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  • The problem in european soccer is, as there is no cap salary (I envy NFL for that), if the owner of your team is an association, or a billionaire, makes a huge difference in the team and therefore the competition. 

    For instance, my home team, Osasuna, is owned by the fans, and we don't have a millionaire inverting on it, so it is pretty difficult for a team located in a region with 500,000 inhabitants to even stay in Spanish Primera Division. There are other teams with more numerous fanbases or with more investors and that affects the competition. 

    Anyway, there's a proud feeling of having a team owned by the fans. 

  • The problem in european soccer is, as there is no cap salary (I envy NFL for that), if the owner of your team is an association, or a billionaire, makes a huge difference in the team and therefore the competition. 

    For instance, my home team, Osasuna, is owned by the fans, and we don't have a millionaire inverting on it, so it is pretty difficult for a team located in a region with 500,000 inhabitants to even stay in Spanish Primera Division. There are other teams with more numerous fanbases or with more investors and that affects the competition. 

    Anyway, there's a proud feeling of having a team owned by the fans. 

    @nero said:

    The problem in european soccer is, as there is no cap salary (I envy NFL for that), if the owner of your team is an association, or a billionaire, makes a huge difference in the team and therefore the competition. 

    For instance, my home team, Osasuna, is owned by the fans, and we don't have a milliona ire inverting on it, so it is pretty difficult for a team located in a region with 500,000 inhabitants to even stay in Spanish Primera Division. There are other teams with more numerous fanbases or with more investors and that affects the competition. 

    Anyway, there's a proud feeling of having a team owned by the fans. 

    Salary caps a good necessary "evil" in sports, without them you end up with the NY YANKEE$. 😆

    ALSO of the 32 NFL teams 17 show ownership after 2000 and only 5 excluding GB before 1990......new money or at least new financing. 

    Rich people have always owned sports teams, race horses, sailing ships why? Because they are the only ones that can. 😕

  • The problem in european soccer is, as there is no cap salary (I envy NFL for that), if the owner of your team is an association, or a billionaire, makes a huge difference in the team and therefore the competition. 

    For instance, my home team, Osasuna, is owned by the fans, and we don't have a millionaire inverting on it, so it is pretty difficult for a team located in a region with 500,000 inhabitants to even stay in Spanish Primera Division. There are other teams with more numerous fanbases or with more investors and that affects the competition. 

    Anyway, there's a proud feeling of having a team owned by the fans. 

    @nero said:

    The problem in european soccer is, as there is no cap salary (I envy NFL for that), if the owner of your team is an association, or a billionaire, makes a huge difference in the team and therefore the competition. 

    For instance, my home team, Osasuna, is owned by the fans, and we don't have a millionaire inverting on it, so it is pretty difficult for a team located in a region with 500,000 inhabitants to even stay in Spanish Primera Division. There are other teams with more numerous fanbases or with more investors and that affects the competition. 

    Anyway, there's a proud feeling of having a team owned by the fans. 

    The ONLY NFL team that has that distinction is the Green Bay Packers.  In fact, the league now has a rule against having a community owned franchise. The NFL wants only greedy rich people with profit motivation to own their teams. Its a fact.  (and FYI...the salary cap is instituted to guarantee that each of these greedy owners makes a lot of money. But...on the other hand, most fans feel that is good nevertheless because it promotes parity....and avoids the situation just as you state:  that only the wealthy, big market teams take all the good players and all the titles.

    But, here is an interesting phenomena:   The one league that does NOT have a salary cap is baseball.  Yet, it is baseball that has had about the most parity of any of the sports. 

    I would have to check on whether any of the other teams in the other leagues are essentially "community owned"....but I doubt that they are.

  • I found interesting when I saw on your first post that GB was owned by the fans, which I already knew, BUT that it also was founded in 1923... Osasuna was founded in 1920, lol.

    In Spanish League, anyway, I just recall Real Madrid, Barcelona, Athletic Club de Bilbao and Osasuna. Maybe there are more, but those ones have been a constant mention at least in Primera Division.

  • I found interesting when I saw on your first post that GB was owned by the fans, which I already knew, BUT that it also was founded in 1923... Osasuna was founded in 1920, lol.

    In Spanish League, anyway, I just recall Real Madrid, Barcelona, Athletic Club de Bilbao and Osasuna. Maybe there are more, but those ones have been a constant mention at least in Primera Division.

    @nero said:

    I found interesting when I saw on your first post that GB was owned by the fans, which I already knew, BUT that it also was founded in 1923... Osasuna was founded in 1920, lol.

    In Spanish League, anyway, I just recall Real Madrid, Barcelona, Athletic Club de Bilbao and Osasuna. Maybe there are more, but those ones have been a constant mention at least in Primera Division.

    The Packers actually go back further than 1923.   They were a "club" team prior to that for years.  The NFL formed in 1920. The Packers joined a year later in 1921.  (only the Bears and the Cardinals are original 1920 current NFL teams).  That 1923 date may have been when there was some corporate reorganization or something.)

