Josh Gordon
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Serious question. No snark, no assholery, just a simple, honest question.
What, in Josh Gordon's history since his first days at Baylor, makes anyone here think that he will get through the coming offseason without some sort of "incident"?
Serious question. No snark, no assholery...just a simple honest question: What difference does it make? We have not had him for like 2.5 years. So...has anyone really been counting on his return? (besides PoG?) If we get something out of him...we get something. If we get nothing...well...that is the same we have gotten for the past 2.5 years....so we will really be no worse off.
Lets put it this way: I do NOT think that by Gordon coming back...even if he plays those last 5 games fairly well.....that this team should still not consider taking a top notch WR in the draft next year.
Serious question. No snark, no assholery...just a simple honest question: What difference does it make? We have not had him for like 2.5 years. So...has anyone really been counting on his return? (besides PoG?) If we get something out of him...we get something. If we get nothing...well...that is the same we have gotten for the past 2.5 years....so we will really be no worse off.
Lets put it this way: I do NOT think that by Gordon coming back...even if he plays those last 5 games fairly well.....that this team should still not consider taking a top notch WR in the draft next year.
Agreed. Whether ir works or doesn't, WR is a must.
But finding a player who can work as a good WR2 is easier than finding a WR1, and if Josh is back to his level we are in the first case scenario, which is a huge difference.
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It's a fair point. I don't count on a single thing from him, this year or especially next. Do I WANT him to play well? Heck yes. The trickle down effect from his presence could mean the world to us, if only we had a QB. The problem is, Kizer continuously missed our crappy receivers when THEY were open in the red zone, so why would he make good passes to legit WR's? In theory, Gordon could really help us because the opposition's #1 CB will match up on Gordon (who can't cover him anyways, regardless of how long Gordon has been out), and then Corey Coleman will draw a lesser CB. We'll have WR's to extend the field, so teams won't be able to just play run. Maybe the middle of the field could be opened up for our talented, young TE's. So much can change by adding just ONE legitimate playmaker on offense, especially one like Gordon who can get deep and run any other pattern.
But again, the problem is Kizer. So what if the middle of the field is open? Kizer can't pass to that area anyway. So what if Gordon or Coleman are open down the field? When is the last time Kizer completed a deep ball? The one to Ricardo Louis for 31 yards? Besides that, I can't think of one. If we're lucky enough to actually get Gordon and Coleman back on the field together, don't be surprised to see Cody Kessler starting at QB. If we can give Cody enough time to throw, and we can run the ball at least A LITTLE, I could see Cody maybe pulling out a victory or two. I firmly believe he'll give us a better shot than Kizer, that's for sure.
Here's what really hurts: How much does our offense change if we had Jimmy Garoppolo, Corey Coleman, and Josh Gordon on the field with Njoku, Devalve, Duke, and Crow? It actually looks like a real offense....one that we won't ever get to see. I realize we never had a chance for Garoppolo because the Pats wanted Hoyer as a backup, but still...it's another example of "what could've been".
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Plus 3 Gip-we need a WR that can get open AND catch the ball, talents that seem to have eluded ours this year. We just can't count on JG. It may be past history, but history is often predictive.
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Plus 3 Gip-we need a WR that can get open AND catch the ball, talents that seem to have eluded ours this year. We just can't count on JG. It may be past history, but history is often predictive.
Plus 3 Gip-we need a WR that can get open AND catch the ball, talents that seem to have eluded ours this year. We just can't count on JG. It may be past history, but history is often predictive.
Can't believe how much interest this thread has got, shows how bad the Browns need any warm bodies that might be able to catch a football or maybe stretch the field......it's really hurting the young QBs.
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One thing that concerns me is the speculation that Josh is trying to get out of Cleveland by saying things like using drugs before every game. In worried we'll just cut him because of the backlash.
One thing that concerns me is the speculation that Josh is trying to get out of Cleveland by saying things like using drugs before every game. In worried we'll just cut him because of the backlash.
Ha- we tried trading for AJ McCarron. Right now Hue is so desperate for wins, no way they're dumping Josh. What would worry me is if Gordon returns to his old form Trader Sashi would unload him for a first round pick.
