Browns Coaching Staff to be fired, FO Likely Retained with addition of GM
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DePodesta has instructed the scouts to find the Browns the next Justin Verlander in the 2018 draft
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Who is getting shot? And when?
The men that spurred them on, that sit in judgement of all wrong.
When they decide.
Great phukking song!
The men that spurred them on, that sit in judgement of all wrong.
When they decide.
No....that is who is doing the shooting....not who is getting shot.
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The men that spurred them on, that sit in judgement of all wrong.
When they decide.
No....that is who is doing the shooting....not who is getting shot.
Without a specific lyric that I recall, I would say the establishment.
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This all just shows how important winning is. Not capital W Winning, as in making the playoffs every year ... the ultimate goal, but winning as in grabbing a game here and there while you are rebuilding.
Already people are talking about losing out and rooting for the 49ers ... and I want to punch them.
We need to win football games.
The coaches are pissed that the FO leaves at 5 PM and is not getting them players while they work their asses off. The veteran players are becoming numb to the losing and there is no "edge" to pass on to the younger players. The young players feel like they got drafted by a joke and are already looking for a way to get out. Jimmy will "Have to do something" and either the FO or the coaching staff will get fired ... or both.
They made a grave mistake in the offseason in my opinion of not trading for someone like Garrapollo that could take the reigns and win us a few games. They made the mistake of keeping us too thin throughout the roster.
I GET totally dismantling the team last year and the resulting 1-15. But you HAVE to go at least 4-12 or 5-11 the next year so that EVERYONE (FO, Coaches, Players ... and even fans) stays on board with the process.
Football is different than the NBA and MLB. You can't tank. The Sixers tanked to get talent, the Astros tanked to get talent .. and results are happening. But in the NFL, these guys are giving up their bodies for you every Sunday. They are risking their careers to play, their livelihoods, their family's livelihood. If they feel you're not trying to win the lockerroom becomes poisoned, the young guys get poisoned and you are forever rebuilding. The coaching staff becomes embittered, the front office becomes isolated and everyone is making plans for their next move instead of giving all for the team.
Last week we sent a struggling rookie QB out there and told him to throw to Ricardo Luis, Rashard Higgins, Sammie Coates, Bryce Treggs, Seth Devalve and rookie David Njoku ... and told him to win against the Vikings defense.
He can't win with those guys. We can't win with those guys. The coaches can't win with those guys, and the front office had plenty of money to go out and get us some guys ... so that we can win some games, build some momentum, have some hope, give the rookies and second year players some confidence and a taste of winning ... and they didn't do it.
Zombo
--Second round picks are not gold ... winning is gold ... and winning begets Winning.
Zombo said:
This all just shows how important winning is. Not capital W Winning, as in making the playoffs every year ... the ultimate goal, but winning as in grabbing a game here and there while you are rebuilding.
Already people are talking about losing out and rooting for the 49ers ... and I want to punch them.
We need to win football games.
The coaches are pissed that the FO leaves at 5 PM and is not getting them players while they work their asses off. The veteran players are becoming numb to the losing and there is no "edge" to pass on to the younger players. The young players feel like they got drafted by a joke and are already looking for a way to get out. Jimmy will "Have to do something" and either the FO or the coaching staff will get fired ... or both.
They made a grave mistake in the offseason in my opinion of not trading for someone like Garrapollo that could take the reigns and win us a few games. They made the mistake of keeping us too thin throughout the roster.
I GET totally dismantling the team last year and the resulting 1-15. But you HAVE to go at least 4-12 or 5-11 the next year so that EVERYONE (FO, Coaches, Players ... and even fans) stays on board with the process.
Football is different than the NBA and MLB. You can't tank. The Sixers tanked to get talent, the Astros tanked to get talent .. and results are happening. But in the NFL, these guys are giving up their bodies for you every Sunday. They are risking their careers to play, their livelihoods, their family's livelihood. If they feel you're not trying to win the lockerroom becomes poisoned, the young guys get poisoned and you are forever rebuilding. The coaching staff becomes embittered, the front office becomes isolated and everyone is making plans for their next move instead of giving all for the team.
Last week we sent a struggling rookie QB out there and told him to throw to Ricardo Luis, Rashard Higgins, Sammie Coates, Bryce Treggs, Seth Devalve and rookie David Njoku ... and told him to win against the Vikings defense.
He can't win with those guys. We can't win with those guys. The coaches can't win with those guys, and the front office had plenty of money to go out and get us some guys ... so that we can win some games, build some momentum, have some hope, give the rookies and second year players some confidence and a taste of winning ... and they didn't do it.
