you want to witnsee animal cruelty first hadn, spend a week in a Amish hay fields or planting fields.
When an Amishman sells a horse, it is because the horse has been worked 1 step shy of death. If you want to witnsee animal cruelty first hadn, spend a week in a Amish hay fields or planting fields.
u ain't seen Sheet until ur driving through KY dry county backroad still country where those people picking their belly buttons hope you break down driving through the rocks and limbs of a dirt road cuz u and ur friends thought it'd be cool to drive around and drink a case of beer. i don't know which is worse....the appalachian inbreds or the chicago project young african american killers.
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When an Amishman sells a horse, it is because the horse has been worked 1 step shy of death. If you want to witnsee animal cruelty first hadn, spend a week in a Amish hay fields or planting fields.
u ain't seen Sheet until ur driving through KY dry county backroad still country where those people picking their belly buttons hope you break down driving through the rocks and limbs of a dirt road cuz u and ur friends thought it'd be cool to drive around and drink a case of beer. i don't know which is worse....the appalachian inbreds or the chicago project young african american killers.
u ain't seen Sheet until ur driving through KY dry county backroad still country where those people picking their belly buttons hope you break down driving through the rocks and limbs of a dirt road cuz u and ur friends thought it'd be cool to drive around and drink a case of beer. i don't know which is worse....the appalachian inbreds or the chicago project young african american killers.
I bet you got a purty mouth.
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This is interesting and take it for what's it worth but I was listening to the Sirius XM blitz with Brady Quinn and Bruce Murray (they are pretty neutral for the most part), and one of the topics of conversation was comparing JG to the big 3 (rosen, darnold, allen) in this upcoming draft class. The conclusion was that he would be 4th...which I found to be very interesting. Quinn loves Josh Allen and Murray compared Darnold to Luck especially in his senior year when he was also forcing a lot of passes. They both said that the risk with JG is that you are going to have to pay him AT LEAST 25 million/yr b/c that's what the tag is going to cost you plus a second rounder. Yes, you get his "experience" but in all reality it is only 2.5 games. Now, the niners will probably get at least 6 maybe 7 games to view him and make an assessment but for Quinn and Murray's money, they do not feel he is that much superior to any of the other three. Plus, how many times have back-up qb's come in for a few games, looked good, got massive deals from another team and then failed miserably. Just about every single time. Obviously, there are exceptions to the rules
I find this interesting only because I was asking myself the same question. I was on the JG train and still think he is going to be a very good qb. I also feel the browns should have tried to get him from NE and given him a tryout. That being said, I was very surprised by what they said. I would have placed him in the top 2 compared to this class but for them to rank him that far below is surprising. For a team like the browns, maybe this was the reason they made a decision to not pursue. Maybe NE never even gave them an opportunity, something no one is talking about. Kizer has shown improvements and he is so young in his development. Maybe they want to actually see what he can be before making a decision. They are the ones who are out doing the scouting now during the season and maybe they have evaluated these guys and love one or two of them which has influenced this trade deadline.
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This is interesting and take it for what's it worth but I was listening to the Sirius XM blitz with Brady Quinn and Bruce Murray (they are pretty neutral for the most part), and one of the topics of conversation was comparing JG to the big 3 (rosen, darnold, allen) in this upcoming draft class. The conclusion was that he would be 4th...which I found to be very interesting. Quinn loves Josh Allen and Murray compared Darnold to Luck especially in his senior year when he was also forcing a lot of passes. They both said that the risk with JG is that you are going to have to pay him AT LEAST 25 million/yr b/c that's what the tag is going to cost you plus a second rounder. Yes, you get his "experience" but in all reality it is only 2.5 games. Now, the niners will probably get at least 6 maybe 7 games to view him and make an assessment but for Quinn and Murray's money, they do not feel he is that much superior to any of the other three. Plus, how many times have back-up qb's come in for a few games, looked good, got massive deals from another team and then failed miserably. Just about every single time. Obviously, there are exceptions to the rules
I find this interesting only because I was asking myself the same question. I was on the JG train and still think he is going to be a very good qb. I also feel the browns should have tried to get him from NE and given him a tryout. That being said, I was very surprised by what they said. I would have placed him in the top 2 compared to this class but for them to rank him that far below is surprising. For a team like the browns, maybe this was the reason they made a decision to not pursue. Maybe NE never even gave them an opportunity, something no one is talking about. Kizer has shown improvements and he is so young in his development. Maybe they want to actually see what he can be before making a decision. They are the ones who are out doing the scouting now during the season and maybe they have evaluated these guys and love one or two of them which has influenced this trade deadline.
