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Pay raise for Joe Thomas

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  • @d-bone said:

    Good for Joe..... If there's any Browns v2.0 player that deserves this, it's Joe. 

    That would be an interesting question to ask everyone: Who are the best five players to play for the Browns since '99?

    Thomas is obviously #1, Phil Dawson is on that list.... then it gets interesting.

    @dutch-oven said:

    Thomas is obviously #1, Phil Dawson is on that list.... then it gets interesting.

    JT,Dawson,Joe Haden,Alex Mack,Cameron Jordan(or reverse),D'qwell Jackson 

  • For me in order: Couch, Cribbs, D'Qwell, JT, Dawson 

  • Ghoolie’s head may explode.

    @canton-dawg said:

    Ghoolie’s head may explode.

    Why would my head explode? This fauking team is 1 -23 under this logic, the FO and coaching staff are at odds, we just saw a scrub play LT pretty much as well as JT did, and with JT facing rehab and collecting Social Security benefits............these a$$holes focus on THIS meaningless bullschidt?

    Hey, who am I to stop self deprecating behavior. Hell, man, give him Haslams pay scale for all I care. Hell, fire everyone and just send Joe Thomas out on the field.

    Joe THomas,  Joe Tomas,  Joe Thomas.............................. That's what the Browns need to do to keep the rebuild going as well as it has............focus on a lard ayus.

    Fauhking idiots.

  • Why?

    Joe wouldn't leave for a winner last year during the trade deadline what makes management think he's walking anytime soon?  Or do the Browns just like to overpay players for no reason, smh.  Sorry you got hurt Joe here's another $5 million we aren't going to spend it on talent anyway.

    @baconhound said:

    Why?

    Joe wouldn't leave for a winner last year during the trade deadline what makes management think he's walking anytime soon?  Or do the Browns just like to overpay players for no reason, smh.  Sorry you got hurt Joe here's another $5 million we aren't going to spend it on talent anyway.

     When criticizing this FO, at least make an attempt to be somewhat within the real of reality. 

  • I would add Cribbs in that Convo.. He still bleeds Cleveland...

  • PR move

  • Looks like he is about the only player to get a raise too. Things must not be going so well in Berea if the only player to get a raise is your best one and he's s on IR. 

    At least our big$ QB gets to play today.

  • @baconhound said:

    Why?

    Joe wouldn't leave for a winner last year during the trade deadline what makes management think he's walking anytime soon?  Or do the Browns just like to overpay players for no reason, smh.  Sorry you got hurt Joe here's another $5 million we aren't going to spend it on talent anyway.

     When criticizing this FO, at least make an attempt to be somewhat within the real of reality. 

    @wargograw said:

     When criticizing this FO, at least make an attempt to be somewhat within the real of reality. 

    Sorry $3.  Completely under contract for next season with no discussion of him leaving Cleveland.  The Patriots would not have made this move.  The NFL is a cruel business with no room for sentiment, unless you're a Browns fan.

  • @baconhound said:

    $4 million is a top 30 safety in the NFL

    tell this to the rookie QB's blindside JT's protecting..what trade interest was shown in JT last 2 seasons? last i read was Farmer to Denver?  

    @gumby73 said:

    tell this to the rookie QB's blindside JT's protecting..what trade interest was shown in JT last 2 seasons? last i read was Farmer to Denver?  

    There have been teams reported to have interest.

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-trade-deadline-rumors-heres-what-the-browns-want-for-star-tackle-joe-thomas/

    My point is Joe isn't actively saying he wants out.  He has made in known several times he wants to stay in Cleveland.  If he has said to management, "I expect my bonuses or I'm walking" I'm fine with the team paying him but make that known.  Sashi can walk up to the mic and say Joe Thomas asked to be the highest paid O-Lineman and based on his past performance in Cleveland we decided to make it happen.  The Browns would be one of the few, if not only, NFL team to pay a player for past performance but hey guys can feel great about wearing their Thomas jersey.

  • PR move

    @mld-woody said:

    PR move

    Maybe somewhat or an (unspoken) admission of how bad this organization both past and present has screwed up since 1999 despite adequate opportunities to draft high and get it right.

  • PR move

    @mld-woody said:

    PR move

    I tend to agree but if that's the case what does that say about us as fans.  Successful NFL teams have treated talent horribly in the name of winning and their fan base seems ok with it.  In recent memory the Pats and Eagles come to mind.

  • Most excellent...

    How many years?

    @tour2ma said:

    Most excellent...

    How many years?

    no additional years.  Not my money so I dont care.

  • @wargograw said:

     When criticizing this FO, at least make an attempt to be somewhat within the real of reality. 

    Sorry $3.  Completely under contract for next season with no discussion of him leaving Cleveland.  The Patriots would not have made this move.  The NFL is a cruel business with no room for sentiment, unless you're a Browns fan.

    @baconhound said:

    Sorry $3.  Completely under contract for next season with no discussion of him leaving Cleveland.  The Patriots would not have made this move.  The NFL is a cruel business with no room for sentiment, unless you're a Browns fan.

    You said “do the Browns simply overpay players for no reason? Smh.” Despite the fact that this FO has been nails with contracts, trades, and player valuations. 

  • @baconhound said:

    Sorry $3.  Completely under contract for next season with no discussion of him leaving Cleveland.  The Patriots would not have made this move.  The NFL is a cruel business with no room for sentiment, unless you're a Browns fan.

    You said “do the Browns simply overpay players for no reason? Smh.” Despite the fact that this FO has been nails with contracts, trades, and player valuations. 