Zombo
--Second round picks are not gold ... winning is gold ... and winning begets Winning.
Then why has winning NEVER begotten winning in the last 20 years? We've had plenty of seasons like you're pining for since the team came back to absolutely no avail.
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Zombo said:
This all just shows how important winning is. Not capital W Winning, as in making the playoffs every year ... the ultimate goal, but winning as in grabbing a game here and there while you are rebuilding.
Already people are talking about losing out and rooting for the 49ers ... and I want to punch them.
We need to win football games.
The coaches are pissed that the FO leaves at 5 PM and is not getting them players while they work their asses off. The veteran players are becoming numb to the losing and there is no "edge" to pass on to the younger players. The young players feel like they got drafted by a joke and are already looking for a way to get out. Jimmy will "Have to do something" and either the FO or the coaching staff will get fired ... or both.
They made a grave mistake in the offseason in my opinion of not trading for someone like Garrapollo that could take the reigns and win us a few games. They made the mistake of keeping us too thin throughout the roster.
I GET totally dismantling the team last year and the resulting 1-15. But you HAVE to go at least 4-12 or 5-11 the next year so that EVERYONE (FO, Coaches, Players ... and even fans) stays on board with the process.
Football is different than the NBA and MLB. You can't tank. The Sixers tanked to get talent, the Astros tanked to get talent .. and results are happening. But in the NFL, these guys are giving up their bodies for you every Sunday. They are risking their careers to play, their livelihoods, their family's livelihood. If they feel you're not trying to win the lockerroom becomes poisoned, the young guys get poisoned and you are forever rebuilding. The coaching staff becomes embittered, the front office becomes isolated and everyone is making plans for their next move instead of giving all for the team.
Last week we sent a struggling rookie QB out there and told him to throw to Ricardo Luis, Rashard Higgins, Sammie Coates, Bryce Treggs, Seth Devalve and rookie David Njoku ... and told him to win against the Vikings defense.
He can't win with those guys. We can't win with those guys. The coaches can't win with those guys, and the front office had plenty of money to go out and get us some guys ... so that we can win some games, build some momentum, have some hope, give the rookies and second year players some confidence and a taste of winning ... and they didn't do it.
Zombo
--Second round picks are not gold ... winning is gold ... and winning begets Winning.
Then why has winning NEVER begotten winning in the last 20 years? We've had plenty of seasons like you're pining for since the team came back to absolutely no avail.
Then why has winning NEVER begotten winning in the last 20 years? We've had plenty of seasons like you're pining for since the team came back to absolutely no avail.
We have never stuck with a plan. I think only Butch Davis and Romeo Crennell got three years or more.
This is the first time we did a total reconstruction, and if we were even 2-6 with some semblance of a clue at QB, People wouldn't be talking about blowing it up already.
Z
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Then why has winning NEVER begotten winning in the last 20 years? We've had plenty of seasons like you're pining for since the team came back to absolutely no avail.
We have never stuck with a plan. I think only Butch Davis and Romeo Crennell got three years or more.
This is the first time we did a total reconstruction, and if we were even 2-6 with some semblance of a clue at QB, People wouldn't be talking about blowing it up already.
Z
Zombo said:
We have never stuck with a plan. I think only Butch Davis and Romeo Crennell got three years or more.
This is the first time we did a total reconstruction, and if we were even 2-6 with some semblance of a clue at QB, People wouldn't be talking about blowing it up already.
Z
Or even a couple of players that you could point to and say watch out for this guy, he's gonna be a star. Corey (I miss Braylon) Coleman just isn't cutting it around here.
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Then why has winning NEVER begotten winning in the last 20 years? We've had plenty of seasons like you're pining for since the team came back to absolutely no avail.
We have never stuck with a plan. I think only Butch Davis and Romeo Crennell got three years or more.
This is the first time we did a total reconstruction, and if we were even 2-6 with some semblance of a clue at QB, People wouldn't be talking about blowing it up already.
Z
Zombo said:
We have never stuck with a plan. I think only Butch Davis and Romeo Crennell got three years or more.
This is the first time we did a total reconstruction, and if we were even 2-6 with some semblance of a clue at QB, People wouldn't be talking about blowing it up already.
Z
Bingo. There should be a reasonable expectation of some extra wins. If the Browns ended the season with 3 wins, I would be happy. I didn't expect much. However, the Browns are set to go winless and the FO/head coach are a complete mess.
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So it is apparent that Hue is a Dead Coach Walking. Will he survive until the end of the season? Options are greater after other teams fire their coaches. Regular season finale is Dec 31 vs Pgh. Would be ironic if Hue had one win this year, against Pgh.
