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  • Often times before a catastrophic blow up, there's a signature event that the owner just can't ignore. Look no further than failing to get Garoppolo and then not filing the trade paperwork before the deadline. It's over folks. 

    @jiggins7919 said:

    Often times before a catastrophic blow up, there's a signature event that the owner just can't ignore. Look no further than failing to get Garoppolo and then not filing the trade paperwork before the deadline. It's over folks. 

    And if it's not...it should be. Turn out the lights on this mess.

  • @hoorta said:

    Hue is at least trying to win- now. The QB musical chairs tells me all I need to know. If it's even remotely true- "The Process" is going to get seriously tweaked in the off season. I'd demote Sashi back to contract negotiation- only. He's so far in over his head it's just sad. 

    We have draft picks out the wazoo- Haslam has to know the fans are out of patience, and playing a failing Kizer to go 0-16 isn't going to sit well. It could  have been a trade deadline splash to show the long suffering fans we have at least a mild interest in winning a couple of games this year- but nope, just trust us with our boatload of 2018 draft picks. Sorry if I don't. Garropolo for a second? Darius for a 6th? Like that wouldn't even remotely improve the Browns THIS year? 

    We only want a large stock of young twenty year olds and undrafted free agents. maybe they will be good someday, maybe not, but we'll see.

    who needs veteran leadership or a quarterback when your combined 3 QBs have never won an NFL game?

    @stillmotion said:

    We only want a large stock of young twenty year olds and undrafted free agents. maybe they will be good someday, maybe not, but we'll see.

    who needs veteran leadership or a quarterback when your combined 3 QBs have never won an NFL game?

    Ironic isn't it that our 2014 pick has infinitely more wins than any of them. What the hell bring him back for entertainment value alone and the occasional win for the fans. At least he could hit a wide open receiver long, unlike anyone we have now.

  • Why not bring in Cousins?

    Dude will be 30 next year, has played and has been consistent in this league for a few years.

    Let Kizer develop behind a proven QB like Kirk. 

    Draft Saquon, a good CB, and use the 3 2nd rounders on a WR, T, and LB

    We need to solidify our oline, get them to open up holes as big as a pornstars vag, so Saquon can hit them, and take us to at least mediocrity in 2018..

    8-8 if we get Cousins, get Gordon back, have a healthy Corey Coleman, and a defense that isn't gassed all the time

  • Why not bring in Cousins?

    Dude will be 30 next year, has played and has been consistent in this league for a few years.

    Let Kizer develop behind a proven QB like Kirk. 

    Draft Saquon, a good CB, and use the 3 2nd rounders on a WR, T, and LB

    We need to solidify our oline, get them to open up holes as big as a pornstars vag, so Saquon can hit them, and take us to at least mediocrity in 2018..

    8-8 if we get Cousins, get Gordon back, have a healthy Corey Coleman, and a defense that isn't gassed all the time

    @domcucch1994 said:

    Why not bring in Cousins?

    Dude will be 30 next year, has played and has been consistent in this league for a few years.

    Let Kizer develop behind a proven QB like Kirk. 

    Draft Saquon, a good CB, and use the 3 2nd rounders on a WR, T, and LB

    We need to solidify our oline, get them to open up holes as big as a pornstars vag, so Saquon can hit them, and take us to at least mediocrity in 2018..

    8-8 if we get Cousins, get Gordon back, have a healthy Corey Coleman, and a defense that isn't gassed all the time

    Cousins will most likely go to a team that has a better track record. Cards? Pat's? Stools?

  • @domcucch1994 said:

    Why not bring in Cousins?

    Dude will be 30 next year, has played and has been consistent in this league for a few years.

    Let Kizer develop behind a proven QB like Kirk. 

    Draft Saquon, a good CB, and use the 3 2nd rounders on a WR, T, and LB

    We need to solidify our oline, get them to open up holes as big as a pornstars vag, so Saquon can hit them, and take us to at least mediocrity in 2018..

