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  • T Tacosman

    @orion said:

    So they lost to Indy today and are currently around pick #9.

    Of course we have NO IDEA who will be doing the drafting.....perhaps Dee.

    it does seem like(especially with wentz playing so well) as the season goes on the vibe seems to be more and more pointing to the FO and HC getting the heave ho.....

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    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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    @tacosman said:

    it does seem like(especially with wentz playing so well) as the season goes on the vibe seems to be more and more pointing to the FO and HC getting the heave ho.....

    Anything could happen.

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      @tacosman said:

      it does seem like(especially with wentz playing so well) as the season goes on the vibe seems to be more and more pointing to the FO and HC getting the heave ho.....

      Anything could happen.

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      stillmotionS stillmotion wrote on last edited by
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      @orion said:

      Anything could happen.

      Sashi wouldn't trade down from #9 to get another first next year again, would he?

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        jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on last edited by
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        He probably would if the offer was right. It's our strategy. If we could get another 1st rounder the following year AND not drop back TOO far, it COULD be an OK move. But people like me don't want to trade down at all. I'm just tired of it. 

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        • OrionO Orion

          So they lost to Indy today and are currently around pick #9.

          Of course we have NO IDEA who will be doing the drafting.....perhaps Dee.

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          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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          @orion said:

          So they lost to Indy today and are currently around pick #9.

          Of course we have NO IDEA who will be doing the drafting.....perhaps Dee.

          As noted elsewhere....with today's standings they could pick as high as 5th or as low as 9th.

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            @orion said:

            Anything could happen.

            Sashi wouldn't trade down from #9 to get another first next year again, would he?

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            sydS syd wrote on last edited by
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            @stillmotion said:

            Sashi wouldn't trade down from #9 to get another first next year again, would he?

            probably pass on a qb with are first over all pick and trade back to 20 for someone who can't play

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              @orion said:

              Anything could happen.

              Sashi wouldn't trade down from #9 to get another first next year again, would he?

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              @stillmotion said:

              Sashi wouldn't trade down from #9 to get another first next year again, would he?

              Yes. It appears he wants 5 years worth of draft picks in 3 years.  That's the plan.  Doesn't matter where they are or who you get.

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                OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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                Tankathon has Houston (us) picking in the 8 spot now.

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                • OrionO Orion

                  So they lost to Indy today and are currently around pick #9.

                  Of course we have NO IDEA who will be doing the drafting.....perhaps Dee.

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                  Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                  @orion said:

                  Of course we have NO IDEA who will be doing the drafting.....perhaps Dee.

                  Must have a mouse in your pocket... cause I know.

                  @dutch-oven said:

                  I'll be absolutely fine if the Texans go 3-5 in the second half for a 6-10 record. I was hoping at best for them to finish around .500 and not make the playoffs, so 6-10 would be great.

                  3 wins looks like the upper bound to me. O is a Sheet show now and D while still good is hurting badly. Of their missing only Cushing is expected back.

                  So just when they need to reemphasize the run, something they can do behind Miller and Foreman, their D can't keep them in games to allow the to run.

                  @jiggins7919 said:

                  He probably would if the offer was right. It's our strategy. If we could get another 1st rounder the following year AND not drop back TOO far, it COULD be an OK move. But people like me don't want to trade down at all. I'm just tired of it. 

                  Agree... but it really depends on their player evaluations. If they see their guy, no one will be able to pry him away... just as no one could pry Luck out of Indy's hands.

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                    A Alkid3 wrote on last edited by
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                    Yeah best player available wither the second pick imo. Everyone is leaning receiver but idk about that.

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                      Yeah best player available wither the second pick imo. Everyone is leaning receiver but idk about that.

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                      Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                      @alkid3 said:

                      Yeah best player available wither the second pick imo. Everyone is leaning receiver but idk about that.

                      In a perfect world, I'd love a receiver to go with the QB taken with the first pick.

                      But don't force it. If there's someone else sitting there that is a superior talent, take him. There's holes all over the roster.

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                        @alkid3 said:

                        Yeah best player available wither the second pick imo. Everyone is leaning receiver but idk about that.

                        In a perfect world, I'd love a receiver to go with the QB taken with the first pick.

                        But don't force it. If there's someone else sitting there that is a superior talent, take him. There's holes all over the roster.

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                        T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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                        @dutch-oven said:

                        In a perfect world, I'd love a receiver to go with the QB taken with the first pick.

                        But don't force it. If there's someone else sitting there that is a superior talent, take him. There's holes all over the roster.

                        If we want a KO/PR/WR then take Kirk, but if we want a pure WR Ridley's the man IMO.

