This report about staff vs FO on garrapolo is not good...
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@boo-fagley said:
Now we get to find out if he is any good.
Probably wont start next game though.
Jimmy is good. bank on it.
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@boo-fagley said:
He is, but how can you not take a QB with the 1st pick next draft?
I'm afraid we'll miss. I don't know if I see a Watson or Wentz. Rosen is iffy. I'd of rather had Cousins or Jimmy G. Maybe the 49ers realized that so that's why they made a deal.
Other teams are doing everything possible to win now, even San Fran, and we're content with our winless QB's.
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@boo-fagley said:
He is, but how can you not take a QB with the 1st pick next draft?
I'm afraid we'll miss. I don't know if I see a Watson or Wentz. Rosen is iffy. I'd of rather had Cousins or Jimmy G. Maybe the 49ers realized that so that's why they made a deal.
Other teams are doing everything possible to win now, even San Fran, and we're content with our winless QB's.
I'm afraid we'll miss. I don't know if I see a Watson or Wentz. Rosen is iffy. I'd of rather had Cousins or Jimmy G. Maybe the 49ers realized that so that's why they made a deal.
Other teams are doing everything possible to win now, even San Fran, and we're content with our winless QB's.
I am 100% on the Cousins band wagon. We have proven time and again we can't pick QBs in the draft. Even for the best talent evaluators it's a gamble. The only way we might pull a starting QB out of the draft is if we use every pick we have on QB's. Blind squirrel theory.
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if this is true then wtf? We have 3 2nd round picks and couldnt land garrapolo? We could have "foisted" i mean sweetened the pot with Britt. Lols.....but stsly, this speaks to a major disconnect between staff and office. Not good.
But what it also shows is hue is not on the kizer wagon no more. This has to mean Qb with the 1st pick next year
if this is true then wtf? We have 3 2nd round picks and couldnt land garrapolo? We could have "foisted" i mean sweetened the pot with Britt. Lols.....but stsly, this speaks to a major disconnect between staff and office. Not good.
But what it also shows is hue is not on the kizer wagon no more. This has to mean Qb with the 1st pick next year
Hue is at least trying to win- now. The QB musical chairs tells me all I need to know. If it's even remotely true- "The Process" is going to get seriously tweaked in the off season. I'd demote Sashi back to contract negotiation- only. He's so far in over his head it's just sad.
We have draft picks out the wazoo- Haslam has to know the fans are out of patience, and playing a failing Kizer to go 0-16 isn't going to sit well. It could have been a trade deadline splash to show the long suffering fans we have at least a mild interest in winning a couple of games this year- but nope, just trust us with our boatload of 2018 draft picks. Sorry if I don't. Garropolo for a second? Darius for a 6th? Like that wouldn't even remotely improve the Browns THIS year?
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I'm afraid we'll miss. I don't know if I see a Watson or Wentz. Rosen is iffy. I'd of rather had Cousins or Jimmy G. Maybe the 49ers realized that so that's why they made a deal.
Other teams are doing everything possible to win now, even San Fran, and we're content with our winless QB's.
I am 100% on the Cousins band wagon. We have proven time and again we can't pick QBs in the draft. Even for the best talent evaluators it's a gamble. The only way we might pull a starting QB out of the draft is if we use every pick we have on QB's. Blind squirrel theory.
I am 100% on the Cousins band wagon. We have proven time and again we can't pick QBs in the draft. Even for the best talent evaluators it's a gamble. The only way we might pull a starting QB out of the draft is if we use every pick we have on QB's. Blind squirrel theory.
Agreed. Need to grab Cousins.
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if this is true then wtf? We have 3 2nd round picks and couldnt land garrapolo? We could have "foisted" i mean sweetened the pot with Britt. Lols.....but stsly, this speaks to a major disconnect between staff and office. Not good.
But what it also shows is hue is not on the kizer wagon no more. This has to mean Qb with the 1st pick next year
Hue is at least trying to win- now. The QB musical chairs tells me all I need to know. If it's even remotely true- "The Process" is going to get seriously tweaked in the off season. I'd demote Sashi back to contract negotiation- only. He's so far in over his head it's just sad.
We have draft picks out the wazoo- Haslam has to know the fans are out of patience, and playing a failing Kizer to go 0-16 isn't going to sit well. It could have been a trade deadline splash to show the long suffering fans we have at least a mild interest in winning a couple of games this year- but nope, just trust us with our boatload of 2018 draft picks. Sorry if I don't. Garropolo for a second? Darius for a 6th? Like that wouldn't even remotely improve the Browns THIS year?
Hue is at least trying to win- now. The QB musical chairs tells me all I need to know. If it's even remotely true- "The Process" is going to get seriously tweaked in the off season. I'd demote Sashi back to contract negotiation- only. He's so far in over his head it's just sad.
