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    @stillmotion said:

    In my opinion, Barkley is the most talented player coming out of the draft. Sashi said he didn't want to reach for a QB, and I currently believe at this moment, Rosen, D'Arnold, Allen, Jackson or any other QB would be a reach at #1 

    Hopefully the signing of Cousins makes taking yet another QB in the 1st round a non factor......  

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    @d-bone said:

    Hopefully the signing of Cousins makes taking yet another QB in the 1st round a non factor......  

    Would you consider an Alex Smith if we can't sign Cousins?

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      @stillmotion said:

      In my opinion, Barkley is the most talented player coming out of the draft. Sashi said he didn't want to reach for a QB, and I currently believe at this moment, Rosen, D'Arnold, Allen, Jackson or any other QB would be a reach at #1 

      Hopefully the signing of Cousins makes taking yet another QB in the 1st round a non factor......  

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      @d-bone said:

      Hopefully the signing of Cousins makes taking yet another QB in the 1st round a non factor......  

      Cousins, Barkley, and Baker Mayfield to sit and learn a couple years baby!

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        @d-bone said:

        Hopefully the signing of Cousins makes taking yet another QB in the 1st round a non factor......  

        Would you consider an Alex Smith if we can't sign Cousins?

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        D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by
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        @mark-o said:

        Would you consider an Alex Smith if we can't sign Cousins?

        Absolfreakinutely....... 

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          @mark-o said:

          Would you consider an Alex Smith if we can't sign Cousins?

          Absolfreakinutely....... 

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          @d-bone said:

          Absolfreakinutely....... 

          @mark-o said:

          Would you consider an Alex Smith if we can't sign Cousins?

          Smith is the quintessential game manager

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            @d-bone said:

            Absolfreakinutely....... 

            @mark-o said:

            Would you consider an Alex Smith if we can't sign Cousins?

            Smith is the quintessential game manager

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            @stillmotion said:

            Smith is the quintessential game manager

            True...but would you take him if he's available?  Either via trade of free agency?

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              @stillmotion said:

              Smith is the quintessential game manager

              True...but would you take him if he's available?  Either via trade of free agency?

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              stillmotionS stillmotion wrote on last edited by
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              @mark-o said:

              True...but would you take him if he's available?  Either via trade of free agency?

              If we can draft a younger guy and get Smith or Cousins i'd be game. 

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                tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                Aside from what was possibly the easiest kick return of his life against one of the worst special teams units in the country, what way did Barkley "explode" against the Bucks?!   Was it the whopping 2.1ypc?!  Holy Sheet, that's elite!

                Also, Shmuck fan pressure and most of our fans.  I watched the lot cheer for the Johnny pick.   If you yield to fan pressure in the draft on questionable players while 99% of NFL fans have zero idea what they're talking about, then this FO needs to be tossed for other reasons. 

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                  Aside from what was possibly the easiest kick return of his life against one of the worst special teams units in the country, what way did Barkley "explode" against the Bucks?!   Was it the whopping 2.1ypc?!  Holy Sheet, that's elite!

                  Also, Shmuck fan pressure and most of our fans.  I watched the lot cheer for the Johnny pick.   If you yield to fan pressure in the draft on questionable players while 99% of NFL fans have zero idea what they're talking about, then this FO needs to be tossed for other reasons. 

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                  stillmotionS stillmotion wrote on last edited by stillmotion
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                  @tiamat63 said:

                  Aside from what was possibly the easiest kick return of his life against one of the worst special teams units in the country, what way did Barkley "explode" against the Bucks?!   Was it the whopping 2.1ypc?!  Holy Sheet, that's elite!

                  Also, Shmuck fan pressure and most of our fans.  I watched the lot cheer for the Johnny pick.   If you yield to fan pressure in the draft on questionable players while 99% of NFL fans have zero idea what they're talking about, then this FO needs to be tossed for other reasons. 

                  who do you want to pick then einstein. i wanted jimmy g, not johnny. haslam is the one who wanted johnny, the fans didn't beg him to pick him. quit comparing people from this years draft to people of the past. every player has a different story, and that's Sheet logic.

