So this is it??
-
You can’t win this debate. Just give up. I’m lead by facts and logic and you’re led by emotion (like a woman). Just give it up. You’ll never be able to defend it.
you're led by facts? I've given you the facts.. He's averaging 2 catches a game. Here's another fact for you. The team hasn't won a game. But hey...lets keep trying the same thing over and over again.
you're led by facts? I've given you the facts.. He's averaging 2 catches a game. Here's another fact for you. The team hasn't won a game. But hey...lets keep trying the same thing over and over again.
You would blow a gasket trying to come up with a third though. And that’s why it’s worthless talking about this with you.
OJ Howard has 13 catches. Evan Engram has 30. And they both have quarterbacks. Njoku is fine for a rookie. But when your fans have no patience whatsoever and want to dump you overboard if you’re not Rob Gronkowski in year one, there’s not much you can do.
-
you're led by facts? I've given you the facts.. He's averaging 2 catches a game. Here's another fact for you. The team hasn't won a game. But hey...lets keep trying the same thing over and over again.
You would blow a gasket trying to come up with a third though. And that’s why it’s worthless talking about this with you.
OJ Howard has 13 catches. Evan Engram has 30. And they both have quarterbacks. Njoku is fine for a rookie. But when your fans have no patience whatsoever and want to dump you overboard if you’re not Rob Gronkowski in year one, there’s not much you can do.
You would blow a gasket trying to come up with a third though. And that’s why it’s worthless talking about this with you.
OJ Howard has 13 catches. Evan Engram has 30. And they both have quarterbacks. Njoku is fine for a rookie. But when your fans have no patience whatsoever and want to dump you overboard if you’re not Rob Gronkowski in year one, there’s not much you can do.
1 and fucking 23. Keep everything the same though. We shouldn't need any new players though either in your world. They all just need more time just like our front office needs 3 years to get it right.
-
Yep. As predicted. He tried to come up with a third. He blew the gasket. Realized he’s a doofus then went back to the first two. Way to walk right into it.
-
Yep. As predicted. He tried to come up with a third. He blew the gasket. Realized he’s a doofus then went back to the first two. Way to walk right into it.
Yep. As predicted. He tried to come up with a third. He blew the gasket. Realized he’s a doofus then went back to the first two. Way to walk right into it.
My gaskets are just fine. Why don't you point out all the great players we're supposed to be excited about that your precious front office has drafted for us in the last 2 years? You want more examples, these guys drafted Corey Coleman, how's he working out as a first round pick? Kessler, Kizer, Hogan??? But next year they'll figure out the QB who is good right? Next years draft is when they'll start trying to actually win games, in the meantime, spend your money on tickets and supporting the team while we suck at historic levels.
-
And for a lighter note. Carson Wentz, NFC player of the month. Deshone Watson, AFC player of the month
Isaac Asimov couldn't make this stuff up.
And for a lighter note. Carson Wentz, NFC player of the month. Deshone Watson, AFC player of the month
Isaac Asimov couldn't make this stuff up.
More like a Stephen King thing.
-
Njoku is 21 years old halfway through his first ever nfl season and he’s being written off already. I despair sometimes.
-
Njoku is 21 years old halfway through his first ever nfl season and he’s being written off already. I despair sometimes.
Njoku is 21 years old halfway through his first ever nfl season and he’s being written off already. I despair sometimes.
He shouldn't be written off and he shouldn't be praised as a genius pick. He can't even be evaluated correctly this early.
-
Njoku is 21 years old halfway through his first ever nfl season and he’s being written off already. I despair sometimes.
He shouldn't be written off and he shouldn't be praised as a genius pick. He can't even be evaluated correctly this early.
He can't even be evaluated correctly this early.
Absolutely right. And the same goes for th entire FO
-
He can't even be evaluated correctly this early.
Absolutely right. And the same goes for th entire FO
Absolutely right. And the same goes for th entire FO
The front office has had 2 drafts and has missed on high draft picks than it has hit on. That's why I question giving them a 3rd draft. They haven't proven that they are all that good at drafting to this point. They seem to enjoy trading down more than they do actually picking players. The injury today not withstanding, but when you have Deshaun Watson sitting there with the #12 pick in the draft and you're a team that has needed a QB for like 2 million years, you have to take that guy. Trading down is ridiculous at that point.
Njoku is 21 years old halfway through his first ever nfl season and he’s being written off already. I despair sometimes.
I wasn't writing him off so much as saying that you can't say he's a good player at this point. He's completely unproven and as a first round pick, 2 catches per game isn't all that impressive.
-
Absolutely right. And the same goes for th entire FO
The front office has had 2 drafts and has missed on high draft picks than it has hit on. That's why I question giving them a 3rd draft. They haven't proven that they are all that good at drafting to this point. They seem to enjoy trading down more than they do actually picking players. The injury today not withstanding, but when you have Deshaun Watson sitting there with the #12 pick in the draft and you're a team that has needed a QB for like 2 million years, you have to take that guy. Trading down is ridiculous at that point.
Njoku is 21 years old halfway through his first ever nfl season and he’s being written off already. I despair sometimes.
I wasn't writing him off so much as saying that you can't say he's a good player at this point. He's completely unproven and as a first round pick, 2 catches per game isn't all that impressive.
The front office has had 2 drafts and has missed on high draft picks than it has hit on. That's why I question giving them a 3rd draft. They haven't proven that they are all that good at drafting to this point. They seem to enjoy trading down more than they do actually picking players. The injury today not withstanding, but when you have Deshaun Watson sitting there with the #12 pick in the draft and you're a team that has needed a QB for like 2 million years, you have to take that guy. Trading down is ridiculous at that point.