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One thing that concerns me is the speculation that Josh is trying to get out of Cleveland by saying things like using drugs before every game. In worried we'll just cut him because of the backlash.
Ha- we tried trading for AJ McCarron. Right now Hue is so desperate for wins, no way they're dumping Josh. What would worry me is if Gordon returns to his old form Trader Sashi would unload him for a first round pick.
Ha- we tried trading for AJ McCarron. Right now Hue is so desperate for wins, no way they're dumping Josh. What would worry me is if Gordon returns to his old form Trader Sashi would unload him for a first round pick.
Well....I would probably make that deal....all things considered. (particularly the risk that comes with Gordon)
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Stay clean josh, please?
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Serious question. No snark, no assholery, just a simple, honest question.
What, in Josh Gordon's history since his first days at Baylor, makes anyone here think that he will get through the coming offseason without some sort of "incident"?
Serious question. No snark, no assholery...just a simple honest question: What difference does it make? We have not had him for like 2.5 years. So...has anyone really been counting on his return? (besides PoG?) If we get something out of him...we get something. If we get nothing...well...that is the same we have gotten for the past 2.5 years....so we will really be no worse off.
Lets put it this way: I do NOT think that by Gordon coming back...even if he plays those last 5 games fairly well.....that this team should still not consider taking a top notch WR in the draft next year.
Serious question. No snark, no assholery...just a simple honest question: What difference does it make? We have not had him for like 2.5 years. So...has anyone really been counting on his return? (besides PoG?) If we get something out of him...we get something. If we get nothing...well...that is the same we have gotten for the past 2.5 years....so we will really be no worse off.
Lets put it this way: I do NOT think that by Gordon coming back...even if he plays those last 5 games fairly well.....that this team should still not consider taking a top notch WR in the draft next year.
Well, judging from the 14 pages of this thread, it makes a huge difference to many people on this board. I think it is worth pointing out that when he had his one big season the Browns won a grand total of 4 games. Personally, I don't think he will make much of a difference for the Browns on the field for the simple reason that we don't have a quarterback who can get him the ball. And no, I don't have any confidence that he's going to get through the offseason without fukking up.
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This was posted in the Josh Gordon thread earlier.
That is true and he's still a freak.
.....The 26-year-old wideout has created a brand around being Flash, even using a lightning bolt as a logo in homage to the sci-fi comic hero.
If he did indeed run the reported 4.3, he’s shaved two-tenths of a second off his time since his pro day workout back in 2012:
Browns fans can’t help but get excited about the potential Gordon brings to the underwhelming passing offense once he returns in two weeks...... -
Serious question. No snark, no assholery...just a simple honest question: What difference does it make? We have not had him for like 2.5 years. So...has anyone really been counting on his return? (besides PoG?) If we get something out of him...we get something. If we get nothing...well...that is the same we have gotten for the past 2.5 years....so we will really be no worse off.
Lets put it this way: I do NOT think that by Gordon coming back...even if he plays those last 5 games fairly well.....that this team should still not consider taking a top notch WR in the draft next year.
Well, judging from the 14 pages of this thread, it makes a huge difference to many people on this board. I think it is worth pointing out that when he had his one big season the Browns won a grand total of 4 games. Personally, I don't think he will make much of a difference for the Browns on the field for the simple reason that we don't have a quarterback who can get him the ball. And no, I don't have any confidence that he's going to get through the offseason without fukking up.
Well, judging from the 14 pages of this thread, it makes a huge difference to many people on this board. I think it is worth pointing out that when he had his one big season the Browns won a grand total of 4 games. Personally, I don't think he will make much of a difference for the Browns on the field for the simple reason that we don't have a quarterback who can get him the ball. And no, I don't have any confidence that he's going to get through the offseason without fukking up.
Hey you never know maybe they might win a close one with him......besides he probably needs the money, eh?
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Serious question. No snark, no assholery...just a simple honest question: What difference does it make? We have not had him for like 2.5 years. So...has anyone really been counting on his return? (besides PoG?) If we get something out of him...we get something. If we get nothing...well...that is the same we have gotten for the past 2.5 years....so we will really be no worse off.
