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  • I am sure that GM also had some people in house who could ID talent. I don't think anyone has an issue with the idea of accumulating picks to acquire young talent. The IDing of the talent due to the lack of a good scouting dept is the problem. They got lots of swings and turned them into lots of misses.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    The IDing of the talent due to the lack of a good scouting dept is the problem. They got lots of swings and turned them into lots of misses.

    How can this be the case already, after 1.5 years?? 

    No way can that be judged at this time. And yes, I know what the record is. 

  • @mark-o said:

    Because theres no Shmucking way in hell this team is even a playoff contender in 2020 the way things are going.    Improvement and building is one thing.   From where I sit. This team isn't any better than last years team, not significantly enough to let these assclowns continue to make decisions.   They don't make  good decisions.  They pass on playmakers in order to get more future draft picks. 

    Even if you were right about that, which you’re not whatsoever, there is zero evidence that scrapping everything would produce better results. 

    @wargograw said:

    Even if you were right about that, which you’re not whatsoever, there is zero evidence that scrapping everything would produce better results. 

    How am I not right?  The team is 0-8.   That's not an improvement over last years 0-8 at the same point. 

  • @logicisforsquares said:

    The IDing of the talent due to the lack of a good scouting dept is the problem. They got lots of swings and turned them into lots of misses.

    How can this be the case already, after 1.5 years?? 

    No way can that be judged at this time. And yes, I know what the record is. 

    @londonbrown said:

    How can this be the case already, after 1.5 years?? 

    No way can that be judged at this time. And yes, I know what the record is. 

    The Browns are swimming in WR talent  after all of those picks spent on them. I mean, they could probably trade a few because they are unneeded.

    Sashi’s wife probably does the shopping so he doesn’t spend 80 bucks on moldy bread and spoiled milk.

  • @londonbrown said:

    How can this be the case already, after 1.5 years?? 

    No way can that be judged at this time. And yes, I know what the record is. 

    The Browns are swimming in WR talent  after all of those picks spent on them. I mean, they could probably trade a few because they are unneeded.

    Sashi’s wife probably does the shopping so he doesn’t spend 80 bucks on moldy bread and spoiled milk.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    The Browns are swimming in WR after all of those picks spent on them. I mean, they could probably trade a few because they are unneeded.

    Sashi’s wife probably does the shopping so he doesn’t spend 80 bucks on moldy bread and spoiled milk.

    Sashi probably keeps trading his wifes expensive bread to his neighbors everyday for fresher bread, then trading even more bread till he has an army of mediocre bread.

  • NO NO NO NO....you  DONT get it.

    The very nature of building a team in baseball and the nfl is different in just about every way.  it's apples and oranges.  Applying the 'moneyball' principles in baseball and the nfl look

    totally different.

  • NO NO NO NO....you  DONT get it.

    The very nature of building a team in baseball and the nfl is different in just about every way.  it's apples and oranges.  Applying the 'moneyball' principles in baseball and the nfl look

    totally different.

    @tacosman said:

    NO NO NO NO....you  DONT get it.

    The very nature of building a team in baseball and the nfl is different in just about every way.  it's apples and oranges.  Applying the 'moneyball' principles in baseball and the nfl look

    totally different.

    And no doubt that was the widely regarded opinion when analytics first entered baseball....

  • NO NO NO NO....you  DONT get it.

    The very nature of building a team in baseball and the nfl is different in just about every way.  it's apples and oranges.  Applying the 'moneyball' principles in baseball and the nfl look

    totally different.

    @tacosman said:

    NO NO NO NO....you  DONT get it.

    The very nature of building a team in baseball and the nfl is different in just about every way.  it's apples and oranges.  Applying the 'moneyball' principles in baseball and the nfl look

    totally different.

    Unless you can explain the exact reasons its different, you're just talking out of your butt.

  • @wargograw said:

    Don’t forget SI had a “meet your 2017 World Series champs” issue in 2014. They could do that for us with 2020 but none of you have the patience to see it through that far. 

    So instead, we can just pat ourselves on the back because we win 4 games/year. Sweet!

    And who did they say would be the 2017 WS champs back there in 2014?

    @the-gipper said:

    And who did they say would be the 2017 WS champs back there in 2014?

    Houston....

    @mark-o said:

    How am I not right?  The team is 0-8.   That's not an improvement over last years 0-8 at the same point. 

    So because they’re 0-8 now they won’t do anything in 2020? You really think that’s a logical case?

  • @the-gipper said:

    And who did they say would be the 2017 WS champs back there in 2014?

    Houston....

    @mark-o said:

    How am I not right?  The team is 0-8.   That's not an improvement over last years 0-8 at the same point. 

    So because they’re 0-8 now they won’t do anything in 2020? You really think that’s a logical case?