This is interesting and take it for what's it worth but I was listening to the Sirius XM blitz with Brady Quinn and Bruce Murray (they are pretty neutral for the most part), and one of the topics of conversation was comparing JG to the big 3 (rosen, darnold, allen) in this upcoming draft class. The conclusion was that he would be 4th...which I found to be very interesting. Quinn loves Josh Allen and Murray compared Darnold to Luck especially in his senior year when he was also forcing a lot of passes. They both said that the risk with JG is that you are going to have to pay him AT LEAST 25 million/yr b/c that's what the tag is going to cost you plus a second rounder. Yes, you get his "experience" but in all reality it is only 2.5 games. Now, the niners will probably get at least 6 maybe 7 games to view him and make an assessment but for Quinn and Murray's money, they do not feel he is that much superior to any of the other three. Plus, how many times have back-up qb's come in for a few games, looked good, got massive deals from another team and then failed miserably. Just about every single time. Obviously, there are exceptions to the rules
I find this interesting only because I was asking myself the same question. I was on the JG train and still think he is going to be a very good qb. I also feel the browns should have tried to get him from NE and given him a tryout. That being said, I was very surprised by what they said. I would have placed him in the top 2 compared to this class but for them to rank him that far below is surprising. For a team like the browns, maybe this was the reason they made a decision to not pursue. Maybe NE never even gave them an opportunity, something no one is talking about. Kizer has shown improvements and he is so young in his development. Maybe they want to actually see what he can be before making a decision. They are the ones who are out doing the scouting now during the season and maybe they have evaluated these guys and love one or two of them which has influenced this trade deadline.
A very fair comment. JG was a second round pick. And yes, I agree with Quinn etc. that he has shown nothing at this point to warrant a 25 million dollar contract. If he wins 4 games for the Niners the rest of the year? Well, maybe.
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This is interesting and take it for what's it worth but I was listening to the Sirius XM blitz with Brady Quinn and Bruce Murray (they are pretty neutral for the most part), and one of the topics of conversation was comparing JG to the big 3 (rosen, darnold, allen) in this upcoming draft class. The conclusion was that he would be 4th...which I found to be very interesting. Quinn loves Josh Allen and Murray compared Darnold to Luck especially in his senior year when he was also forcing a lot of passes. They both said that the risk with JG is that you are going to have to pay him AT LEAST 25 million/yr b/c that's what the tag is going to cost you plus a second rounder. Yes, you get his "experience" but in all reality it is only 2.5 games. Now, the niners will probably get at least 6 maybe 7 games to view him and make an assessment but for Quinn and Murray's money, they do not feel he is that much superior to any of the other three. Plus, how many times have back-up qb's come in for a few games, looked good, got massive deals from another team and then failed miserably. Just about every single time. Obviously, there are exceptions to the rules
I find this interesting only because I was asking myself the same question. I was on the JG train and still think he is going to be a very good qb. I also feel the browns should have tried to get him from NE and given him a tryout. That being said, I was very surprised by what they said. I would have placed him in the top 2 compared to this class but for them to rank him that far below is surprising. For a team like the browns, maybe this was the reason they made a decision to not pursue. Maybe NE never even gave them an opportunity, something no one is talking about. Kizer has shown improvements and he is so young in his development. Maybe they want to actually see what he can be before making a decision. They are the ones who are out doing the scouting now during the season and maybe they have evaluated these guys and love one or two of them which has influenced this trade deadline.
A very fair comment. JG was a second round pick. And yes, I agree with Quinn etc. that he has shown nothing at this point to warrant a 25 million dollar contract. If he wins 4 games for the Niners the rest of the year? Well, maybe.
A very fair comment. JG was a second round pick. And yes, I agree with Quinn etc. that he has shown nothing at this point to warrant a 25 million dollar contract. If he wins 4 games for the Niners the rest of the year? Well, maybe.
He's a leader, learned under Brady, and has all the right intangibles.
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A very fair comment. JG was a second round pick. And yes, I agree with Quinn etc. that he has shown nothing at this point to warrant a 25 million dollar contract. If he wins 4 games for the Niners the rest of the year? Well, maybe.
He's a leader, learned under Brady, and has all the right intangibles.
He's a leader, learned under Brady, and has all the right intangibles.
There is NOTHING in the record to prove that. It is all potential...and who knows if it will come to fruition. The 49ers may still lose all the rest of their games...even with him in there.
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He's a leader, learned under Brady, and has all the right intangibles.
There is NOTHING in the record to prove that. It is all potential...and who knows if it will come to fruition. The 49ers may still lose all the rest of their games...even with him in there.
There is NOTHING in the record to prove that. It is all potential...and who knows if it will come to fruition. The 49ers may still lose all the rest of their games...even with him in there.
Hue said "trust me" with Kessler, so i'm saying my own "trust me"
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There is NOTHING in the record to prove that. It is all potential...and who knows if it will come to fruition. The 49ers may still lose all the rest of their games...even with him in there.
Hue said "trust me" with Kessler, so i'm saying my own "trust me"
Hue said "trust me" with Kessler, so i'm saying my own "trust me"
In other words, you are saying subliminally "don't trust me".....as my judgment is as completely messed up as Hue's when it comes to QB talent.
And that is pretty fuhucking fuhucked up.
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All worth reading and digesting
BB is apparently tired of dealing with Sashi.. because BB can no longer fleece Berea for whatever he proposes.
"The front office tries to win every deal" --- as opposed to the Jags, I presume?
"When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
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