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                    @tiamat63 said:

                    Aside from what was possibly the easiest kick return of his life against one of the worst special teams units in the country, what way did Barkley "explode" against the Bucks?!   Was it the whopping 2.1ypc?!  Holy Sheet, that's elite!

                    Also, Shmuck fan pressure and most of our fans.  I watched the lot cheer for the Johnny pick.   If you yield to fan pressure in the draft on questionable players while 99% of NFL fans have zero idea what they're talking about, then this FO needs to be tossed for other reasons. 

                    who do you want to pick then einstein. i wanted jimmy g, not johnny. haslam is the one who wanted johnny, the fans didn't beg him to pick him. quit comparing people from this years draft to people of the past. every player has a different story, and that's Sheet logic.

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                    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                    @stillmotion said:

                    who do you want to pick then einstein. i wanted jimmy g, not johnny. haslam is the one who wanted johnny, the fans didn't beg him to pick him. quit comparing people from this years draft to people of the past. every player has a different story, and that's Sheet logic.

                    Oh, no.  You want 'X' player.   If you're the one offering up suggestions, I'm well and right to say hell no without offering my own.  Because one of us realizes how early it is in the process and that this might be a pretty weak draft. 

                    Also, comparing players is called a benchmark and usually a damn good idea.  Helps give a feel for seeing how certain playing styles can mesh and translate to the NFL.

                    Just FYI, my logic is sound. Yours is horseshit.  "He's a leader rarrrarrrr"...    you've got to be kidding. 

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                      T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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                      Drew Brees will also be a FA. He would be a great bridge to a new draftee and win us games in the process so everyone could keep their jobs.

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                        Drew Brees will also be a FA. He would be a great bridge to a new draftee and win us games in the process so everyone could keep their jobs.

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                        @texasag1969 said:

                        Drew Brees will also be a FA. He would be a great bridge to a new draftee and win us games in the process so everyone could keep their jobs.

                        I don't see him ever leaving New Orleans, plus he's pretty old. 

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                          Drew Brees will also be a FA. He would be a great bridge to a new draftee and win us games in the process so everyone could keep their jobs.

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                          @texasag1969 said:

                          Drew Brees will also be a FA. He would be a great bridge to a new draftee and win us games in the process so everyone could keep their jobs.

                          Well, he's having 24 millions in a single year contract, and is difficult to cut an established player's salary, so I don't see this FO building that bridge, and I doubt Drew would consider it. At his age you just play for the ring.

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                            @westside-steve said:

                            On the other hand.....

                            Baker Mayfield gets first-round grade in NFL Draft projection

                            https://search.app.goo.gl/5qWZ

                            Shared from my Google feed

                            Mayfield and Barkley is a Shmucking no brainer.

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                            The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                            @stillmotion said:

                            Mayfield and Barkley is a Shmucking no brainer.

                            Yes....I am looking forward greatly to the second coming of Johnny Manziel and Trent Richardson.  We have missed them around here. We haven't had that feeling here since 1969.

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                              @stillmotion said:

                              who do you want to pick then einstein. i wanted jimmy g, not johnny. haslam is the one who wanted johnny, the fans didn't beg him to pick him. quit comparing people from this years draft to people of the past. every player has a different story, and that's Sheet logic.

                              Oh, no.  You want 'X' player.   If you're the one offering up suggestions, I'm well and right to say hell no without offering my own.  Because one of us realizes how early it is in the process and that this might be a pretty weak draft. 

                              Also, comparing players is called a benchmark and usually a damn good idea.  Helps give a feel for seeing how certain playing styles can mesh and translate to the NFL.

                              Just FYI, my logic is sound. Yours is horseshit.  "He's a leader rarrrarrrr"...    you've got to be kidding. 

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                              stillmotionS stillmotion wrote on last edited by
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                              @tiamat63 said:

                              Oh, no.  You want 'X' player.   If you're the one offering up suggestions, I'm well and right to say hell no without offering my own.  Because one of us realizes how early it is in the process and that this might be a pretty weak draft. 

                              Also, comparing players is called a benchmark and usually a damn good idea.  Helps give a feel for seeing how certain playing styles can mesh and translate to the NFL.

                              Just FYI, my logic is sound. Yours is horseshit.  "He's a leader rarrrarrrr"...    you've got to be kidding. 