    @wargograw said:

    So because they’re 0-8 now they won’t do anything in 2020? You really think that’s a logical case?

    At the present rate of improvement??  No they won't.   1-15 last season has "improved" to 0-8 this season.   But according to you, we're supposed to be patient and trust the guys in the front office who keep missing on star players.  Got it.   So we should be patient and let Kizer keep playing.  Don't draft a QB next year.  He needs at least 3 years to prove that he is an inaccurate passer. 

  • @wargograw said:

    So because they’re 0-8 now they won’t do anything in 2020? You really think that’s a logical case?

    At the present rate of improvement??  No they won't.   1-15 last season has "improved" to 0-8 this season.   But according to you, we're supposed to be patient and trust the guys in the front office who keep missing on star players.  Got it.   So we should be patient and let Kizer keep playing.  Don't draft a QB next year.  He needs at least 3 years to prove that he is an inaccurate passer. 

    @mark-o said:

    At the present rate of improvement??  No they won't.   1-15 last season has "improved" to 0-8 this season.   But according to you, we're supposed to be patient and trust the guys in the front office who keep missing on star players.  Got it.   So we should be patient and let Kizer keep playing.  Don't draft a QB next year.  He needs at least 3 years to prove that he is an inaccurate passer. 

    You have no eye or mind for analysis whatsoever. Worthless discussion. 

  • @mark-o said:

    At the present rate of improvement??  No they won't.   1-15 last season has "improved" to 0-8 this season.   But according to you, we're supposed to be patient and trust the guys in the front office who keep missing on star players.  Got it.   So we should be patient and let Kizer keep playing.  Don't draft a QB next year.  He needs at least 3 years to prove that he is an inaccurate passer. 

    You have no eye or mind for analysis whatsoever. Worthless discussion. 

    @wargograw said:

    You have no eye or mind for analysis whatsoever. Worthless discussion. 

    0-8 is the only analysis that matters.   The team hasn't won a game yet this year.   Something has to be changed.

  • @wargograw said:

    You have no eye or mind for analysis whatsoever. Worthless discussion. 

    0-8 is the only analysis that matters.   The team hasn't won a game yet this year.   Something has to be changed.

    @mark-o said:

    0-8 is the only analysis that matters.   The team hasn't won a game yet this year.   Something has to be changed.

    Thanks for confirming. 

  • @mark-o said:

    0-8 is the only analysis that matters.   The team hasn't won a game yet this year.   Something has to be changed.

    Thanks for confirming. 

    @wargograw said:

    Thanks for confirming. 

    Confirming what?  That you're ok with a team that doesn't win?  That we should be happy because we have some nice gay stats that make some feel like the team is better when in the ONLY thing that matters in wins and losses is the team is 0-8

  • That you have no eye or mind for analysis whatsoever and this is a worthless discussion. 

  • @wargograw said:

    Thanks for confirming. 

    Confirming what?  That you're ok with a team that doesn't win?  That we should be happy because we have some nice gay stats that make some feel like the team is better when in the ONLY thing that matters in wins and losses is the team is 0-8

    @mark-o said:

    Confirming what?  That you're ok with a team that doesn't win?  That we should be happy because we have some nice gay stats that make some feel like the team is better when in the ONLY thing that matters in wins and losses is the team is 0-8

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  • @wargograw said:

    You have no eye or mind for analysis whatsoever. Worthless discussion. 

    0-8 is the only analysis that matters.   The team hasn't won a game yet this year.   Something has to be changed.

    @mark-o said:

    0-8 is the only analysis that matters.   

    The Houston Astros completely disagree with you. 

  • @wargograw said:

    So instead, we can just pat ourselves on the back because we win 4 games/year. Sweet!

    4 games a year? When will be that good again?

    @canton-dawg said:

    4 games a year? When will be that good again?

    At the pace the current regime is going, it would take six full seasons to win four games. 😆

  • Like comparing apples and onions.

  • @the-gipper said:

    And who did they say would be the 2017 WS champs back there in 2014?

    Houston....

    @mark-o said:

    How am I not right?  The team is 0-8.   That's not an improvement over last years 0-8 at the same point. 

    So because they’re 0-8 now they won’t do anything in 2020? You really think that’s a logical case?

    @wargograw said:

    Houston....

    So because they’re 0-8 now they won’t do anything in 2020? You really think that’s a logical case?

    Austin, the fag capital of Tx.

  • @canton-dawg said:

    4 games a year? When will be that good again?

    At the pace the current regime is going, it would take six full seasons to win four games. 😆

    @dutch-oven said:

    At the pace the current regime is going, it would take six full seasons to win four games. 😆

    Just think, I used to Bitch about only winning 4 games a year. ?