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Then why has winning NEVER begotten winning in the last 20 years? We've had plenty of seasons like you're pining for since the team came back to absolutely no avail.
We have never stuck with a plan. I think only Butch Davis and Romeo Crennell got three years or more.
This is the first time we did a total reconstruction, and if we were even 2-6 with some semblance of a clue at QB, People wouldn't be talking about blowing it up already.
Z
Zombo said:
We have never stuck with a plan. I think only Butch Davis and Romeo Crennell got three years or more.
This is the first time we did a total reconstruction, and if we were even 2-6 with some semblance of a clue at QB, People wouldn't be talking about blowing it up already.
Z
The mood around here in year 2 of Pettine was absolutely, positively, 100% NO different whatsoever than it is now. People wouldn’t be giving up already my arse.
Our fans have the shortest memory span of any people I’ve ever seen.
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Oddly enough I was in pettine's corner end of the 2015 season. I was however completely against Farmer being retained
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Homeless guy said for a bottle of Mad Dog, he will pick our QB next year.
I hope it's Electric Blue, good tailgate stuff lol
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Oddly enough I was in pettine's corner end of the 2015 season. I was however completely against Farmer being retained
Oddly enough I was in pettine's corner end of the 2015 season. I was however completely against Farmer being retained
I was always in Pets corner..... It was the moron idiots that brought JohnnypussyShmuckball to the organization and forced Pet's hand. I still like Pet, and Butch too if I'm being honest..... "Our guys played their guts out!"
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Oddly enough I was in pettine's corner end of the 2015 season. I was however completely against Farmer being retained
I was always in Pets corner..... It was the moron idiots that brought JohnnypussyShmuckball to the organization and forced Pet's hand. I still like Pet, and Butch too if I'm being honest..... "Our guys played their guts out!"
I was always in Pets corner..... It was the moron idiots that brought JohnnypussyShmuckball to the organization and forced Pet's hand. I still like Pet, and Butch too if I'm being honest..... "Our guys played their guts out!"
But mangini was the goat. dude had fire.
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But mangini was the goat. dude had fire.
..... and discipline too. Have you seen him lately? Dude needs to go vegan for a while!
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Zombo said:
We have never stuck with a plan. I think only Butch Davis and Romeo Crennell got three years or more.
This is the first time we did a total reconstruction, and if we were even 2-6 with some semblance of a clue at QB, People wouldn't be talking about blowing it up already.
Z
Bingo. There should be a reasonable expectation of some extra wins. If the Browns ended the season with 3 wins, I would be happy. I didn't expect much. However, the Browns are set to go winless and the FO/head coach are a complete mess.
Bingo. There should be a reasonable expectation of some extra wins. If the Browns ended the season with 3 wins, I would be happy. I didn't expect much. However, the Browns are set to go winless and the FO/head coach are a complete mess.
DING DING DING...................... DILDO ALERT.......DILDO ALERT.....................................
" We are never going to get better if we fire the people that have built 1 - 23. We must be patient. We must wait for the turds we planted to blossom into diamonds. It takes at least 473, 000 years to start winning.
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Bingo. There should be a reasonable expectation of some extra wins. If the Browns ended the season with 3 wins, I would be happy. I didn't expect much. However, the Browns are set to go winless and the FO/head coach are a complete mess.
DING DING DING...................... DILDO ALERT.......DILDO ALERT.....................................
" We are never going to get better if we fire the people that have built 1 - 23. We must be patient. We must wait for the turds we planted to blossom into diamonds. It takes at least 473, 000 years to start winning.
DING DING DING...................... DILDO ALERT.......DILDO ALERT.....................................
" We are never going to get better if we fire the people that have built 1 - 23. We must be patient. We must wait for the turds we planted to blossom into diamonds. It takes at least 473, 000 years to start winning.
as usual you're completely wrong.
It takes no more than 354,729 years to rebuild and win.
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This all just shows how important winning is. Not capital W Winning, as in making the playoffs every year ... the ultimate goal, but winning as in grabbing a game here and there while you are rebuilding.
Already people are talking about losing out and rooting for the 49ers ... and I want to punch them.
We need to win football games.
The coaches are pissed that the FO leaves at 5 PM and is not getting them players while they work their asses off. The veteran players are becoming numb to the losing and there is no "edge" to pass on to the younger players. The young players feel like they got drafted by a joke and are already looking for a way to get out. Jimmy will "Have to do something" and either the FO or the coaching staff will get fired ... or both.