    8-8 if we get Cousins, get Gordon back, have a healthy Corey Coleman, and a defense that isn't gassed all the time

    Cousins will most likely go to a team that has a better track record. Cards? Pat's? Stools?

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    Cousins will most likely go to a team that has a better track record. Cards? Pat's? Stools?

    not if we throw money at him.. Money talks..

    5 year deal/ $120 million

  • @flyingfooldoug said:

    Cousins will most likely go to a team that has a better track record. Cards? Pat's? Stools?

    not if we throw money at him.. Money talks..

    5 year deal/ $120 million

    @domcucch1994 said:

    not if we throw money at him.. Money talks..

    5 year deal/ $120 million

    I know what you're saying and mean. It'd be nice. Any way you look at it, he gets a fat contract. Would he be willing to go to a team like us tho?

  • @domcucch1994 said:

    Why not bring in Cousins?

    Dude will be 30 next year, has played and has been consistent in this league for a few years.

    Let Kizer develop behind a proven QB like Kirk. 

    Draft Saquon, a good CB, and use the 3 2nd rounders on a WR, T, and LB

    We need to solidify our oline, get them to open up holes as big as a pornstars vag, so Saquon can hit them, and take us to at least mediocrity in 2018..

    8-8 if we get Cousins, get Gordon back, have a healthy Corey Coleman, and a defense that isn't gassed all the time

    Cousins will most likely go to a team that has a better track record. Cards? Pat's? Stools?

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    Cousins will most likely go to a team that has a better track record. Cards? Pat's? Stools?

    Jags.

    He won't go to Pats....unless Brady breaks his neck and cannot play.

    He won't go to Steelers....unless the drama queen there actually does retire.  (and he will likely pull a Brett Favre...and string out his retirement announcement for 3-4 years)

    He would want to go to a team ready to win. ..that just needs a QB  That would mean Jags, Broncos, maybe Cards....and maybe stay with the Redskins

  • Jags sounds about right. 

     Why Denver? Don't they have a shiny new $16,000,000 QB they're starting this Sunday? Lol

  • What about a trade? The redskins in theory could franchise tag cousins and still trade him. Yes, that would put his price tag at $35 million but the browns could fit that under the cap. The browns could then offer some package of 2nd and 3rds to pick him up. They could play him under the tag for that year, giving kizer time to develop and/or sign him to a deal. Now, the skins would probably want a first rounder but the browns do not have to give it. They have all the leverage, assuming Hue and Haslam don't freak out. $35 is a HUGE cap number and would basically prohibit the skins from signing another FA

  • What about a trade? The redskins in theory could franchise tag cousins and still trade him. Yes, that would put his price tag at $35 million but the browns could fit that under the cap. The browns could then offer some package of 2nd and 3rds to pick him up. They could play him under the tag for that year, giving kizer time to develop and/or sign him to a deal. Now, the skins would probably want a first rounder but the browns do not have to give it. They have all the leverage, assuming Hue and Haslam don't freak out. $35 is a HUGE cap number and would basically prohibit the skins from signing another FA

    @bigalow80 said:

    What about a trade? The redskins in theory could franchise tag cousins and still trade him. Yes, that would put his price tag at $35 million but the browns could fit that under the cap. The browns could then offer some package of 2nd and 3rds to pick him up. They could play him under the tag for that year, giving kizer time to develop and/or sign him to a deal. Now, the skins would probably want a first rounder but the browns do not have to give it. They have all the leverage, assuming Hue and Haslam don't freak out. $35 is a HUGE cap number and would basically prohibit the skins from signing another FA

    Why would the Browns do that?  When they could just try to sign him as a FA.