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                          Yeah best player available wither the second pick imo. Everyone is leaning receiver but idk about that.

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                          Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                          @alkid3 said:

                          Yeah best player available wither the second pick imo. Everyone is leaning receiver but idk about that. and

                          If we use our first 1st and the HOU 1st is a top ten pick, then I will not be surprised to see another twofer deal, as in a 2018 + 2019 1st-rounder, go down...

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                            @alkid3 said:

                            Yeah best player available wither the second pick imo. Everyone is leaning receiver but idk about that. and

                            If we use our first 1st and the HOU 1st is a top ten pick, then I will not be surprised to see another twofer deal, as in a 2018 + 2019 1st-rounder, go down...

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                            stillmotionS stillmotion wrote on last edited by
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                            @tour2ma said:

                            If we use our first 1st and the HOU 1st is a top ten pick, then I will not be surprised to see another twofer deal, as in a 2018 + 2019 1st-rounder, go down...

                            I wouldn't be surprised either if sashi traded down again.

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                              @tour2ma said:

                              If we use our first 1st and the HOU 1st is a top ten pick, then I will not be surprised to see another twofer deal, as in a 2018 + 2019 1st-rounder, go down...

                              I wouldn't be surprised either if sashi traded down again.

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                              NeroN Nero wrote on last edited by
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                              @stillmotion said:

                              I wouldn't be surprised either if sashi traded down again.

                              Well, if you already have drafted your QB, and there is a good offer for your pick while you don't get to lose the player in the top of your list... I'd trade down, even if that keeps fans desperate.

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                                T Tacosman wrote on last edited by
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                                One downside of Houston continuing to lose and look like crap on offense is that it just sort of reinforces how badly we messed up by not selecting watson

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                                  One downside of Houston continuing to lose and look like crap on offense is that it just sort of reinforces how badly we messed up by not selecting watson

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                                  NeroN Nero wrote on last edited by Nero
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                                  @tacosman said:

                                  One downside of Houston continuing to lose and look like crap on offense is that it just sort of reinforces how badly we messed up by not selecting watson

                                  Well, we can agree that he looked great on the field. But also, no one can guarantee that a player who has already had ankle* problems will not have more in the future. Judging if we did well or not drafting him by only 4 games it's quite hasty. If he gets injured every season I guess we won't miss him that much. 

                                  It's not the same as comparising passing on Wentz. 

                                  EDIT: knee

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                                    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                    Great... another order of hindsight in a soft taco...

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                                      @tacosman said:

                                      One downside of Houston continuing to lose and look like crap on offense is that it just sort of reinforces how badly we messed up by not selecting watson

                                      Well, we can agree that he looked great on the field. But also, no one can guarantee that a player who has already had ankle* problems will not have more in the future. Judging if we did well or not drafting him by only 4 games it's quite hasty. If he gets injured every season I guess we won't miss him that much. 

                                      It's not the same as comparising passing on Wentz. 

                                      EDIT: knee

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                                      T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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                                      @nero said:

                                      Well, we can agree that he looked great on the field. But also, no one can guarantee that a player who has already had ankle problems will not have more in the future. Judging if we did well or not drafting him by only 4 games it's quite hasty. If he gets injured every season I guess we won't miss him that much.

                                      Careful there Nero. You're now flirting with Garrett territory on the ankles thing.

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                                        @nero said:

                                        Well, we can agree that he looked great on the field. But also, no one can guarantee that a player who has already had ankle problems will not have more in the future. Judging if we did well or not drafting him by only 4 games it's quite hasty. If he gets injured every season I guess we won't miss him that much.

                                        Careful there Nero. You're now flirting with Garrett territory on the ankles thing.

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                                        @texasag1969 said:

                                        Careful there Nero. You're now flirting with Garrett territory on the ankles thing.

                                        Of course. Garrett showed some promise but if he keeps having ankle problems, he won't be a good draft choice. BUT, everyone would have chosen him, and you cannot guess that kind of things. Drafts can be evaluated after some years have passed, but I understand that meanwhile opinions can be throught out there too. 

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                                          jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on last edited by
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                                          Houston is going to get a freaking win this weekend and it's so annoying.  They're playing the Cardinals who obviously don't have Carson Palmer, and NOW it appears they won't have their backup either (Stanton).  I literally have no clue who will be playing QB for them, but suffice to say that they probably won't be winning a game in Houston this weekend.  I could be mistaken, but I doubt it.  Houston defense will show up and I'd be completely surprised if the Texans don't win like 16-3 in a total snooze-fest.  

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