We have draft picks out the wazoo- Haslam has to know the fans are out of patience, and playing a failing Kizer to go 0-16 isn't going to sit well. It could have been a trade deadline splash to show the long suffering fans we have at least a mild interest in winning a couple of games this year- but nope, just trust us with our boatload of 2018 draft picks. Sorry if I don't. Garropolo for a second? Darius for a 6th? Like that wouldn't even remotely improve the Browns THIS year?
We only want a large stock of young twenty year olds and undrafted free agents. maybe they will be good someday, maybe not, but we'll see.
who needs veteran leadership or a quarterback when your combined 3 QBs have never won an NFL game?
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@boo-fagley said:
He is, but how can you not take a QB with the 1st pick next draft?
I'm afraid we'll miss. I don't know if I see a Watson or Wentz. Rosen is iffy. I'd of rather had Cousins or Jimmy G. Maybe the 49ers realized that so that's why they made a deal.
Other teams are doing everything possible to win now, even San Fran, and we're content with our winless QB's.
I'm afraid we'll miss. I don't know if I see a Watson or Wentz. Rosen is iffy. I'd of rather had Cousins or Jimmy G. Maybe the 49ers realized that so that's why they made a deal.
Other teams are doing everything possible to win now, even San Fran, and we're content with our winless QB's.
The owner might be content, but me as a fan? No way! That's why all the griping. I can only think of a couple of other people that are content with this septic tank of a team. They stink!
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Often times before a catastrophic blow up, there's a signature event that the owner just can't ignore. Look no further than failing to get Garoppolo and then not filing the trade paperwork before the deadline. It's over folks.
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Often times before a catastrophic blow up, there's a signature event that the owner just can't ignore. Look no further than failing to get Garoppolo and then not filing the trade paperwork before the deadline. It's over folks.
Often times before a catastrophic blow up, there's a signature event that the owner just can't ignore. Look no further than failing to get Garoppolo and then not filing the trade paperwork before the deadline. It's over folks.
And if it's not...it should be. Turn out the lights on this mess.
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Hue is at least trying to win- now. The QB musical chairs tells me all I need to know. If it's even remotely true- "The Process" is going to get seriously tweaked in the off season. I'd demote Sashi back to contract negotiation- only. He's so far in over his head it's just sad.
We have draft picks out the wazoo- Haslam has to know the fans are out of patience, and playing a failing Kizer to go 0-16 isn't going to sit well. It could have been a trade deadline splash to show the long suffering fans we have at least a mild interest in winning a couple of games this year- but nope, just trust us with our boatload of 2018 draft picks. Sorry if I don't. Garropolo for a second? Darius for a 6th? Like that wouldn't even remotely improve the Browns THIS year?
We only want a large stock of young twenty year olds and undrafted free agents. maybe they will be good someday, maybe not, but we'll see.
who needs veteran leadership or a quarterback when your combined 3 QBs have never won an NFL game?
We only want a large stock of young twenty year olds and undrafted free agents. maybe they will be good someday, maybe not, but we'll see.
who needs veteran leadership or a quarterback when your combined 3 QBs have never won an NFL game?
Ironic isn't it that our 2014 pick has infinitely more wins than any of them. What the hell bring him back for entertainment value alone and the occasional win for the fans. At least he could hit a wide open receiver long, unlike anyone we have now.
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Why not bring in Cousins?
Dude will be 30 next year, has played and has been consistent in this league for a few years.Let Kizer develop behind a proven QB like Kirk.
Draft Saquon, a good CB, and use the 3 2nd rounders on a WR, T, and LB
We need to solidify our oline, get them to open up holes as big as a pornstars vag, so Saquon can hit them, and take us to at least mediocrity in 2018..
8-8 if we get Cousins, get Gordon back, have a healthy Corey Coleman, and a defense that isn't gassed all the time
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Why not bring in Cousins?
Dude will be 30 next year, has played and has been consistent in this league for a few years.Let Kizer develop behind a proven QB like Kirk.
Draft Saquon, a good CB, and use the 3 2nd rounders on a WR, T, and LB
We need to solidify our oline, get them to open up holes as big as a pornstars vag, so Saquon can hit them, and take us to at least mediocrity in 2018..
8-8 if we get Cousins, get Gordon back, have a healthy Corey Coleman, and a defense that isn't gassed all the time
Why not bring in Cousins?
Dude will be 30 next year, has played and has been consistent in this league for a few years.Let Kizer develop behind a proven QB like Kirk.
Draft Saquon, a good CB, and use the 3 2nd rounders on a WR, T, and LB
We need to solidify our oline, get them to open up holes as big as a pornstars vag, so Saquon can hit them, and take us to at least mediocrity in 2018..
8-8 if we get Cousins, get Gordon back, have a healthy Corey Coleman, and a defense that isn't gassed all the time
Cousins will most likely go to a team that has a better track record. Cards? Pat's? Stools?