  • It all depends on what the redskins do. I have a hard time believing they are going to just let Cousins walk into FA and get nothing but a comp pick in return. He's proven, no matter how much you think he is worth, that he is an above average qb. The browns have shown that is a difficult thing to find. The redskins have to also know this to be true. The skins are in mediocrity right now. What's their plans for the future? they have  no young qb they are grooming. They sit 3-4 right now and could end up being 8-8 by the time this season is over. They could want to start over or continue with Cousins but they have to make a decision. They could tag cousins, the browns could offer a 2, 3 and Kessler and the skins are exactly in the same position as they were with Cousins. 

  • It's just an article, but hopefully the FO and coaches are getting along and the process is going better than we assume.

    @stillmotion said:

    It's just an article, but hopefully the FO and coaches are getting along and the process is going better than we assume.

    I keep telling y'all... That is the process. If a move is not at minimum accepted by all, then it is not made.

    Hue can cry his eyes out... Have his daughter speak to the press and the only thing she'll do is earn him a ticket out of town.

    What goes on in Berea, stays in Berea...

  • @stillmotion said:

    It's just an article, but hopefully the FO and coaches are getting along and the process is going better than we assume.

    I keep telling y'all... That is the process. If a move is not at minimum accepted by all, then it is not made.

    Hue can cry his eyes out... Have his daughter speak to the press and the only thing she'll do is earn him a ticket out of town.

    What goes on in Berea, stays in Berea...

    @tour2ma said:

    I keep telling y'all... That is the process. If a move is not at minimum accepted by all, then it is not made.

    I know that's what you keep saying is happening, but I'm not buying it for a second. 

    Not a second T. 

  • @stillmotion said:

    It's just an article, but hopefully the FO and coaches are getting along and the process is going better than we assume.

    I keep telling y'all... That is the process. If a move is not at minimum accepted by all, then it is not made.

    Hue can cry his eyes out... Have his daughter speak to the press and the only thing she'll do is earn him a ticket out of town.

    What goes on in Berea, stays in Berea...

    @tour2ma said:

    I keep telling y'all... That is the process. If a move is not at minimum accepted by all, then it is not made.

    Hue can cry his eyes out... Have his daughter speak to the press and the only thing she'll do is earn him a ticket out of town.

    What goes on in Berea, stays in Berea...

    Maybe somebody should explain to the brain trust how a trade works.

  • @domcucch1994 said:

    not if we throw money at him.. Money talks..

    5 year deal/ $120 million

    I know what you're saying and mean. It'd be nice. Any way you look at it, he gets a fat contract. Would he be willing to go to a team like us tho?

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    I know what you're saying and mean. It'd be nice. Any way you look at it, he gets a fat contract. Would he be willing to go to a team like us tho?

    It would be like marrying an unbearable woman if her father offered to set you up for life.

  • @stillmotion said:

    It's just an article, but hopefully the FO and coaches are getting along and the process is going better than we assume.

    I keep telling y'all... That is the process. If a move is not at minimum accepted by all, then it is not made.

    Hue can cry his eyes out... Have his daughter speak to the press and the only thing she'll do is earn him a ticket out of town.

    What goes on in Berea, stays in Berea...

    @tour2ma said:

    I keep telling y'all... That is the process. If a move is not at minimum accepted by all, then it is not made.

    Hue can cry his eyes out... Have his daughter speak to the press and the only thing she'll do is earn him a ticket out of town.

    What goes on in Berea, stays in Berea...

    Tour, It's true that Sashi would of protected the "process" by disobeying jimmy and sabotaging the trade, however he'd be directly disobeying his boss if he did that.

    If jimmy sided with Hue and went against process, it means he might've given up, and if jimmy gives up, the past two years would've been wasted.

    We have to get rid of either Hue or this F.O. I don't think they can coexist with Hue's daughter talking Sheet and coaches tweeting reporters.

    Jimmy is in panic mode.

  • @tour2ma said:

    I keep telling y'all... That is the process. If a move is not at minimum accepted by all, then it is not made.

    Hue can cry his eyes out... Have his daughter speak to the press and the only thing she'll do is earn him a ticket out of town.

    What goes on in Berea, stays in Berea...