  • Curious question:     What ever happened to Ted Turner?

    At one time he owned the Atlanta Braves, the Atlanta Hawks, and the Atlanta NHL team....that eventually moved to Winnipeg.  He must have moved on from owning sports teams.

  • Curious question:     What ever happened to Ted Turner?

    At one time he owned the Atlanta Braves, the Atlanta Hawks, and the Atlanta NHL team....that eventually moved to Winnipeg.  He must have moved on from owning sports teams.

    @the-gipper said:

    Curious question:     What ever happened to Ted Turner?

    At one time he owned the Atlanta Braves, the Atlanta Hawks, and the Atlanta NHL team....that eventually moved to Winnipeg.  He must have moved on from owning sports teams.

    He's still around but gone for a decade (+/-) from the Braves, strange dude but I'm forever thankful for TCM which I'm watching now.

  • @nero said:

    The problem in european soccer is, as there is no cap salary (I envy NFL for that), if the owner of your team is an association, or a billionaire, makes a huge difference in the team and therefore the competition. 

    For instance, my home team, Osasuna, is owned by the fans, and we don't have a millionaire inverting on it, so it is pretty difficult for a team located in a region with 500,000 inhabitants to even stay in Spanish Primera Division. There are other teams with more numerous fanbases or with more investors and that affects the competition. 

    Anyway, there's a proud feeling of having a team owned by the fans. 

    The ONLY NFL team that has that distinction is the Green Bay Packers.  In fact, the league now has a rule against having a community owned franchise. The NFL wants only greedy rich people with profit motivation to own their teams. Its a fact.  (and FYI...the salary cap is instituted to guarantee that each of these greedy owners makes a lot of money. But...on the other hand, most fans feel that is good nevertheless because it promotes parity....and avoids the situation just as you state:  that only the wealthy, big market teams take all the good players and all the titles.

    But, here is an interesting phenomena:   The one league that does NOT have a salary cap is baseball.  Yet, it is baseball that has had about the most parity of any of the sports. 

    I would have to check on whether any of the other teams in the other leagues are essentially "community owned"....but I doubt that they are.

    @the-gipper said:

    The ONLY NFL team that has that distinction is the Green Bay Packers.  In fact, the league now has a rule against having a community owned franchise. The NFL wants only greedy rich people with profit motivation to own their teams. Its a fact.  (and FYI...the salary cap is instituted to guarantee that each of these greedy owners makes a lot of money. But...on the other hand, most fans feel that is good nevertheless because it promotes parity....and avoids the situation just as you state:  that only the wealthy, big market teams take all the good players and all the titles.

    But, here is an interesting phenomena:   The one league that does NOT have a salary cap is baseball.  Yet, it is baseball that has had about the most parity of any of the sports. 

    I would have to check on whether any of the other teams in the other leagues are essentially "community owned"....but I doubt that they are.

    MLB is a bit different especially with their farm system expenses compare with the NFL, NBA but you GENERALLY still want to be in the upper echelon of payrolls to be competitive  (FORBES opening day payroll, not after the in season dumps):

    Rk '17Team2017 PayrollRk '162016 Payroll% +/-1

    Dodgers$225,553,0871$234,648,955-3.9%2

    Tigers$199,750,6003$195,901,4812.0%3

    Yankees$195,282,0582$225,228,650-13.3%4

    Giants$181,514,4315$173,203,2784.8%5

    Red Sox$178,818,0524$190,377,215-6.1%6

    Cubs$176,872,3126$170,266,5983.9%7

    Rangers$173,114,7308$149,338,55315.9%8

    Nationals$164,591,08810$147,084,54611.9%9

    Orioles$164,261,2999$147,894,71311.1%10

    Angels$164,050,8337$166,285,8331.3%11

    Mets$155,641,37913$138,871,05712.1%12

    Mariners$154,157,72012$142,323,2908.3%13

    Cardinals$150,380,00011$144,596,0004.0%14

    Royals$145,925,25015$137,318,4776.3%15

    BlueJays$143,941,10014$138,063,2284.3%16

    Rockies$127,943,57117$113,244,57113.0%17

    Braves$126,079,52422$95,371,64832.2%18

    Indians$125,808,02927$87,196,40044.3%19

    Astros$122,407,23323$94,058,50030.1%20

    Marlins$120,191,29728$74,851,29560.6%21Phillies$111,868,37825$91,852,16721.8%22Twins$104,837,50018$104,083,7000.7%23W. Sox$100,054,93716$115,248,667-13.2%24DBacks$93,180,49921$97,266,463-4.2%25Reds$93,026,28624$92,732,3030.3%26Pirates$91,499,17220$98,780,500-7.4%27Athletics$81,738,33426$87,326,233-6.4%28Rays$71,351,61129$67,291,0086.0%29Padres$61,411,78919$102,381,219-40.0%30Brewers$60,810,09030$59,843,4361.6%

  • @nero said:

    The problem in european soccer is, as there is no cap salary (I envy NFL for that), if the owner of your team is an association, or a billionaire, makes a huge difference in the team and therefore the competition. 