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Why not bring in Cousins?
Dude will be 30 next year, has played and has been consistent in this league for a few years.Let Kizer develop behind a proven QB like Kirk.
Draft Saquon, a good CB, and use the 3 2nd rounders on a WR, T, and LB
We need to solidify our oline, get them to open up holes as big as a pornstars vag, so Saquon can hit them, and take us to at least mediocrity in 2018..
8-8 if we get Cousins, get Gordon back, have a healthy Corey Coleman, and a defense that isn't gassed all the time
Cousins will most likely go to a team that has a better track record. Cards? Pat's? Stools?
Cousins will most likely go to a team that has a better track record. Cards? Pat's? Stools?
not if we throw money at him.. Money talks..
5 year deal/ $120 million
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Cousins will most likely go to a team that has a better track record. Cards? Pat's? Stools?
not if we throw money at him.. Money talks..
5 year deal/ $120 million
not if we throw money at him.. Money talks..
5 year deal/ $120 million
I know what you're saying and mean. It'd be nice. Any way you look at it, he gets a fat contract. Would he be willing to go to a team like us tho?
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Why not bring in Cousins?
Dude will be 30 next year, has played and has been consistent in this league for a few years.Let Kizer develop behind a proven QB like Kirk.
Draft Saquon, a good CB, and use the 3 2nd rounders on a WR, T, and LB
We need to solidify our oline, get them to open up holes as big as a pornstars vag, so Saquon can hit them, and take us to at least mediocrity in 2018..
8-8 if we get Cousins, get Gordon back, have a healthy Corey Coleman, and a defense that isn't gassed all the time
Cousins will most likely go to a team that has a better track record. Cards? Pat's? Stools?
Cousins will most likely go to a team that has a better track record. Cards? Pat's? Stools?
Jags.
He won't go to Pats....unless Brady breaks his neck and cannot play.
He won't go to Steelers....unless the drama queen there actually does retire. (and he will likely pull a Brett Favre...and string out his retirement announcement for 3-4 years)
He would want to go to a team ready to win. ..that just needs a QB That would mean Jags, Broncos, maybe Cards....and maybe stay with the Redskins
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Jags sounds about right.
Why Denver? Don't they have a shiny new $16,000,000 QB they're starting this Sunday? Lol
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What about a trade? The redskins in theory could franchise tag cousins and still trade him. Yes, that would put his price tag at $35 million but the browns could fit that under the cap. The browns could then offer some package of 2nd and 3rds to pick him up. They could play him under the tag for that year, giving kizer time to develop and/or sign him to a deal. Now, the skins would probably want a first rounder but the browns do not have to give it. They have all the leverage, assuming Hue and Haslam don't freak out. $35 is a HUGE cap number and would basically prohibit the skins from signing another FA
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What about a trade? The redskins in theory could franchise tag cousins and still trade him. Yes, that would put his price tag at $35 million but the browns could fit that under the cap. The browns could then offer some package of 2nd and 3rds to pick him up. They could play him under the tag for that year, giving kizer time to develop and/or sign him to a deal. Now, the skins would probably want a first rounder but the browns do not have to give it. They have all the leverage, assuming Hue and Haslam don't freak out. $35 is a HUGE cap number and would basically prohibit the skins from signing another FA
What about a trade? The redskins in theory could franchise tag cousins and still trade him. Yes, that would put his price tag at $35 million but the browns could fit that under the cap. The browns could then offer some package of 2nd and 3rds to pick him up. They could play him under the tag for that year, giving kizer time to develop and/or sign him to a deal. Now, the skins would probably want a first rounder but the browns do not have to give it. They have all the leverage, assuming Hue and Haslam don't freak out. $35 is a HUGE cap number and would basically prohibit the skins from signing another FA
Why would the Browns do that? When they could just try to sign him as a FA.
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It all depends on what the redskins do. I have a hard time believing they are going to just let Cousins walk into FA and get nothing but a comp pick in return. He's proven, no matter how much you think he is worth, that he is an above average qb. The browns have shown that is a difficult thing to find. The redskins have to also know this to be true. The skins are in mediocrity right now. What's their plans for the future? they have no young qb they are grooming. They sit 3-4 right now and could end up being 8-8 by the time this season is over. They could want to start over or continue with Cousins but they have to make a decision. They could tag cousins, the browns could offer a 2, 3 and Kessler and the skins are exactly in the same position as they were with Cousins.
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It's just an article, but hopefully the FO and coaches are getting along and the process is going better than we assume.
It's just an article, but hopefully the FO and coaches are getting along and the process is going better than we assume.
I keep telling y'all... That is the process. If a move is not at minimum accepted by all, then it is not made.
Hue can cry his eyes out... Have his daughter speak to the press and the only thing she'll do is earn him a ticket out of town.
What goes on in Berea, stays in Berea...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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