    Tour, It's true that Sashi would of protected the "process" by disobeying jimmy and sabotaging the trade, however he'd be directly disobeying his boss if he did that.

    If jimmy sided with Hue and went against process, it means he might've given up, and if jimmy gives up, the past two years would've been wasted.

    We have to get rid of either Hue or this F.O. I don't think they can coexist with Hue's daughter talking Sheet and coaches tweeting reporters.

    Jimmy is in panic mode.

    @stillmotion said:

    Tour, It's true that Sashi would of protected the "process" by disobeying jimmy and sabotaging the trade, however he'd be directly disobeying his boss if he did that.

    If jimmy sided with Hue and went against process, it means he might've given up, and if jimmy gives up, the past two years would've been wasted.

    We have to get rid of either Hue or this F.O. I don't think they can coexist with Hue's daughter talking Sheet and coaches tweeting reporters.

    Jimmy is in panic mode.

    Or....both.  No?

  • @tour2ma said:

    I keep telling y'all... That is the process. If a move is not at minimum accepted by all, then it is not made.

    Hue can cry his eyes out... Have his daughter speak to the press and the only thing she'll do is earn him a ticket out of town.

    What goes on in Berea, stays in Berea...

    Tour, It's true that Sashi would of protected the "process" by disobeying jimmy and sabotaging the trade, however he'd be directly disobeying his boss if he did that.

    If jimmy sided with Hue and went against process, it means he might've given up, and if jimmy gives up, the past two years would've been wasted.

    We have to get rid of either Hue or this F.O. I don't think they can coexist with Hue's daughter talking Sheet and coaches tweeting reporters.

    Jimmy is in panic mode.

    @stillmotion said:

    Jimmy is in panic mode.

    And this is what makes a bad owner worse. Can't  stand the rebuild then you never should have backed it. Do the opposite and leave it f'n alone.

  • @tour2ma said:

    I keep telling y'all... That is the process. If a move is not at minimum accepted by all, then it is not made.

    Hue can cry his eyes out... Have his daughter speak to the press and the only thing she'll do is earn him a ticket out of town.

    What goes on in Berea, stays in Berea...

    Tour, It's true that Sashi would of protected the "process" by disobeying jimmy and sabotaging the trade, however he'd be directly disobeying his boss if he did that.

    If jimmy sided with Hue and went against process, it means he might've given up, and if jimmy gives up, the past two years would've been wasted.

    We have to get rid of either Hue or this F.O. I don't think they can coexist with Hue's daughter talking Sheet and coaches tweeting reporters.

    Jimmy is in panic mode.

    @stillmotion said:

    Tour, It's true that Sashi would of protected the "process" by disobeying jimmy and sabotaging the trade, however he'd be directly disobeying his boss if he did that.

    If jimmy sided with Hue and went against process, it means he might've given up, and if jimmy gives up, the past two years would've been wasted.

    We have to get rid of either Hue or this F.O. I don't think they can coexist with Hue's daughter talking Sheet and coaches tweeting reporters.

    Jimmy is in panic mode.

    I applaud Sashi for his stones if he told Jimmy to buzz off. 

    Wait wait. Lemme get this straight. If we fire everyone, then the last two years are wasted?

    NO WAY!!!!!! BRILLIANT!!!!!

    How do you live with such inconsistency?

    @texasag1969 said:

    And this is what makes a bad owner worse. Can't  stand the rebuild then you never should have backed it. Do the opposite and leave it f'n alone.

    Lol. The walking contradiction that is our fan base is hilarious. 

    “Cut Gabriel.”

    “What the heck, whyd you cut Gabriel?!”

    ”Fire everyone.”

    ”You pansy, I knew you couldn’t stick with the rebuild.”

    ”Start Kevin Hogan.”

    ”WAY TO RUIN KIZER’S CONFIDENCE, HUE!!!”

    The absolute lack of consistency and critical thinking is embarrassing.