Lets put it this way: I do NOT think that by Gordon coming back...even if he plays those last 5 games fairly well.....that this team should still not consider taking a top notch WR in the draft next year.
Well, judging from the 14 pages of this thread, it makes a huge difference to many people on this board. I think it is worth pointing out that when he had his one big season the Browns won a grand total of 4 games. Personally, I don't think he will make much of a difference for the Browns on the field for the simple reason that we don't have a quarterback who can get him the ball. And no, I don't have any confidence that he's going to get through the offseason without fukking up.
Well, judging from the 14 pages of this thread, it makes a huge difference to many people on this board. I think it is worth pointing out that when he had his one big season the Browns won a grand total of 4 games. Personally, I don't think he will make much of a difference for the Browns on the field for the simple reason that we don't have a quarterback who can get him the ball. And no, I don't have any confidence that he's going to get through the offseason without fukking up.
Yea, but who did we have throwing to him when he was setting NFL records for receiving? Hoyer and Weeden maybe?
Were Hoyer and Weeden much, if any, of an upgrade from what we have now?
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One thing that concerns me is the speculation that Josh is trying to get out of Cleveland by saying things like using drugs before every game. In worried we'll just cut him because of the backlash.
Ha- we tried trading for AJ McCarron. Right now Hue is so desperate for wins, no way they're dumping Josh. What would worry me is if Gordon returns to his old form Trader Sashi would unload him for a first round pick.
Ha- we tried trading for AJ McCarron. Right now Hue is so desperate for wins, no way they're dumping Josh. What would worry me is if Gordon returns to his old form Trader Sashi would unload him for a first round pick.
If someone offered the Browns a first round pick for Josh Gordon a GM would be certifiably insane NOT to take it.
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Ha- we tried trading for AJ McCarron. Right now Hue is so desperate for wins, no way they're dumping Josh. What would worry me is if Gordon returns to his old form Trader Sashi would unload him for a first round pick.
If someone offered the Browns a first round pick for Josh Gordon a GM would be certifiably insane NOT to take it.
If someone offered the Browns a first round pick for Josh Gordon a GM would be certifiably insane NOT to take it.
To quote the late, great MLK, "I have a dream!"....My dream is that we fire Ryan Grigson, he accepts a GM position elsewhere & offers us a 1st for Gordon. What the hell, he gave us a 1st for Trent!!!!
Mike
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Ha- we tried trading for AJ McCarron. Right now Hue is so desperate for wins, no way they're dumping Josh. What would worry me is if Gordon returns to his old form Trader Sashi would unload him for a first round pick.
If someone offered the Browns a first round pick for Josh Gordon a GM would be certifiably insane NOT to take it.
Mucking around- I found most of Gordon's interview with GQ- it's an interesting read. https://www.gq.com/story/josh-gordon-nfl-2017-interview?mbid=social_twitter
If someone offered the Browns a first round pick for Josh Gordon a GM would be certifiably insane NOT to take it.
So we can take another Corey Coleman with the pick?
Ghoolie is still POed we gifted Julio Jones to Atlanta. MHO? A clean Gordon returning to his 1,600 yard form is at least on Julio's level.
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Mucking around- I found most of Gordon's interview with GQ- it's an interesting read. https://www.gq.com/story/josh-gordon-nfl-2017-interview?mbid=social_twitter
If someone offered the Browns a first round pick for Josh Gordon a GM would be certifiably insane NOT to take it.
So we can take another Corey Coleman with the pick?
Ghoolie is still POed we gifted Julio Jones to Atlanta. MHO? A clean Gordon returning to his 1,600 yard form is at least on Julio's level.
Mucking around- I found most of Gordon's interview with GQ- it's an interesting read. https://www.gq.com/story/josh-gordon-nfl-2017-interview?mbid=social_twitter
So we can take another Corey Coleman with the pick?
Ghoolie is still POed we gifted Julio Jones to Atlanta. MHO? A clean Gordon returning to his 1,600 yard form is at least on Julio's level.
I would like the chances someone of value would be taken with that hypothetical 1st rounder better than Josh Gordon staying clean and remaining on the field for an extended time.
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