    @wargograw said:

    Despite the fact that this FO has been nails with contracts, trades, and player valuations. 

    Contracts...yep, trades...yep, player evaluations...just no.

  • PR move

    @mld-woody said:

    PR move

    Definitely, and an enticement to come back for one more year... 

    @baconhound said:

    Sorry $3.  Completely under contract for next season with no discussion of him leaving Cleveland.  The Patriots would not have made this move.  The NFL is a cruel business with no room for sentiment, unless you're a Browns fan.

    He's in the last year (2018) of his contract, so no big deal IMHO. Hardball comes in 2019. Consider it a "lifetime achievement award". We have tons of cap room to afford it- but you have to wonder why give Joe the raise and not keep the other Joe (Haden) around?  

    https://overthecap.com/calculator/cleveland-browns/ 

  • @wargograw said:

     When criticizing this FO, at least make an attempt to be somewhat within the real of reality. 

    Sorry $3.  Completely under contract for next season with no discussion of him leaving Cleveland.  The Patriots would not have made this move.  The NFL is a cruel business with no room for sentiment, unless you're a Browns fan.

    @baconhound said:

    Sorry $3.  Completely under contract for next season with no discussion of him leaving Cleveland.  The Patriots would not have made this move.  The NFL is a cruel business with no room for sentiment, unless you're a Browns fan.

    CORRECTAMUNDO. Belichik would have traded Thomas, ESPECIALLY since we have a low cost scrub who just demonstrated he can do the job just as well.

  • @baconhound said:

    Sorry $3.  Completely under contract for next season with no discussion of him leaving Cleveland.  The Patriots would not have made this move.  The NFL is a cruel business with no room for sentiment, unless you're a Browns fan.

    You said “do the Browns simply overpay players for no reason? Smh.” Despite the fact that this FO has been nails with contracts, trades, and player valuations. 

    @wargograw said:

    You said “do the Browns simply overpay players for no reason? Smh.” Despite the fact that this FO has been nails with contracts, trades, and player valuations. 

    Overpaid Collins and possibly Taylor but I get the fact if they want talent they may have to pay a bit more than market to retain or bring it in.  Unless there is something they are disclosing about Thomas this was throwing money away or as someone else pointed out a lifetime achievement.  Paying players for past performance in the NFL is not good business.

  • @wargograw said:

    You said “do the Browns simply overpay players for no reason? Smh.” Despite the fact that this FO has been nails with contracts, trades, and player valuations. 

    Overpaid Collins and possibly Taylor but I get the fact if they want talent they may have to pay a bit more than market to retain or bring it in.  Unless there is something they are disclosing about Thomas this was throwing money away or as someone else pointed out a lifetime achievement.  Paying players for past performance in the NFL is not good business.

    @baconhound said:

    Overpaid Collins and possibly Taylor but I get the fact if they want talent they may have to pay a bit more than market to retain or bring it in.  Unless there is something they are disclosing about Thomas this was throwing money away or as someone else pointed out a lifetime achievement.  Paying players for past performance in the NFL is not good business.

    It was a PR move.

  • @baconhound said:

    Sorry $3.  Completely under contract for next season with no discussion of him leaving Cleveland.  The Patriots would not have made this move.  The NFL is a cruel business with no room for sentiment, unless you're a Browns fan.

    You said “do the Browns simply overpay players for no reason? Smh.” Despite the fact that this FO has been nails with contracts, trades, and player valuations. 

    @wargograw said:

    You said “do the Browns simply overpay players for no reason? Smh.” Despite the fact that this FO has been nails with contracts, trades, and player valuations. 

    http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/media-center/videos/Sashi-Brown-We-can-always-get-better-and-look-to-get-better/0cab1d5a-d35b-4c38-b86c-f9241d7cf6bc

    Look at his demeanor.  He is calm, cool and collected acting like the team is in a good position for success.  He's smiling throughout the schit show.  His job's safe regardless of the misses he's made.  If a McDonald's worker forgets the sauce for Mcnuggets they get torn a new one, this clown has looked like a fool and no one acts raises an eyebrow.

    "We are going to make progress moving forward" Browns mantra since 1999.

    What gets me is his lack of accountability or taking responsibility, fuking hilarious

  • @wargograw said:

    You said “do the Browns simply overpay players for no reason? Smh.” Despite the fact that this FO has been nails with contracts, trades, and player valuations. 

    http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/media-center/videos/Sashi-Brown-We-can-always-get-better-and-look-to-get-better/0cab1d5a-d35b-4c38-b86c-f9241d7cf6bc

    Look at his demeanor.  He is calm, cool and collected acting like the team is in a good position for success.  He's smiling throughout the schit show.  His job's safe regardless of the misses he's made.  If a McDonald's worker forgets the sauce for Mcnuggets they get torn a new one, this clown has looked like a fool and no one acts raises an eyebrow.

    "We are going to make progress moving forward" Browns mantra since 1999.

    What gets me is his lack of accountability or taking responsibility, fuking hilarious

    @baconhound said:

    http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/media-center/videos/Sashi-Brown-We-can-always-get-better-and-look-to-get-better/0cab1d5a-d35b-4c38-b86c-f9241d7cf6bc

    Look at his demeanor.  He is calm, cool and collected acting like the team is in a good position for success.  He's smiling throughout the schit show.  His job's safe regardless of the misses he's made.  If a McDonald's worker forgets the sauce for Mcnuggets they get torn a new one, this clown has looked like a fool and no one acts raises an eyebrow.

    "We are going to make progress"

    obviously they can't get worse Sashi. Setting the bar this low means obvious we'll make progress.