"With the First Pick of the 2018 Draft, the Browns Select..."
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I find it interesting that CBS has the WR Washington rated as the best in class, but walterfootball has him rated 16th best and 3rd round at best. Major discrepancy there.
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I'll be tuned in Ag. & besides if you're scouting- Saturday 4PM EST FOX USC- Colorado (Darnold). 8PM EST FOX Oklahoma- TCU (Mayfield). Next Saturday you get a double whammy- USC- UCLA Darnold vs Rosen. Break out the Doritos and beer.
Since I think those two are the best on the field, I'll record that USC-UCLA game.
Since I think those two are the best on the field, I'll record that USC-UCLA game.
Welcome to the dark side! Once you go Pac 12, you'll never go back .
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Since I think those two are the best on the field, I'll record that USC-UCLA game.
Welcome to the dark side! Once you go Pac 12, you'll never go back .
Welcome to the dark side! Once you go Pac 12, you'll never go back .
Nah-I called Dak from NFL, Jr. (SEC).
BTW-A&M RS Fr. Starkel had over 400 yd. passing and 4 TDs 21of 30 against N.M. in one half. Far cry better than that QB from Wyoming against the same team. Passes were on the money even when dropped. Two intentionally thrown away. J. Allen is a joke. He needs to really show against a weak AF defense tonight.
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the bs mountain gets higher and higher. You can't draft freshmen, Ag. Allen btw, did get hurt - that happens when
the oline is not competitive, and wr's aren't the best. Wyoming already had a three TD lead.
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the bs mountain gets higher and higher. You can't draft freshmen, Ag. Allen btw, did get hurt - that happens when
the oline is not competitive, and wr's aren't the best. Wyoming already had a three TD lead.
the bs mountain gets higher and higher. You can't draft freshmen, Ag. Allen btw, did get hurt - that happens when
the oline is not competitive, and wr's aren't the best. Wyoming already had a three TD lead.
I was just fooling around with the RS freshman, though he did demonstrate superior progressions and an accurate arm with the ability to get it downfield. Maybe 2019 when he becomes eligible. BTW he is the one that got us the huge lead against UCLA before breaking an ankle at the end of the 1st half. The true freshman just could not move the team and disaster ensued.
I did see the injury to Allen on the double pass play in the 1st half and wondered why his coach didn't catch it right away. Shoulder separation maybe?
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Allen showed serious toughness, but you are correct - he wasn't moving his arm, yet stayed in the game. He loves the game alright - but I thought when he took that big hit, and wasn't moving his arm, the coach would bring him to the sidelines. Allen covered it up the best he could, but after one more pass that went feebly to the ground, it was over. One of his faults is trying to make every single pass play a great play.
But comparing stats is bullhockey. Starkel may very well be a star prospect later. But he has Christian Kirk, who I think will be the new Antonio Brown, something like him anyways. Kirk will surely go in the first round of the draft. Allen doesn't have anyone like that, not even close. He also has Keith Ford - Allen doesn't have that either.
The last 3-4? years, Tex AM has had three offensive linemen selected in the first round of the NFL draft. Right now, though, I can't say they have a solid oline, but Kirk helps with that. I just don't get comparing offensive stats and using that as a solid indicator of the quality of the qb.
Therefore, Starkel has a dynamic, outstanding wr to throw to. Allen - doesn't have that.
As an aside, Ridley, for Alabama...had 5 receptions for a freaking 171 yards. I like Ridley and Kirk as a second pick overall
for the Browns. They are both what the Browns don't have at all. and need, desperately.
and speaking of qb's, First Look has some interesting perspectives on some players:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000814722/article/first-look-scouting-wyoming-qb-josh-allen
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1st pick? His initials are "QB".
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
1st pick? His initials are "QB".
That would be a gutsy move. Taking a QB in the first round seals the fate of the front office either way.
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That would be a gutsy move. Taking a QB in the first round seals the fate of the front office either way.
Just steer clear of taking one #22 overall.
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That would be a gutsy move. Taking a QB in the first round seals the fate of the front office either way.
So would passing over another QB who was worth the pick.
Saw real hope for Kizer today. Still some time left in the season to verify.
I can still see spending a high pick, acquiring a vet via trade or FA , e.g. Alex Smith, and keeping Kizer.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
That would be a gutsy move. Taking a QB in the first round seals the fate of the front office either way.
So would passing over another QB who was worth the pick.
Saw real hope for Kizer today. Still some time left in the season to verify.
I can still see spending a high pick, acquiring a vet via trade or FA , e.g. Alex Smith, and keeping Kizer.
So would passing over another QB who was worth the pick.
Saw real hope for Kizer today. Still some time left in the season to verify.
I can still see spending a high pick, acquiring a vet via trade or FA , e.g. Alex Smith, and keeping Kizer.
They've been able to pass on talented players with zero consequences thus far.