                              He's front in the race for the heisman, is demolishing everyone, and looking like an NFL ready quarterback. Your opinion is so weak you don't even have anyone you like in the draft or an argument on why we should draft them. Yeah, it's so early in the process we should give Sashi and Hue another ten years to pick a quarterback.

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                                @tiamat63 said:

                                Oh, no.  You want 'X' player.   If you're the one offering up suggestions, I'm well and right to say hell no without offering my own.  Because one of us realizes how early it is in the process and that this might be a pretty weak draft. 

                                Also, comparing players is called a benchmark and usually a damn good idea.  Helps give a feel for seeing how certain playing styles can mesh and translate to the NFL.

                                Just FYI, my logic is sound. Yours is horseshit.  "He's a leader rarrrarrrr"...    you've got to be kidding. 

                                He's front in the race for the heisman, is demolishing everyone, and looking like an NFL ready quarterback. Your opinion is so weak you don't even have anyone you like in the draft or an argument on why we should draft them. Yeah, it's so early in the process we should give Sashi and Hue another ten years to pick a quarterback.

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                                tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by tiamat63
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                                @stillmotion said:

                                He's front in the race for the heisman, is demolishing everyone, and looking like an NFL ready quarterback. Your opinion is so weak you don't even have anyone you like in the draft or an argument on why we should draft them. Yeah, it's so early in the process we should give Sashi and Hue another ten years to pick a quarterback.

                                Still haven't seen you post a single trait that makes Baker NFL ready other than you saying "HEISMAN!!!!!".

                                I'd still like you to show me evidence of reads or do you even watch the prospects you talk about?  Because right now I'm leaning towards the latter.   

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                                  @d-bone said:

                                  Got to wait and see how the rest of the season, the combine and the draft unfolds... Nobody knows what will happen. It's very possible that both, one or neither will be there with our second 1st round pick. 

                                  Time will tell. 

                                  In my opinion, Barkley is the most talented player coming out of the draft. Sashi said he didn't want to reach for a QB, and I currently believe at this moment, Rosen, D'Arnold, Allen, Jackson or any other QB would be a reach at #1 

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                                  @stillmotion said:

                                  In my opinion, Barkley is the most talented player coming out of the draft. Sashi said he didn't want to reach for a QB, and I currently believe at this moment, Rosen, D'Arnold, Allen, Jackson or any other QB would be a reach at #1 

                                  Barkley's terrible. You've yet to refute his terrible running stats against good (and some bad) teams.

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                                    Barkley isnt terrible. Teams stack the box on him. He's a better pure runner than even zeke was and we see what zeke has done. That being said we cant pass on a qb this year.

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                                      @stillmotion said:

                                      In my opinion, Barkley is the most talented player coming out of the draft. Sashi said he didn't want to reach for a QB, and I currently believe at this moment, Rosen, D'Arnold, Allen, Jackson or any other QB would be a reach at #1 

                                      Barkley's terrible. You've yet to refute his terrible running stats against good (and some bad) teams.

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                                      @wargograw said:

                                      Barkley's terrible. You've yet to refute his terrible running stats against good (and some bad) teams.

                                      Most teams stack the box against him to try and shut him down. He's a player coming out of the draft I like, and I think he can run as well as anything. Stats aren't the bible, and he has a 5.7 ypc average this year.

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                                        @d-bone said:

                                        Hopefully the signing of Cousins makes taking yet another QB in the 1st round a non factor......  

                                        Would you consider an Alex Smith if we can't sign Cousins?

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                                        @mark-o said:

                                        Would you consider an Alex Smith if we can't sign Cousins?

                                        Personally I don't really like either one.

                                        I don't know that they would but if the Jets go quarterback with their first pick and cut Josh McCown I would pick him up. We should have kept him in the first place and let him tutor a top rated quarterback. That will be the job of the veteran no matter who we get. I have no idea why people are so enamored with Kirk Cousins.

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                                          I don't want Barkley with the #1 or 2 overall pick, but to say he's horrible is hilarious. He's very talented as a runner, receiver and returner, and teams are selling out completely to stop him, just daring McSorley to beat them.

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