    For instance, my home team, Osasuna, is owned by the fans, and we don't have a milliona ire inverting on it, so it is pretty difficult for a team located in a region with 500,000 inhabitants to even stay in Spanish Primera Division. There are other teams with more numerous fanbases or with more investors and that affects the competition. 

    Anyway, there's a proud feeling of having a team owned by the fans. 

    Salary caps a good necessary "evil" in sports, without them you end up with the NY YANKEE$. 😆

    ALSO of the 32 NFL teams 17 show ownership after 2000 and only 5 excluding GB before 1990......new money or at least new financing. 

    Rich people have always owned sports teams, race horses, sailing ships why? Because they are the only ones that can. 😕

    @mjp28 said:

    Salary caps a good necessary "evil" in sports, without them you end up with the NY YANKEE$. 😆

    ALSO of the 32 NFL teams 17 show ownership after 2000 and only 5 excluding GB before 1990......new money or at least new financing. 

    Rich people have always owned sports teams, race horses, sailing ships why? Because they are the only ones that can. 😕

    Wasn't Ted Stepien the reason that a salary cap was invented to begin with?

  • @mjp28 said:

    Salary caps a good necessary "evil" in sports, without them you end up with the NY YANKEE$. 😆

    ALSO of the 32 NFL teams 17 show ownership after 2000 and only 5 excluding GB before 1990......new money or at least new financing. 

    Rich people have always owned sports teams, race horses, sailing ships why? Because they are the only ones that can. 😕

    Wasn't Ted Stepien the reason that a salary cap was invented to begin with?

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    Wasn't Ted Stepien the reason that a salary cap was invented to begin with?

    No.   I don't think so. He was responsible for the "Stepian rule", which as far as I know is still in place.  That rule says that an NBA team may not trade more than one of its future first round draft picks in a row.   Stepian had traded like 4-5 of the Cavs future draft picks in like one year....and only picking up a bunch of mediocre at best players....the likes of Scott Wedman etc.   (how is that for a blast from the past?)

  • @flyingfooldoug said:

    Wasn't Ted Stepien the reason that a salary cap was invented to begin with?

    No.   I don't think so. He was responsible for the "Stepian rule", which as far as I know is still in place.  That rule says that an NBA team may not trade more than one of its future first round draft picks in a row.   Stepian had traded like 4-5 of the Cavs future draft picks in like one year....and only picking up a bunch of mediocre at best players....the likes of Scott Wedman etc.   (how is that for a blast from the past?)

    @the-gipper said:

    No.   I don't think so. He was responsible for the "Stepian rule", which as far as I know is still in place.  That rule says that an NBA team may not trade more than one of its future first round draft picks in a row.   Stepian had traded like 4-5 of the Cavs future draft picks in like one year....and only picking up a bunch of mediocre at best players....the likes of Scott Wedman etc.   (how is that for a blast from the past?)

    I thought he started way overpaying for players like W B Free. Been awhile tho. 

  • @the-gipper said:

    No.   I don't think so. He was responsible for the "Stepian rule", which as far as I know is still in place.  That rule says that an NBA team may not trade more than one of its future first round draft picks in a row.   Stepian had traded like 4-5 of the Cavs future draft picks in like one year....and only picking up a bunch of mediocre at best players....the likes of Scott Wedman etc.   (how is that for a blast from the past?)

    I thought he started way overpaying for players like W B Free. Been awhile tho. 

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    I thought he started way overpaying for players like W B Free. Been awhile tho. 

    He didn't overpay for World B. Free.  World B. Free may have saved this franchise.   No....it was for the fact that he stripped the club of any future in return for a handful of magic beans....that were inert.

  • @flyingfooldoug said:

    I thought he started way overpaying for players like W B Free. Been awhile tho. 

    He didn't overpay for World B. Free.  World B. Free may have saved this franchise.   No....it was for the fact that he stripped the club of any future in return for a handful of magic beans....that were inert.

    @the-gipper said:

    He didn't overpay for World B. Free.  World B. Free may have saved this franchise.   No....it was for the fact that he stripped the club of any future in return for a handful of magic beans....that were inert.

    Ok, it seems he had some interesting views on race too. 

  • @the-gipper said:

    He didn't overpay for World B. Free.  World B. Free may have saved this franchise.   No....it was for the fact that he stripped the club of any future in return for a handful of magic beans....that were inert.

    Ok, it seems he had some interesting views on race too. 

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    Ok, it seems he had some interesting views on race too. 

    You mean Stepian? Yea...I think he had a kind of plantation mentality.   Here was some of his handiwork:

    Stepien-Trades-Redo3.png?resize=1024,397