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So would passing over another QB who was worth the pick.
Saw real hope for Kizer today. Still some time left in the season to verify.
I can still see spending a high pick, acquiring a vet via trade or FA , e.g. Alex Smith, and keeping Kizer.
They've been able to pass on talented players with zero consequences thus far.
They've been able to pass on talented players with zero consequences thus far.
One, you don't know that. There has been turnover in the scouting department.
But assuming you are correct, patience and the simple fact that no FO is perfect only buys so much time.
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Every year the pundits say that the upcoming draft doesn't have the talent that previous drafts had. Mark Miller from BR claims this draft is the 2nd worse in the last 10 years, ahead of only the 2013 draft. Personally, I'm not impressed with Darnold, Rosen or Mayfield. I haven't seen enough of Josh Allen to have an opinion.
Despite a perceived lack of quality at the QB position, the likelihood is that - because of need - as many as six QBs get taken in the first round. If that is indeed the case and the Browns are drafting 1st and 7th (Houston's pick) I'd be fine with taking Derwin James, Safety out of FSU and arguably the best player in the draft, and then taking a QB with the 7th pick. If the Browns have a definite favorite at QB, trade up to take him 2nd or 3rd.
This doesn't guarantee that the QB position would be solved for the Browns, but it would probably guarantee that the Browns' defense has its safeties for the next five years.
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They've been able to pass on talented players with zero consequences thus far.
One, you don't know that. There has been turnover in the scouting department.
But assuming you are correct, patience and the simple fact that no FO is perfect only buys so much time.
One, you don't know that. There has been turnover in the scouting department.
But assuming you are correct, patience and the simple fact that no FO is perfect only buys so much time.
I know they could've drafted Mack, Bosa, Wentz or Watson and chose not to.
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I know they could've drafted Mack, Bosa, Wentz or Watson and chose not to.
Mack is not in the Sashi time frame.... so there's that. But for the record, I wanted him, too... badly. I could not believe he fell to us.
As for Bosa, Wentz and Watson.... I had questions about all them, so I guess I am fired as well. However, there was no consensus on here for any of them prior to their Drafts. It has only formed in hindsight.
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I know they could've drafted Mack, Bosa, Wentz or Watson and chose not to.
Mack is not in the Sashi time frame.... so there's that. But for the record, I wanted him, too... badly. I could not believe he fell to us.
As for Bosa, Wentz and Watson.... I had questions about all them, so I guess I am fired as well. However, there was no consensus on here for any of them prior to their Drafts. It has only formed in hindsight.
Mack is not in the Sashi time frame.... so there's that. But for the record, I wanted him, too... badly. I could not believe he fell to us.
As for Bosa, Wentz and Watson.... I had questions about all them, so I guess I am fired as well. However, there was no consensus on here for any of them prior to their Drafts. It has only formed in hindsight.
My bad on Mack.
Unfortunately for as much tape as you watch you shouldn't be as qualified to make draft decisions as the front office of an NFL team. The front office is evaluated on players they select and players they don't. There is a huge difference between the Browns passing on Dak & Wilson and allowing Philly to move up to take Wentz or Houston to move up and take Watson.
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Mack is not in the Sashi time frame.... so there's that. But for the record, I wanted him, too... badly. I could not believe he fell to us.
As for Bosa, Wentz and Watson.... I had questions about all them, so I guess I am fired as well. However, there was no consensus on here for any of them prior to their Drafts. It has only formed in hindsight.
My bad on Mack.
Unfortunately for as much tape as you watch you shouldn't be as qualified to make draft decisions as the front office of an NFL team. The front office is evaluated on players they select and players they don't. There is a huge difference between the Browns passing on Dak & Wilson and allowing Philly to move up to take Wentz or Houston to move up and take Watson.
My bad on Mack.
Unfortunately for as much tape as you watch you shouldn't be as qualified to make draft decisions as the front office of an NFL team. The front office is evaluated on players they select and players they don't. There is a huge difference between the Browns passing on Dak & Wilson and allowing Philly to move up to take Wentz or Houston to move up and take Watson.
Well... you are right of course about the amount of tape I watch. While I think it's pretty high for an amateur, it's nothing compared to what I'd see were doing so was my profession. That said... where I chose to specialize, an area of positions where I have at least a limited playing background, the OL, I think my takes, which often run counter to mainstream thinking, stack up pretty well with the Pros. Problem is there is a very limited number of folks who want to discuss the OL to any depth, so I branch out for conversation to QBs, RBs, etc.
Scouts tend to positionally "specialize" as well, but not to the extent that they are blind to any kid catching their eye.
Please explain your "huge difference". I honestly do not see it. Spotting/ missing talent at any position in any round seems like the same process to me. The stakes are higher the earlier in the draft you are picking, raising the required certainty level... but that's the game isn't it?
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