They made a grave mistake in the offseason in my opinion of not trading for someone like Garrapollo that could take the reigns and win us a few games. They made the mistake of keeping us too thin throughout the roster.
I GET totally dismantling the team last year and the resulting 1-15. But you HAVE to go at least 4-12 or 5-11 the next year so that EVERYONE (FO, Coaches, Players ... and even fans) stays on board with the process.
Football is different than the NBA and MLB. You can't tank. The Sixers tanked to get talent, the Astros tanked to get talent .. and results are happening. But in the NFL, these guys are giving up their bodies for you every Sunday. They are risking their careers to play, their livelihoods, their family's livelihood. If they feel you're not trying to win the lockerroom becomes poisoned, the young guys get poisoned and you are forever rebuilding. The coaching staff becomes embittered, the front office becomes isolated and everyone is making plans for their next move instead of giving all for the team.
Last week we sent a struggling rookie QB out there and told him to throw to Ricardo Luis, Rashard Higgins, Sammie Coates, Bryce Treggs, Seth Devalve and rookie David Njoku ... and told him to win against the Vikings defense.
He can't win with those guys. We can't win with those guys. The coaches can't win with those guys, and the front office had plenty of money to go out and get us some guys ... so that we can win some games, build some momentum, have some hope, give the rookies and second year players some confidence and a taste of winning ... and they didn't do it.
Zombo
--Second round picks are not gold ... winning is gold ... and winning begets Winning.
Zombo said:
This all just shows how important winning is. Not capital W Winning, as in making the playoffs every year ... the ultimate goal, but winning as in grabbing a game here and there while you are rebuilding.
Already people are talking about losing out and rooting for the 49ers ... and I want to punch them.
We need to win football games.
The coaches are pissed that the FO leaves at 5 PM and is not getting them players while they work their asses off. The veteran players are becoming numb to the losing and there is no "edge" to pass on to the younger players. The young players feel like they got drafted by a joke and are already looking for a way to get out. Jimmy will "Have to do something" and either the FO or the coaching staff will get fired ... or both.
They made a grave mistake in the offseason in my opinion of not trading for someone like Garrapollo that could take the reigns and win us a few games. They made the mistake of keeping us too thin throughout the roster.
I GET totally dismantling the team last year and the resulting 1-15. But you HAVE to go at least 4-12 or 5-11 the next year so that EVERYONE (FO, Coaches, Players ... and even fans) stays on board with the process.
Football is different than the NBA and MLB. You can't tank. The Sixers tanked to get talent, the Astros tanked to get talent .. and results are happening. But in the NFL, these guys are giving up their bodies for you every Sunday. They are risking their careers to play, their livelihoods, their family's livelihood. If they feel you're not trying to win the lockerroom becomes poisoned, the young guys get poisoned and you are forever rebuilding. The coaching staff becomes embittered, the front office becomes isolated and everyone is making plans for their next move instead of giving all for the team.
Last week we sent a struggling rookie QB out there and told him to throw to Ricardo Luis, Rashard Higgins, Sammie Coates, Bryce Treggs, Seth Devalve and rookie David Njoku ... and told him to win against the Vikings defense.
He can't win with those guys. We can't win with those guys. The coaches can't win with those guys, and the front office had plenty of money to go out and get us some guys ... so that we can win some games, build some momentum, have some hope, give the rookies and second year players some confidence and a taste of winning ... and they didn't do it.
Zombo
--Second round picks are not gold ... winning is gold ... and winning begets Winning.
Post of the year, and just common sense. You DON'T need to suck as bad as the '70s Buccaneers to do a rebuild. We have tons of draft capital- and cap room. The FO just said to everyone with two communicating neurons- we're not upgrading the roster this year any further. So the message is just wait until 2018, we're going to kill it in the draft, and it will all be better. FWIW, living in Bungle Land, I didn't think McCarron was worth what the supposed draft pick price was. If I'm the Bengals, I make that trade in a heartbeat and laugh afterwards about how I fleeced the Browns.
I just can't envision any scenario where something isn't done to rectify the mess we're in.
So The Hoorta's solution? Get a guy in here that can evaluate college talent, bust Sashi back to doing contracts, (saw somewhere that behind the scenes he's an arrogant prick) tell Hue he needs an OC, and you just get a teeny little voice on which QB we're drafting next year- your track record is lousy in that regard. That a QB high is a given- the aborted McCarron deal threw Kizer under the bus.
You want something to hang your hat on to hope for? Gordon comes back with a vengeance and tears the league up in December.
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And Coleman? When is he due back?
(I see your forest green and I call with my army green)
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