As someone said, they enjoy playing Monopoly with these picks, players. They just prefer dealing than choosing.
I wasn't writing him off so much as saying that you can't say he's a good player at this point. He's completely unproven and as a first round pick, 2 catches per game isn't all that impressive.
-
Same old rehashed comments over and over. Booooooring
yeah we get it... we arent good. Move on.... nothing to see here.
Same old rehashed comments over and over. Booooooring
yeah we get it... we arent good. Move on.... nothing to see here.
I was going to start a thread that would say: We Suck, I'm Mad.....and state that like nearly all of the last 100 threads on this board were basically the same as what can be boiled down to 4 words..and that all the foofaraw that has gone on has added no more insight than that.
-
-
I seem to forget everybody clamoring over Deshaun Watson in April, saying how he's our future.
Hell if it was that obvious, we shouldve taken him #1.
Show me all those posts about Watson being a lock, franchise QB at 12... Ill wait...
-
I seem to forget everybody clamoring over Deshaun Watson in April, saying how he's our future.
Hell if it was that obvious, we shouldve taken him #1.
Show me all those posts about Watson being a lock, franchise QB at 12... Ill wait...
I seem to forget everybody clamoring over Deshaun Watson in April, saying how he's our future.
Hell if it was that obvious, we shouldve taken him #1.
Show me all those posts about Watson being a lock, franchise QB at 12... Ill wait...
Oh wait... here comes all the "I don't get paid to do this" idiocy...
-
Haven't we been rebuilding for like 10 years. Lol
@the-user-from-cleveland said:
Haven't we been rebuilding for like 10 years. Lol
This is the ultimate fallacy. The "old heads" around here keep thinking the mistakes of past regimes somehow should reflect on our current FO. That is a major error in thinking, driven by emotions rather than logic.
This rebuild has been less than 2 years in the making.
Ill agree with everybody that losing sucks, and 1-23 is embarrassing, but we eventually have to give somebody a chance. TBH I think Hue has a lot more to do with the record than Sashi and DePodesta. Look at what Bowles is doing with similar talent... It might be time for a new HC and OC but not a major teardown.
-
@the-user-from-cleveland said:
Haven't we been rebuilding for like 10 years. Lol
This is the ultimate fallacy. The "old heads" around here keep thinking the mistakes of past regimes somehow should reflect on our current FO. That is a major error in thinking, driven by emotions rather than logic.
This rebuild has been less than 2 years in the making.
Ill agree with everybody that losing sucks, and 1-23 is embarrassing, but we eventually have to give somebody a chance. TBH I think Hue has a lot more to do with the record than Sashi and DePodesta. Look at what Bowles is doing with similar talent... It might be time for a new HC and OC but not a major teardown.
This is the ultimate fallacy. The "old heads" around here keep thinking the mistakes of past regimes somehow should reflect on our current FO. That is a major error in thinking, driven by emotions rather than logic.
This rebuild has been less than 2 years in the making.
Ill agree with everybody that losing sucks, and 1-23 is embarrassing, but we eventually have to give somebody a chance. TBH I think Hue has a lot more to do with the record than Sashi and DePodesta. Look at what Bowles is doing with similar talent... It might be time for a new HC and OC but not a major teardown.
I think maybe more things were promised to Hue, and he's sick of losing. He obviously wanted to be successful, and every week and the podium for two years he has to get up there and be a loser. The F.O. values their minds and decisions over Hue's, and maybe they will end up being right, but having the F.O. and Hue report independently to Jimmy is definitely causing friction.
-
We need a good OC. Nothing more... nothing less.
He can come up with a gameplan that will cater to our talent and we can win some games
-
Even the best OC in the world can't win with Kizer. Although I agree with you in that we need an OC, what's he supposed to do with a young QB who's scared to throw it across the middle, can't deliver the ball in the red zone, and can't read a defense? We needed Garoppolo, we didn't get him. Now we need Kirk Cousins and he doesn't want to play for us (total shocker).
I can't wait to call our radio show and rip Nathan Zegura a new one after Josh and Corey are on the field and Kizer STILL stinks. Nathan continously says Kizer just needs weapons and I'm tired of listening to his excuses. With Josh and Corey, Kizer will have a legit #1 and #2, as well as backs that excel at catching the ball and tight ends who also have talent. Can't wait to hear his new excuses, and stay tuned for when I tear him apart on the radio show.
You know, if Thomas wasn't hurt I'd say we could probably win a few games with Kessler in at QB, but I'm not sure we can play him now because he just goes down so easily. But regardless, we're going to see Cody sooner than later, and it's just a matter of time as Hue fights to keep his job. I think our defense will keep us in the game for several weeks, and the temptation to win will be too much for Hue to resist trying everyone he can at QB. We'll have 3-4 games in the 2nd half of the season where it'll be a one score game at half time, and every game will be the same story: our defense keeps it close, while Kizer doesn't throw touchdowns. Hue Jackson will go to Kessler, but maybe, just maybe....Cody can do JUST enough to win a few. But mark this down....if....IF we do win a game (or maybe more than one! *gasp*) the QB playing at the end of the game WON'T be Kizer.
-
I tend to agree. Flattop doesn't have what it takes.
Hello! It looks like you're interested in this conversation, but you don't have an account yet.
Getting fed up of having to scroll through the same posts each visit? When you register for an account, you'll always come back to exactly where you were before, and choose to be notified of new replies (either via email, or push notification). You'll also be able to save bookmarks and upvote posts to show your appreciation to other community members.
With your input, this post could be even better 💗
Register Login